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Category:Peak uranium
- Category:Peak uranium - Template:Lc1
- Nominator's rationale: Delete. This small two article category with limited prospects for expansion. In fact there is a current suggestion to merge the two articles contained here. Articles have ample parent categories already. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:45, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
- Merge to Category:Peak fuels, as proposed for Category:Peak coal, below. Even assuming both of the articles currently in it are retained, that's still not enough to justify a category. Cgingold (talk) 10:48, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Uranium is being mined and used primarily as a fuel for reactors and so can be accommodated here quite nicely, I think. I've read some alarmist articles suggesting the world is headed towards peaks in a wide range of other elements. If that's the case and we get a Peak metals category in the future, we can reexamine it then, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 22:07, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
Category:Peak coal
- Category:Peak coal - Template:Lc1
- Nominator's rationale: Delete and up merge Peak coal to Category:Peak fuels. Looks like another OCAT category. I think only one of the members here even belongs in the category. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:35, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. I just proposed merging the stub article Coal depletion into Peak coal, so there's even less reason to keep this category. Cgingold (talk) 10:45, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
Highland constituencies, UK Parliament
- Propose merging
- Category:Highland constituencies, UK Parliament, 1975 to 1983 to Category:Highland constituencies, UK Parliament (historic)
- Category:Highland constituencies, UK Parliament, 1983 to 1997 to Category:Highland constituencies, UK Parliament (historic)
- Category:Highland constituencies, UK Parliament, 1997 to 2005 to Category:Highland constituencies, UK Parliament (historic)
- Category:Highland constituencies, UK Parliament, current to Category:Highland constituencies, UK Parliament
- Nominator's rationale: Merge per WP:OC#SMALL. These for categories contain them only 14 articles, and they are fully populated. It will be quite sufficient to merge them all to the parent Category:Highland constituencies, UK Parliament.
The convention of Category:United Kingdom Parliamentary constituencies is to divide the regional sub-categories into current and historic constituencies, but no other area is sub-divided by more fine-grained chronological groupings. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:04, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support in principle but the target for the first three should be Category:Highland constituencies, UK Parliament (historic), in repect of any constituencies abolished on reorganisation. Categories for the counties that preceded the creation of prestn Scottish Local Government structure shoukld be made subcats of this. This is similar to the way in which obsolete constituencies are categorised in England. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:36, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
- Merge target amended for the first three, as suggested, per English categ structure. There are no similar categories for the previous counties in the Scottish Highlands. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:37, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
The abolition of Scottish local government counties in 1975 does make things tricky (but constituencies created in 1975 were based on county boundaries, in a review prior to 1975)
(Also, there was another break in 1996, when some regions were abolished in favour of smaller unitary areas)
Seems to me now, ideally, constituencies created before1983 would not be linked to regional names
Laurel Bush (talk)
Category:Russia-centric
- Category:Russia-centric - Template:Lc1
- Nominator's rationale: Delete.. Not likely to get populated. Has very low traffic at present. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 22:17, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
- Weak Keep I can see this being populated, with Warsaw-block and USSR related articles, what with Russian-language biases, historically biased views based on Cold War outlooks, etc. 76.66.195.196 (talk) 05:03, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep -- Petri Krohn (talk) 01:36, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
Category:Ethiopia-centric
- Category:Ethiopia-centric - Template:Lc1
- Nominator's rationale: Delete.. Not likely to get populated. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 22:16, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
- One of the maintenance templates generated this as a red link. The category will still work without being created, of course. - Gyrofrog (talk) 14:33, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
Category:Eritrea-centric
- Category:Eritrea-centric - Template:Lc1
- Nominator's rationale: Delete.. Not likely to get populated. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 22:15, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
- Delete: which article will use this category other than what is already in a "Eritrea" category?
- See 'Ethiopia-centric' above. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 14:34, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
- Delete: which article will use this category other than what is already in a "Eritrea" category?
Category:Contingencies funds
- Category:Contingencies funds - Template:Lc1
- Nominator's rationale: Delete. After removing a few articles that simply mentioned a contingency fund, this seems to meet the requirement for OCAT. In the whole, I'm not convinced that we are going to find many articles specifically on contingency funds. If kept, rename to Category:Contingency funds. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:16, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
Category:Rykodisc Records artists
- Propose renaming Category:Rykodisc Records artists to Category:Rykodisc artists
- Nominator's rationale: per Rykodisc/Rykodisc Records. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:16, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
- Rename, as per nom. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 17:46, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
Category:Range-extended vehicles
- Category:Range-extended vehicles - Template:Lc1
- Nominator's rationale: Delete. The main article was proposed for merging to the main hybrid article. After look at the unreferenced article, I redirected it to the main one which actually has references in the appropriate section. This leaves us with two entries probably better classified in the main hybrid vehicle categories. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:50, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:05, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
Category:iCalendar
- Category:iCalendar - Template:Lc1
- Nominator's rationale: Delete. The iCalendar article on this file format provides adequate navigation to the products that support this format. If kept, it should be renamed. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:40, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
- Delete Another example of Nopetro using categories as a kind of 'what links here' function. The parent article states that "iCalendar is used and supported by a large number of products, including Google Calendar and partially also by Microsoft Outlook." I don't believe this makes it a defining characteristic of Google Calendar and I'm sure it's not defining for Microsoft Outlook, of all things. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:09, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
Category:Autostereoscopy
- Category:Autostereoscopy - Template:Lc1
- Nominator's rationale: Delete. After removing an entry that simply used the word Autostereoscopy in the text, we have a single entry category. In the future, this category may well be useful, but that is not today. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:35, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, until such time as we have sufficient articles, if ever. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:11, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
Category:Mortgage-related securities
Category:Image-Class articles
- Propose merging Category:Image-Class articles to Category:File-Class articles
- Nominator's rationale: The Image: namespace was renamed to File: more than a year ago, and it is only natural that this namespace-based assessment be updated (also, these categories may contain multiple types of media and are not limited to images only, so 'File-Class' is more encompassing and more accurate). If there is consensus in this discussion to merge, then I will write a follow-up speedy renaming nomination for the 712 subcategories. -- Black Falcon (talk) 21:40, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- Comment shouldn't File class be split into Image, Sound, Video, etc? (Perhaps this should be a proposal at Village Pump / WikiProject Council ... for additional classes) 76.66.193.224 (talk) 05:07, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
- Discussion of that idea at a more general venue might be useful, but I don't think there is a need for such splitting (at least in the context of general project assessments). A WikiProject dedicated to improving, finding, or creating images, sounds and/or videos may find it useful to tag only certain types of files, but I don't think general projects would have a need to do this. -- Black Falcon (talk) 07:03, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
- Comment. I should point out my nomination of this same category in the past. — ξxplicit 01:02, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for linking to the previous discussion. It seems that there was general support for the nomination, but moderated by three concerns: unforseen factors (BrownHairedGirl); flexibility for WikiProjects (Martin, Optigan13); and proper follow-through (Happy-melon, Martin, Optigan13). I think it would be worthwhile (for the benefit of the closer and anyone else who participates) to re-address each concern in light of the discussion at the previous CfD:
- To the best of my knowledge, the Image-Class categories are not functionally different than the File-Class categories (there may or may not be one or two exceptions). The comments in the 23 February discussion appear to reinforce this belief, as does the lack of objections at the discussion which you initiated at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council.
- Any WikiProject which wishes to separate categorization of images and other files can do so by one of several means: creating Image-Class as a subcategory of File-Class; using unique sort keys for certain types of files so that they are grouped together at the beginning or end of a general category for files; or creating specialized, project-specific categories such as Category:WikiProject Foo sounds or Category:Foo audio files.
- If there is consensus to change Image-Class to File-Class, I think proper follow-through will involve three steps: speedy renaming the subcategories (Cydebot will create the categories and a change to {{WPBannerMeta}} will take care of the rest); updating incoming links to avoid disruption to WikiProjects; and handling any exceptions that come to light. I am prepared to implement each step; as you did, I nominated only the parent category so that I wouldn't needlessly tag 700+ categories only to discover that there is no consensus for the change. -- Black Falcon (talk) 06:43, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
- Rename per nom and the previous discussion. Vegaswikian (talk) 01:10, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~~~~
Category:Soundtrack compilations
- Propose renaming Category:Soundtrack compilations to Category:Soundtrack compilation albums
- Nominator's rationale: Per parent category, Category:Compilation albums —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:46, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. The problem with the suggested name is that this category is for compilations of soundtrack music but there are also compilations of pre-existing music used for soundtracks, so it is important that the name reflects this difference. The suggested name would include both these types so is not suitable for this category. Cjc13 (talk) 12:53, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
Category:Thiomorpholines
- Propose merging Category:Thiomorpholines to all parents
- Nominator's rationale: Merge. Small categroy at this time with one entry besides the main article. Recreate if needed in the future. Vegaswikian (talk) 17:31, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
Category:Thioethers
Category:Albums from Northern Ireland
Category:Companies of the United States Marine Corps
- Category:Companies of the United States Marine Corps - Template:Lc1
- Nominator's rationale: Delete. The overwhelming majority of military units of the United States Marine Corps in Wikipedia are listed at the battalion level & above. FieldMarine (talk) 11:36, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep as this would leave its subcat Category:Reconnaissance companies of the United States Marine Corps deficient in parents. There is also Category:Company sized units of the United States which has other material. The category is not tagged. Occuli (talk) 13:35, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
- Comment the above mentioned subcat is recommended for deletion based on its limited scope (see below discussion). There are better parent categories for the few articles in the subcat. FieldMarine (talk) 15:10, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep per section below. Sadads (talk) 20:11, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
- Also, this category is already populated with ten articles, doesn't make sense to get rid of it. Sadads (talk) 21:59, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
Category:Reconnaissance companies of the United States Marine Corps
- Category:Reconnaissance companies of the United States Marine Corps - Template:Lc1
- Nominator’s rational: Delete. There are only a total of five Force Recon Companies in the United States Marine Corps & I doubt this category will grow. Better category would be the upper level Category:United States Marine Corps Force Reconnaissance. FieldMarine (talk) 11:31, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
- Comment I agree with Occuli, this nomimation should be for upmerge to Category:United States Marine Corps Force Reconnaissance, instead of delete. FieldMarine (talk) 21:53, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
- Comment the nom needs to be an upmerge to various things, not a 'delete'. The category is not tagged. Besides, to categorise 1st Force Reconnaissance Company under Category:Reconnaissance companies of the United States Marine Corps seems intuitively correct. Occuli (talk) 13:37, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep five is enough population to keep it and it allows the hierarchy from Category:Company sized units of the United States, (See tree below) Category:Military units and formations of the United States Marine Corps by size and Category:United States Marine Corps Force Reconnaissance without a whole lot of extra categories at the bottom of each page. I have been doing this on the Army Hierarchy as well and it has been pretty successful, allowing me to classify units by size and type and link up to the higher hierarchies in Category:Military units and formations of the United States with a singular category instead of 2, 3 or more. (see second and third tree)- this effects mostly the by size and by type categories. The logic is more focused on the Military Units and formations logic, not the other categories. Sadads (talk) 19:46, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
- Comment As mentioned in discussion above, articles in Wikipedia on specific units of the United States Marine Corps are at the battalion level or higher, except for rare cases like the five force recon companies. Thus, it is unlikely that this category will be populated. FieldMarine (talk) 21:39, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
- Whether or not we anticipate growth immediately, its important that the company sized units of the Marine corps are accessible from the Company sized units of the United States category. And if we can further refine the company sized units into their funciton, that makes less categories on pages themselves. Upmerging doubles or triples the number of categories on each page, if their is a sizable group of articles which have multiple of the same categories new categories which combine the traits is appropriate. Sadads (talk) 21:55, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
Category:Cobalt sulfide
Category:Geothermal pumps
Category:Historical revisionism (political)
- Propose renaming Category:Historical revisionism (political) to Category:Historical revisionism (negationism)
- Nominator's rationale: to match name of main article. Prezbo (talk) 04:22, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
- comment. Contents need a cleanup: Japanese war crimes or The Protocols of the Elders of Zion or Category:Priory of Sion hoax don't belong here at all. Mein Kampf is a far but possible stretch as political but it's not negationism. BTW, what's wrong with "denial" that caused this awkward "negationism"? East of Borschov (talk) 07:56, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — ξxplicit 05:51, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
- rename per nom to match main article. Common vocabulary can be expanded to encompass negationism. Hmains (talk) 19:31, 3 July 2010 (UTC)