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Is the picture...relevant? The caption reads 'A fractal pattern, similar in some respects to what may be seen during a psychedelic experience' but without being an expert in psychiatry, it strikes me that pretty much anything 'may be seen during a psychedelic experience' 163.1.209.71 (talk) 15:23, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you, this picture seems to be totally useless. Why don't put a picture of a pink elephant instead? Some folks see pink elephants when high on drugs. Bah! Remove the picture. --Δ Mr. Nighttime Δ (talk) 14:33, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My name is JP. I apologize beforehand if I do not follow the accepted protocol for expressing my opinion about this page. I think that talkheader has a valid point: if we want to put a picture with the caption "A fractal pattern, similar in some respects to what may be seen during a psychedelic experience" we should probably probably be able to cite a source which backs up our claims... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.111.239.250 (talk) 09:02, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would agree that both kaleidoscopic and fractal patterns are a stereotypical visual effect of "psychedelic" drugs. While not everyone experiences this, and those who do may not always (or even often) experience them, there is scientific evidence to support that this patterning is innate to how both the optical nerve system and visual cortex function. Whether or not this system becomes over-stimulated, the brain itself becomes flooded with visual information, or a little of both is uncertain. --Thoric (talk) 21:55, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

stereotypical: yes! --Δ Mr. Nighttime Δ (talk) 14:33, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Salvia

Salvia is a dissociative as mentioned in its own page and in the main psychedelics, dissociatives and deliriants page. It should not really be on the psychedelics page as this just adds to the popular misconception that it is a psychedelic as opposed to a dissociative. Maybe it could be replaced with a section on how high dose dissociatives often produce similar effects to psychedelics and so can be confused, an interesting example being Salvia whose active ingredient Salvinorin A is so potent that these effects are often noticed even with a small dose. Any thoughts? -Matt

Agreed. I didn't notice that someone added salvia here when it is already on the dissociative drug page. --Thoric (talk) 21:44, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]