Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Big Five (orchestras)

Big Five (orchestras)

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Lacking proper citaions, speculative

I have nominated this article for deletions for the following reasons: It is lacking inline citations; Portions of the article, notably the Modern Use section, appear to be original research; The article has been tagged with requests for citation for several months with no action taken.THD3 (talk) 12:50, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with THD3. In addition to his reasons, this has really become an outdated concept. MUSIKVEREIN (talk) 13:36, 16 July 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Keep: An article which needs improvement is not a valid reason for deletion. The concept is notable and was well used. Even if outdated, it remains notable. (See, e.g., Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Black Ivy League).--Milowent • ^talkblp-r 19:17, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I can find multiple sources that confirm that five specific orchestras, Boston, Chicago, Cleveland, New York, and Philadelphia, are known as the "big five" orchestras. While the article needs better citations, it does provide some names of authors, publications, and years for other sources for which it seems likely that the full citations will be locatable. Even if these five orchestras can no longer be considered to be the five best or most important ones in the U.S., the term is still used in reference to those particular five, even if sometimes preceded by the words "so-called". --Metropolitan90 (talk) 23:58, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:44, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. A long-established term that merits coverage even if it is now outdated. --Deskford (talk) 17:19, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]