Talk:Nile crocodile
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A fact from Nile crocodile appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 18 December 2004. The text of the entry was as follows:
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Bite Force
The part about the 3000 psi to 5000 psi bite is blatently false. And you know why? Because bite force is not measured in PSI, PSI is a measure of PRESSURE. Pressure increases as an object gets smaller with the same amount of weight behind it, Pressure has to do with area thus. FORCE has nothing to do with area. That episode of Dangerous Encounters you can clearly hear Brady Barr relate the bite results in pounds of force. NOT PSI. So the 3000 psi and 5000 psi figures should be changed to 3000 lbs of force and 5000 lbs of force. Thank you. Regards. DinoJones (talk) 22:39, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- As I'm not familiar with the work of Brady Barr, so I can't comment on how he recorded bite forces. Needless to say that it should have been in the SI units newtons (which would have avoided this issue). User:DinoJones, can you provide a reference for the bite force information (values plus units)? Cheers Mark t young (talk) 23:01, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- Do you mean like a screen cap of the bite force values given in that particular episode of Brady Barr's show? I'll do my best if that's what you meant.DinoJones (talk) 06:40, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Range Map
There's a nice range map over at Wikimedia Commons [1]. Anyone want to be nice and swipe it? :) 68.81.231.127 14:28, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- I can link directly. 68.81.231.127 11:36, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Krokodeilopolis
Given the etymology of crocodile, "pebble man/worm," I conjecture that the Greek city name sould be Krokodeilopolis, rather than Krokodopolis, because the man/worm morpheme of the latter seems overly syncopated.
- That would be good to correct, but any references? 68.84.34.154 22:07, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
Article removed from Wikipedia:Good articles
This article was formerly listed as a good article, but was removed from the listing because there aren't any references. Otherwise it's great. Worldtraveller 23:22, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
- I used entirely on-line sources when I wrote the article. Since I have a bit of a bias against that, I labeled the section external links. But looking it over again, the sources aren't too bad -- while it could certainly use some print sources and footnoting (now that we have the new tags), and the mythological sources are at best weak, the technical information on the Nile crocodile is from reasonably strong secondary sources. 68.84.34.154 22:07, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
Pictures of crocodiles
I would like to add my page on crocodiles to your external links please: http://www.african-safari-pictures.com/crocodile-pictures.html 198.54.202.82 15:02, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Editing
Some slight clean-up and rephrasing of Introduction to remove redundancies. CFLeon 22:47, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
"No animal is safe, even big cats
For some reason, someone continues to add this sentence when it makes no sense in the context of the article. The preceeding sentence states that elephants and adult hippos are "safe" from crocodiles so it is erroneous and contradictory. Furthermore, lions are listed among the animals in the next sentence so the big cat reference is not necessary. This sentence should remain deleted from the page as it is redundant, contradictory, and overall not useful. 71.248.25.226 00:58, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
- Maybe you are right. Wording can be changed. 85.97.11.49 14:41, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Crocs and Birds
The Egyptian Plover and Spur-winged Plover are both claimed to clean crocodile teeth. A photograph of this behaviour would be useful. Drutt 14:12, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
"Egyption Butts"
Any reason this section constantly references "butt" or "butts"? Looks like vandalism, but on the off-chance there's some meaning of "butt" I don't know, I'll merely present it for discussion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.144.64.204 (talk) 18:09, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- It was vandalized a short while ago. Fixed. Collectonian 18:38, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Maximum size
Due to wikipedia as a source the largest confirmed Nile Crocodile (6.45 m.) is longer than the largest confirmed Saltwater Crocodile wich was hardly longer than 6.3 m. --Draco ignoramus sophomoricus (talk) 21:20, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- "Due to Wikipedia as source"? What does that mean? The source listed in the article is this: "Wood, The Guinness Book of Animal Facts and Feats. Sterling Pub Co Inc (1983), ISBN 978-0851122359 ". Funkynusayri (talk) 21:34, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- It would be good to document what evidence Guinness based this on as it is pretty controversial - with the Salty being the generally accepted as the larger species - if the largest confirmed specimen does belong to the Nile then this is worth outlining. The Salty article does seem a lot more conservative about claims of size than this article is - for example Gustav being reported as 20-30' long - which is a huge range of possibilities - mentioning that he has been reported as being up to more than 9 metres long without comment on how likely this is may be a bit misleading. Djambalawa
- Mokele were is the source for this 21 foot nile crocodile?
- In the text, you idiot. Mokele (talk) 21:42, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Removal of following section
"However, adults also have enemies. Rock pythons, hippos, lions and leopards, and rhinos occassionally prey on adult nile crocodiles. The adult nile crocodile's biggest enemie is the rock python. The rock python coils around the crocodile and kills it, than swallows it whole. " I find this highly suspect and removed due to lack of references. First off, rock pythons can take young crocs but I can't imagine it's even physically possible that an adult nile crocodile could be eaten by a python. Leopards are way too small to threaten an adult crocodile, and I've never even heard of an interaction between this water-avoiding cat and water-loving reptile. Hippos and rhinos are herbivores, although hippos may kill crocs out of aggression. Adult crocodiles may be preyed on by lions.
The King of Africa's Killers
The Nile crocodile is such a monstrous and aggressive creature that they have been known to attack adult elephants but not in the way you would think. They will wait for an elephant to come drink then lunge out and bite the trunk and the bite is so powerful that it can break the trunk and this can end up killing or making life harder for the elephant since the trunk is the primary part of an elephant's body that it uses for getting food and water. Now a Nile crocodile 21 feet long weighing 2,400 pounds will slaughter lions, leopards,young or even occasionally teenage or sometimes adult hippos. If a Giraffe came to the water to drink it could probably break it's neck with it's bite. The only threat to a 21 foot 2,400 pound behemoth is a hunter with a big rifle or machine gun. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.83.100.52 (talk) 01:59, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
Diet
Ok, here is the general idea. I compiled information scattered around in the whole section into two solid paragraphs of good sourced material with only minor rechecks of previous versions. If you look at 2008 edits, mentions such as separate hunting habitats have been partially removed, whereas this is the key idea here.
Two subsequent paragraphs contain unsourced text and blah about how they hunt. Unless this was written by residents of Kenya, we actually need proof. People see it as unproductive edits because the rest is just bias, so maybe elaborate there. But ummm can we please NOT have undos a/p one person trying to improve the whole article without reaching consensus meeting with same person from the other side? If you don't like what I did, discuss it here BEFORE reverting, and not vice versa, because maybe others will come and improve it.
Or give it at the very least 24 hours. I'd really appreciate that. Shadiac (talk) 05:46, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Carnivore?
Shouldn't it be said SOMEWHERE in the article that this animal is a carnivore?--Michaelphillipr (talk) 12:20, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
- You mean aside from the fact that there's an entire section on its diet, detailing on the animals it eats? Mokele (talk) 13:54, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
what i have heard
i heard on tv maybe a few years ago that the nile crocodile is nearly extinct. what i heard is that there wasnt enough of them left for the species to survive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.75.209 (talk) 20:15, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
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