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Copyright

Removed possible copyright infringement. Text that was previously posted here is the same as text from this webpage: http://www.planet-dust.net/history.htm

To the poster: If there was permission to use this material under terms of our license or if you are the copyright holder of the externally linked text, then please indicate so on this talk page.

See two paragraphs below... -mrbartjens 18:28, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That doesn't document anything. Douglasr007 04:08, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced statements

The whole article contains only one source, which I have just added. A lot of the information in the article I could not find anywhere else except on pages copying this wikipedia article. Please add sources! The current situation is quite unacceptable for an article such as this one -mrbartjens 08:44, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright holder of Chemical Brothers history text

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Miuzi

The spelling of the PE track is actually "Miuzi..." and not "My Uzi...". Check the album "Yo! Bum Rush the Show". wathiik.

Ariel

I see that "sea of beats" is attributed to Ariel. I think that it was actually released under the name A-Tom and was just Tom Rowlands.

Fight Club Soundtrack

Did the Chemical Brothers actually produce the Fight Club Soundtrack? I must say I am rather confused. Both the Fight Club and Dust Brothers wikipedia articles say the Dust Brothers wrote it, but the opening credits of Fight Club says "Music by the Chemical Brothers"

Nope, the opening credits say "music by the Dust Brothers." TheEXIT 14:29, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Flip the Switch" removed from discography...

I decided to remove "Flip the Switch" from the discography. "Flip the Switch" is a fan project and has no affiliation with The Chemical Brothers (http://www.chemicalbrothersremixed.com/main.html). By all means it can be referred to within the article, but a discography should reflect official releases from the artists themselves. I hope this justifies its removal!

Backwards???

Who put that if you play Push the Button backwards the beats correspond to Come With Us? That sounds pretty bogus, dude, I've listend to both albums extensively and that can't be true. - Nathan Greenhalgh I deleted it because it's not sourced to anything, which is Wikipedia's policy blahblah... and it's just bizarre, the beats don't line up at all. If anyone knows otherwise, please post and explain why. - Nathan Greenhalgh 5/29/07

Anti-Nazi Mix?

Wasn't the Anti-Nazi Mix release a precursor to Brother's Gonna Work It Out? I know it was a promo-only release, but I'm surprised that there is no mention of it in the entry for the band.

I'm surprised too. I think Brother's Gonna Work It Out basically deleted the Sgt. Pepper's remix because of copyright issues. But Anti-Nazi mix was the bomb, and it a lot of people got into the Chems before this commercial release occurred.

It was. It needs some mentioning in the article (if there isn't any). It was a great mix, as mentioned above. T-95 (talk) 21:56, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What does this mean?

He left school with 11 O levels and 3 A-levels

Can someone explain to me what does "O level" mean? Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Not everyone is familiar with British education system you know. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.137.123.226 (talk) 19:01, 28 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Pardon me for stating the obvious, but you are on Wikipedia. General Certificate of Education is what you've been looking for all along. RTFW. :] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TheEXIT (talk • contribs) 14:33, 9 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Bias?

This article (especially the part concerning their newer works) seems kind of biased to me.. using words like "genius piece" and such. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 154.20.223.116 (talk) 00:49, 29 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Cleanup

This article has always needed cleanup. There seems to be a lot of information and at places it seems there's too much information about a specific section. Perhaps some of the stuff that is mentioned after the recording of the albums needs to be moved to the respective album. There seems to be a lot of subsections that don't need to be made and a lot of formatting help. I'll try to help edit the page later this week if I have a chance but a lot of work needs to be done. Douglasr007 21:31, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think someone should add simple info about how many #1 chart simgles they have had (i'd rather leave it to a veteran editor than do it my self.) Please include U.S. AND U.K. charts. Smudger94 (talk) 20:29, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:PushtheButton.albumcover.jpg

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External links

I did a major cleanup and removed most external links, except for the official site and a few fansites that do contain extensive and useful info. Some links seemed to be references rather than just links (lots of reviews), but this is quite hard to check of course. -mrbartjens 15:15, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

More info required and POV

At the same Turnmills gig, the Brothers also played a previously un-released song at midnight to welcome 2007 which went down well with the crowd

Not only is a citation needed as mentioned in the main article but more info would be nice on the name of the track played.

Many are left wondering if the latest in the Electronic Battle Weapon series were simply one off genius pieces or signal a new direction they could take with the new album, perhaps swaying from their genre defining 'big beat' psychedelic albums of the past.

I believe this is the authors POV as I think if anything the new album takes the Chems back to their roots after recent albums like Push the Button and Come with Us. -- RND T C 10:43, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The whole article is rubbish right now frankly, with tons of unsourced claims. I'm waiting for some biographical material about the Brothers I have bought, when I get those I'll hopefully get around to cleaning up the article. -mrbartjens 13:58, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

cool, thanks for the update. --

RND T C 15:59, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Which is Which?

One thing this article doesn't say is which one is Tom and which one is Ed. Can anyone shed some light? Technohead1980 (talk) 14:10, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Photo in the "Live" Section

The photo in the "Live" section is terrible. It's a blurry mess of color, and you can't make out that there are people in it at all, much less the Chemical Brothers. Does anybody have a higher quality or generally better image that would illustrate the live performances of the Chemical Brothers? If not, I say the image gets deleted. -Lamarcus (talk) 09:16, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This photo is pathetic and is nothing short of a joke. I suggest it is removed.Reqluce (talk) 20:19, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I uploaded new image:

Ed is on the left and Tom on the right. T-95 (talk) 23:46, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

signed vinyls?

I didn't see anything related to this in the article.

I just got the We Are The Night 2 disc vinyl and in the middle of each disc is a phrase scribbled in with a number, for example:

Side C: ASW94158C Anyone for jerk chicken? Side D: AWW94158D Dogs on Gunpowder

Anyone have anything to compare this to? Thank you.

12.164.197.10 (talk) 22:37, 29 March 2008 (UTC)S[reply]

What happened?

When did the article become so small? What happened to the history part? Who edited all of that? That was a ridiculous decision.

-Nathan Greenhalgh —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.105.149.111 (talk) 05:12, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, this is much better. Thanks to whoever took care of it. 6/5/08 The Chemical Brothers are an important enough group to deserve a history section. I mean, if a group like Motley Crue can get that, so should the Chems.

-Nathan Greenhalgh —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.211.119.60 (talk) 21:23, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Electronic Battle Weapon series

Right now there are ten short articles that have little scope for expansion. I propose that it would be better if they were all merged into a new article, something like Electronic Battle Weapon, and create a comprehensive article that doesn't require clicking into different pages. ~ ► Wykebjs ◄ (userpage | talk) 14:39, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

- If no one objects, i suggest you go and merge. 82.46.235.71 (talk) 14:37, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

- I concur, there's no point in having a stub article for each of these releases; the content of each of them is largely cut&paste in similarity. Have each of the original names point to the new combined article; further additions to the series can undergo the same treatment. MRuss (talk) 19:44, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Strong agree, per comments above. --Soetermans | is listening | what he'd do now? 09:06, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

-merge it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.105.96.186 (talk) 09:22, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

- Go ahead! It'll really help, and it'll save time! --66richardson | is listening —Preceding undated comment added 11:42, 29 November 2009 (UTC).[reply]

Please could anyone convert these quotes to reliable references?

Ariel symbolically ended when deConstruction asked us for a Dust Brothers remix of an Ariel track. That was the final nail in the coffin.
— Ed Simons

One of the blokes went a bit mad, but now he's back at college, and the other one drives our van
— Tom Rowlands on Ariel, in 1995

Minima c (talk) 08:07, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures for 'Midnight Madness'

Does anybody know how to upload a single cover? I want one for Midnight Madness.

--213.83.125.225 (talk) 08:28, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of Chemical Brothers songs. PLEASE ANSWER :-D

I really want there to be an article of 'List of Chemical Brothers songs'. Muse have one, Radiohead have one, Queen have one etc. etc. the list goes on. As i don't have an account i can't do it myself and even if i get an account it would be a disaster trying to make one. So can anyone else start one. There are three different types of song lists. I think it should be like the Radiohead one, which lists the songs in chronological order. the Queen one llists songs in alphabetical order and the Muse one listts them by album, single, B-Side, etc. etc. --213.83.125.225 (talk) 08:58, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

C Class deserving? (wikiproject electronic music)

I have read the category in the wikiproject electronic music and it has been given a start class grade. I beleive that it should be upgraded to the C Class grade but I do not know how to nominate it for C Class. Any help would be appreciated. Yousou (talk) 18:20, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]