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July 31

Article not visible for edit : Syed_Mohammad_Inaamullah

I tried to view and contribute to the aforementioned article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syed_Mohammad_Inaamullah but its not there anymore. Can any Admin help me?--Sonaris (talk) 22:20, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

The article is there for me. It was created in 2005 and has never been deleted. What happens when you click the link? Try to bypass your cache. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:29, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

It seems that all references to the name 'Mohammad' are being filtered in Pakistan. I have checked other pages which bear or include this name as they work when using proxies. Would it be possible for any Administrator to rename the said article to S. M. Inaamullah or Syed M. Inaamullah? I will take care of the rest. --Sonaris (talk) 00:45, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

That sounds like an odd type of censorship. Maybe they are afraid of images of Muhammad in uncensored Wikipedia articles. Does it include for example Muhammad Ali with 'u'? Do you have evidence that it's the same for others in Pakistan and not something local to your computer or Internet connection? I'm not sure we should be choosing article titles based on censorship in specific countries. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:01, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Based on your suggestion, I will investigate this further and come back to you. Thank you for your interest and swift response.--Sonaris (talk) 20:51, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar use: policy

Resolved

 – Kayau Voting IS evil 02:48, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Question: Could someone please give me a link to a page where barnstar policy is discussed and/or suggested?
Reason: I occasionally come across cases where, for example, vandals award other vandals barnstars for their disruptive editing.
Thanks. --Kudpung (talk) 01:50, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

There is no policy - barnstars are part of Wikipedia culture. See WP:WPWPA. (And, just to show off, I made that shortcut. :P) Kayau Voting IS evil 02:01, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

(e/c) I believe that the barnstar page has deliberately been kept generic enough to keep up the "spontaneity" of awarding barnstars; in other words, to ensure that editors won't be afraid they will be breaking some sort of guideline by awarding a barnstar, there is no guideline in the first place. Essentially, the only thing the page says is "If you are sure the barnstar is appropriate, don't be shy!". Conversely, then, you can't really reprimand someone for awarding a barnstar unless it's clearly inappropriate or disruptive, as the case may be here. Because I'm not one to stick my nose where it doesn't belong, I would not worry about the frivoulous barnstar until the vandal is blocked -- and maybe not even after that -- because I believe that doing so would give the vandal further cause to vandalize pages (for example) in my userspace. Xenon54 (talk) 02:04, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Really, I don't think anyone should care about vandals giving each other barnstars. Those are probably socks, anyway, or meatpuppets etc., and might know each other in real life. So, there's really nothing special about it to care about. :) Kayau Voting IS evil 02:11, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Good thoughts. --Extra 999 (Contact ^me + _contribs) 02:13, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. As I understand it then , there is no page that discusses or provides any policy or guidelines regarding the misuse of barnstars.
Query answered.--Kudpung (talk) 02:25, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Strictly speaking, all you know is that none of the responders (and presumably, none of the many silent watchers of this Help desk) know of such a page. That isn't quite the same thing as being certain no such page exists, but at least we know any such page would have to be unusually obscure if it does exist. In theory, all the documentation about barnstars should be linked from the Editor's index (WP:EIW#Award), but even that depends on whether the editors of the index managed to catch everything. In general, it is easier to know that something exists than to know that something does not exist. You only need to find one example to prove something exists, but to prove it does not exist you would have to look at everything. See Russell's teapot. This may seem like hairsplitting, but Wikipedia is enormous with many nooks and crannies to hide odd bits. The surprises never seem to end. --Teratornis (talk) 04:24, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Strictly speaking, a policy or guideline no one can find does not exist. Wikipedia is built on a consensus model, and all of its policies and guidelines exist solely because the community at large endorses their use and maintenance. If there was some hypothetical guideline page which exists, but which several long-time, highly active editors such as ourselves has never heard of and can not find after serious active searching; it does not exist. Wikipedia is not a legal system, and arcane rules which no one follows and no one knows exists do not have the force of anything. Written guideline and policy pages reflect existing practices, they do not establish them. The guidelines and policies follow from best practices, they never get in the way of best practices. See WP:IAR. --Jayron32 01:04, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

The original question asks for "a page where barnstar policy is discussed and/or suggested". Someone could have discussed or suggested this in lots of places that might be unknown to the people who happen to be reading this Help desk question - including other wikis, mailing lists, user talk pages, etc. Then again, I'm not sure what the value of a policy suggestion would be, if it didn't actually influence policy. As far as concluding that if we don't know about something, it doesn't exist, I'd have to go with Chad Ochocinco's disclaimer: we're reliable, like birth control. --Teratornis (talk) 07:23, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Cropping

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 – Kayau Voting IS evil 02:48, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Can anybody crop it more: --Extra 999 (Contact ^me + _contribs) 02:10, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

 Done. Kayau Voting IS evil 02:16, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

In the future, WP:GL can do it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mono (talk • contribs)

Thanks. --Extra 999 (Contact ^me + _contribs) 04:26, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Reference

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 – Kayau Voting IS evil 10:12, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

I need help with refernce on my page im working on,Koji Gyotoku. How do you add information for the bareurls? Spongie555 (talk) 05:59, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Nvm it was resolved Spongie555 (talk) 07:19, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia on Facebook

How do you make a wikipedia article appear on facebook as a fan page? I have seen many pages on facebook that have a wikipedia tab and say powered by wiki and it has all the same information on facebook as on the wikipedia article and you can like the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WestCoast31 (talk • contribs) 06:48, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

That's a question you should ask at Facebook, not Wikipedia. By the way, this site is called Wikipedia, not wiki. A wiki is any website using wiki software; there are thousands of them. Kayau Voting IS evil 08:37, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Searching the Facebook help pages for Wikipedia finds some results that mention "Community Pages". To the extent that I have looked at the help on Facebook, I find it far inferior to Wikipedia's help. And ordinary Facebook users cannot improve the Facebook help by editing it. Incidentally, Facebook should in my opinion not limit its community pages to content from Wikipedia, since Wikipedia deletes most useful content of purely local interest. Facebook should also draw content from City wikis which cover local content in much more depth than Wikipedia. Many if not most people have local interests that do not meet Wikipedia's notability requirements. --Teratornis (talk) 19:02, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Updating references

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 – Kayau Voting IS evil 10:13, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

There's a page that has some wrong information. I want to correct it and delete the old reference/cite or whatever they're called, which links to a missing web page now anyway, and put two new references. Yet I can't figure out how to do this without red text appearing at the bottom of the article saying that I've broken the refs or something. I gave up reading the manual, I can't make head nor tails of it. Could somebody tell me simply and clearly so an idiot can understand, how I can do this? -OOPSIE- (talk) 08:43, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

WP:Referencing for beginners. Kayau Voting IS evil 08:48, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Visual inline citation guide

Formatting references using inline citations

All information in Wikipedia articles should be verified by citations to reliable sources. Our preferred method of citation is using the "cite.php" form of inline citations, using the <ref></ref> elements. Using this method, each time a particular source is mined for information (don't copy word-for-word!), a footnote is placed in the text ("inline"), that takes one to the detail of the source when clicked, set forth in a references section after the text of the article. In brief, anywhere you want a footnote to appear in a piece of text, you place an opening <ref> tag followed by the text of the citation which you want to appear at the bottom of the article, and close with a </ref> tag. Note the closing slash ("/"). For multiple use of a single reference, the opening ref tag is given a name, like so: <ref name="name"> followed by the citation text and a closing </ref> tag. Each time you want to use that footnote again, you simply use the first element with a slash, like so: <ref name="name" />. In order for these references to appear, you must tell the software where to display them, using either the code </references> or, most commonly, the template, {{Reflist}} which can be modified to display the references in 2 or 3 columns using {{Reflist|2}} or {{Reflist|3}}. Per our style guidelines, the references should be displayed in a separate section denominated "References" located after the body of the article.
Inline citation code; what you type in 'edit mode'	What it produces when you save
Two separate citations.<ref>Citation text.</ref><ref>Citation text2.</ref> Multiple<ref name="multiple">Citation text3.</ref>citation<ref name="multiple" /> use.<ref name="multiple" /> ==References== {{Reflist}}	Two separate citations. Multiple citation use. References_________________
Templates that can be used between <ref></ref> tags to format references {{Citation}} • {{Cite web}} • {{Cite book}} • {{Cite news}} • {{Cite journal}} • Others • Examples

Kayau Voting IS evil 08:51, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

There's a page that has some wrong information. I want to correct it and delete the old reference/cite or whatever they're called, which links to a missing web page now anyway, and put two new references. Yet I can't figure out how to do this without red text appearing at the bottom of the article saying that I've broken the refs or something. I gave up reading the manual, I can't make head nor tails of it. Could somebody tell me simply and clearly so an idiot can understand, how I can do this? -OOPSIE- (talk) 08:59, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Can you link to the article? Kayau Voting IS evil 09:03, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BTR-60 -OOPSIE- (talk) 09:12, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Referencing has many possibilities. We have no way of determining what you do wrong from your post which doesn't even quote the red message. Try to make the wrong edit again but save it and then revert it if you don't want to leave the article in a bad state. Then we can see what you are trying to do in the page history. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:24, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I just did the change on the page and left it there. You can see the red text at the bottom. I don't know how to fix it, sorry -OOPSIE- (talk) 09:41, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Your edit [1] removed a named reference called "softland 1". It was used elsewhere in the article where it only said the name "softland 1" which had no associated reference text after your edit. I restored the text of the reference [2] in another place it was used. This system is briefly shown in a line starting with "Multiple" in the above reference description box, and in more detail at Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners#Same reference used more than once. I realize such things can complicate matters for new users but it's very practical to have when you know how to use it. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:01, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks everyone! -OOPSIE- (talk) 10:09, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome. As you said, the external link in the reference doesn't work, so I have added [3] {{Dead link}}. The old text can still be seen at the Wayback Machine which is now linked at the reference. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:12, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Looks like textbook...

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 – By Tnxman307 Acather96 (talk) 09:30, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

If an article looks more like textbook material than encyclopaedic content, (it is notable though), which maintenance tag should I tag it with? Kayau Voting IS evil 11:46, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Probably {{textbook}}? :) TNXMan 12:27, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Ooh, that should have been obvious. Thanks. Kayau Voting IS evil 12:29, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Lines Under Categories

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 – By Algebraist and MilborneOne

Acather96 (talk) 09:32, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

In the article That '70s Show, if you edit the External links section, underneath the categories are lines like "lt:That '70s Show" (with surrounding double brackets). They don't seem to appear in the article itself. What do they mean, and what are they used for?--Bbb23 (talk) 15:46, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

They are interlanguage links. Algebraist 15:48, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

I read the page on the links, but I still don't understand their purpose at the bottom of the article. Some sort of editor cheat sheet because the article has references to other country programming?--Bbb23 (talk) 16:15, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

The code provides links to the same article in other languages and they (the links) appear at the bottom of the left hand navigation pane not at the the bottom of the main article. MilborneOne (talk) 17:18, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Aaah, I never noticed, thanks much.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:31, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Defamation of Living People

If a biography of a living person is being tightly controlled by non-neutral editors and is potentially defamatory due to omission (suggesting liability for the Foundation), what would be the proper course of action for the defamed individual, short of filing a lawsuit? ValkyrieOfOdin (talk) 16:14, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Users can report alleged libel to Wikipedia in at least two ways. See WP:Libel (e-mail us) and WP:Contact us. However, if you believe something is libelous and you have trouble removing it, you should report it. For example, it would be helpful for you to identify which article is defamatory and why.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:40, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

As the page is locked, it is well-controlled. Naveen_jain is the item in question, and the content is barely a biography. The source of the article is largely a single-source series (about a company, not the person) in a Seattle Newspaper. Not only does this seem to raise questions of notability of the subject, the wikipedia content excludes positive information in order to present a negative POV. It smells strongly like WP:NOTBATTLEGROUND and WP:NOTSCANDAL. Furthermore, the act of excluding information and presenting an article that paints a subject negatively is defamation of character, and is a potential liability. ValkyrieOfOdin (talk) 17:12, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

The article isn't being "tightly controlled by non-neutral editors." It is semi-protected, apparently because of changes by anonymous users. Auto-confirmed users can still edit the article. Although the article has some contentious history and isn't very well-written, I fail to see any specific libel, by omission or otherwise. I suggest you raise your issues on the Talk page of the article.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:43, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Ok. My concern was for liability of the Foundation. Since I didn't go to law school, I don't really feel qualified to make that judgement. I guess the Foundation legal counsel can sort it out if it comes to it. Given the subject and the history of that subject, it seems a very real possibility and a huge waste of Foundation resources. I respectfully disagree with regards to the issue of who is controlling the content (reading through the talk page makes it seem to be a grudge match to my eyes), but I guess the letter of control and the actual results are open to interpretation. ValkyrieOfOdin (talk) 00:00, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

If you have legitimate concerns, use the venues described above (WP:LIBEL and WP:CONTACT). No one answering here can give definitive legal advice on how to proceed. It is best to handle this through the proper channels. --Jayron32 00:47, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

I see you posted some of your concerns on the Talk page. That's a good start. If you're still troubled by the semi-protection block, you can contact directly the admin who placed it, EdJohnston. I agree with Jayron32's comments about legal advice. Good luck.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:52, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for all the input. Yes, I'm bubbling some issues onto the talk page, but I'm concerned about derailing it from the actual article talk. Still, maybe it will help get the article on-track. Thanks again, the issue is closed in regards to this page. ValkyrieOfOdin (talk) 15:34, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Size of pdf pictures in thumbnail

I uploaded a pdf file with a picture (graph), previously cropped via Acrobat to minimize white margins. Horizontal and vertical size are nearly the same.

Problems and questions:

- Problem 1: in the thumbnail display in the article, the figure takes up only a small fraction of the thumbnail rectangle (as if the cropping were ignored) and is horizontally elongated. Question 1: how can the picture be made to fill the thumbnail format more completely and without changing the aspect ratio?

- Problem 2: recovering the picture in full size from the article requires two steps: clicking on the thumbnail, and clicking on the file that is opened by the preceding click. Question: how can the thumbnail be made to yield the picture in full size with just one click? Boute (talk) 16:29, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

I have re-uploaded the image to Commons, converting it to a png and preserved your licensing and attributed the image to you. Please see File:Plot of decibel and inverse.png. I am not an image expert, but I have read that this is the best file format for this type of image and it gets rid of all the problems you were having I think. If you have other pdfs that you want to convert and not have these problems, you can download (for free) GIMP. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:20, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Actually the SVG format is a far better option for this kind of diagram – I've converted the image (using pdf2svg) and uploaded to File:Plot of decibel and inverse.svg. AJCham 19:09, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Special:Preferences

Hi, does anyone know the mediawiki pages designed to display the content on special pages such as this one? I may be requesting a few changes to some of them... :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 17:32, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

See Special:AllMessages. However, the prefs are deep down in the software, so good luck with that. —mono 19:11, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

.Formatting Problem I Can't Fix

Made some minor factual edits to sue Thompson page a few days ago. Must have made format error(s) because the display seems to include coding, making it not very readable. I can't seem to fix it or even return to the pre-edit display. Can you help with fix? Thanks's from Dan Keenan, Sue's official biographer.Dankeenan41 (talk) 18:01, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

 Fixed I have fixed the infobox for you, you were missing the ends of a few brackets, and also had mized up some of the lines. For future, it would help if you posted an actual link to the article as well though :) - Happysailor ^(Talk) 18:08, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Upper/lower case letters in user name

Hi, I created an account entering as my desired user name "lucabombelli", ALL lower case. The account was successfully created but named "Lucabombelli", which I do not want to use; I guess there was a rule about the first letter having to be capitalized. So I tried to create a new account named "LucaBombelli", the second best option, but that was not possible, because it was too close to the existing "Lucabombelli". Is there any way to have the all-lower-case name, or both "L" and "B" upper? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucabombelli (talk • contribs) 20:47, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

The first letter of usernames and page names is automatically capitalized. You can request a change from Lucabombelli to LucaBombelli at Wikipedia:Changing username. Note that spaces are allowed so you can also request Luca Bombelli if you want - I don't know whether you can create it by yourself. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:21, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

No, he would need an accountcreator to create it for him. sonia^♫♪ 00:53, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Need temporary authorization to upload photo

I need temporary authorization to upload a photo. There are no adequate photos on the web I could otherwise link to making the one I need to upload very unique and insightful to the reader. If you wish, I can email the admin the photo and they can upload it. Either way is OK. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Multiplexusa (talk • contribs) 21:05, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Can you tell us what the picture is or give us a link to it (if it's on the web)? TNXMan 22:26, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes, knowing the topic of the photo would be helpful. However, please look at the image use policy, and think twice, as Wikipedia is not a respository. Otherwise, go ahead. I reccomend putting the image on a site such as TinyPic (link), and posting a message on my talk page with the link, and any other information about it.  A p3rson ‽ 02:00, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Missing space

In the article Sepang there is a display problem where a space in the wiki source sometimes does not appear as a space in a browser nor in the page source. Examples:

• Sepangis a town (Should be: Sepang is a town)
• the Sepang International Circuitand as the site (Should be: the Sepang International Circuit and as the site)
• Bagan Lalangin Sepang district (Should be: Bagan Lalang in Sepang district)
• the Malaysian Grand Prixwhich is the (Should be: the Malaysian Grand Prix which is the)

For the first example the page source is:

     <p><b>Sepang</b>is a town    

The wiki source is:

     '''Sepang''' is a town      

Platform: Opera 10.53 and Firefox 3.6 (the problem appears in both browsers). Windows.

What is the reason and how can I fix it?

--Mortense (talk) 21:15, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

 Fixed It looks so much nicer now. I fixed the Infoxbox template.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:30, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

August 1

Please help me sort out complaint and Complaint (disambiguation)

I'm struggling with the proper way to disambiguate these concepts. I feel that complaint should be an article about the legal term, since that is how it is mostly used on wikipedia. So I created Complaint (disambiguation) and moved all the other stuff there. However, I'm not sure how to structure that page. My problem is that these aren't really "ambiguous" concepts; they all refer to complaints, but vary in terms of specificity and context.

I'm going to set this aside for a little while; if you have any ideas, please be bold! Thanks. Andrew Gradman ^talk/_WP:Hornbook 01:16, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Huh? really? In real life though, it usually refers to consumer complaints right? Kayau Voting IS evil 02:09, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

I took a crack at the form. It is a bit of an odd duck as a disambiguation page.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:24, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

I would say very few people outside of a legal environment know what the legal definition of a complaint is and that the page should go to consumer complaint first. EdEColbert^{Let me know} 04:48, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Sounds like time to start a move-request discussion to see if the legal term should be used as the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. DMacks (talk) 06:49, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

DMacks, hold on--I'm not (yet) convinced that we should initiate a move-request. While I do agree that most people don't immediately think of the term "complaint" as referring to the legal concept, it happens that about 80% of the usages of complaint on Wikipedia are referencing the legal concept. Perhaps that's because people are only inclined to wikify the word when it's used as a technical term. To me, this is a strong argument in favor of not renaming the pages. Andrew Gradman ^talk/_WP:Hornbook 08:20, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Exactly--my comment was directed to EdColbert. But (to Agradman), WP:RM process is to open a discussion on the article's talk-page to get consensus if there is uncertainty about whether to have a primarytopic vs the dab-page at the simple-name. This help-desk is not widely viewed by editors (as far as I know:)--better to discuss this sort of thing on the article's talk-page, where people who care about it have it watchlisted. DMacks (talk) 08:31, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Aha! Understood. Andrew Gradman ^talk/_WP:Hornbook 09:05, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

MLM Network Marketing

Hello and have a nice day,

There is a company which is start to be a well known company and has many people shoping from it. its a MLM Network Marketing Company called: Quest Net, their website is: www.qnet.net

This company give commissions for people who buy products from it and bring customers. (its Network Marketing)

Is this company true? can we trust this company?

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.150.25.218 (talk) 07:59, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Miscellaneous reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. Kayau Voting IS evil 08:21, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Website with the Wikipedia Template

I want to start a website that looks and functions like Wikipedia, but that has a different purpose. Is this allowed? If so, how do I incorporate the Wiki template? Also, I'd like my domain name to include the word 'wiki'. Is this allowed? Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.66.33.228 (talk) 09:42, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

1)yes; see mw:Main Page. 2)yes; you can read it up on Wikis for Dummies. Kayau Voting IS evil 10:09, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Unattended article

Sir, i was making an article which is based on an Indian Mobile Company. It is the third largest company in market share in mobile phones. It has done many new things in the industry. But when i was searching this company on wikipedia. I couldn't find. So, i decided to write about the company. So that people can know the booming mobile industry in india. So, i want to know why it is being deleted. If i can't make this article. Then i request you to make an article on this company. It is very nice company as it has already beaten market shares of other companies like sony erricsson, motorola etc and soon it'll beat Samsung also. According to its raising popularity.. So i want you to make an article. For more information visit http://www.Micromaxinfo.com/

thank you,

regards, Naveen Saini —Preceding unsigned comment added by Naveennaveennav76 (talk • contribs) 11:58, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Please read WP:V, WP:NPOV, WP:RS, WP:N and WP:AD. They are important guidelines and you must follow all of these when writing an article. Thanks Kayau Voting IS evil 12:04, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Indeed, read all of those pages, and in addition, please read {{Nothanks}} which is a warning you could also have received. In short, the text you posted was a blatant copyright violation, having been cut and pasted from preexisting text.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:32, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Collapsable Nav Boxes

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I like my tidy user page, made possible with wonderful collapsable nav boxes. I use the {collapse top} {collapse bottom} templates. Only problem is their green colour annoys me. Is there any way to change this default colour? I've tried the usual syntax; maybe I'm just getting it wrong. I've searched far and wide for documentation on how to do it. Thanks! --Whoosit (talk) 12:03, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

I replaced {{collapse top}} on your user page with the template code itself, and changed the color from that green to "NavajoWhite", so where you see that listed, you can replace it with any color you'd like. See web colors for a list. There may very well be a better way to do this, but it works for the moment.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:26, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Terrific! Thanks! --Whoosit (talk) 12:31, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

{{collapse top}} has a bg parameter for background color. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:35, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

If it can be done with a parameter, then that'd be a much better way of doing it:-)--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:36, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Yep, should have looked at documentation. I replaced it.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:40, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, but your first hack keeps it text-free. No "Extended Content" dialogue. Which I kind of like. --Whoosit (talk) 14:06, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

See the documentation at {{collapse top}}. Many templates have documentation displayed on their template page. You can avoid a title by making an empty unnamed parameter (by adding a pipe | and nothing else) or by assigning nothing to title as in |title=. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:31, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Civil List

Firstly, I don't want to edit Wikipedia. I want to find out something. I'm led to believe that Scientists and others of Eminence have been receiving a pension from the Civil List since 1696. If this is so, I would like to know more about that history and process. I'm led to believe that some of our greatest scientists are or have been pensioned in honour by that list. As Wikipedia describes the Civil List as not income to the Monarchy, but an "expenses" fund, it would be interesting to be made aware of the proportion alloted to pensions for non-royal recipients. If my point is valid, then information should be added to the description of the Civil List as its main function is far from its only one and requires further explanation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.105.188.178 (talk) 13:51, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, this desk is for asking questions about using Wikipedia. You can ask at the miscellaneous reference desk or on the talk page of Civil List, as they may be able to help you. TNXMan 13:55, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Or the humanities reference desk? Kayau Voting IS evil 14:05, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Userbox categories - noinclude, incude etc

Resolved

 – Remove the cat from the userbox. TFOWR 19:00, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Long time answerer [sic], first time posterer [sic], unsure whether this belongs here or at WP:VPT...

So — I have a userbox which I created. It has Category:Wikipedians in Scotland within the <includeonly> section, so the userbox itself doesn't appear to be a "Wikipedian in Scotland". Which is good.

However... this category gets used whenever the userbox is transcluded. The userbox is transcluded on User:TFOWR/Userboxes. This means that User:TFOWR/Userboxes gets listed at Category:Wikipedians in Scotland. The same is true for Category:Wikipedia administrators open to recall, though, in my defence, I didn't create the userbox responsible for that.

Is there an easy way to prevent this? What am I doing wrong? Help! TFOWR 15:01, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Userboxes#Caution about user categories says: "Userboxes should not automatically include categories." But many userboxes don't follow it. See Wikipedia:Category suppression. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:23, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Aha! That's just the pointer I needed. Thanks! I think the easiest thing is simply to remove the cat from the userbox, but it looks like there may be some cunning technical way to get it to behave. Thanks again. TFOWR 19:00, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Add <noinclude>{{documentation}}</noinclude> to the end of the template and put categories on the documentation page. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 19:04, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

No joy, I'm afraid - unless I've missing something (entirely possible...) I created a copy of the original userbox, with a /doc page, and the damn thing shows up at Category:Wikipedians_in_Scotland. It's no great problem - I've removed the cat from the original userbox, and added it manually to my userpage. Thanks anyway (and, obviously, if you have any further ideas they'll be very gratefully received). TFOWR 21:51, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

The suggestion by Gadget850 is a way to do something else: To add a template page to a category (for example Category:Place of residence user templates) without adding the pages transcluding the template. Your goal was to add some of the pages transcluding the template to a category but not all of them. This is what Wikipedia:Category suppression is about. There are different methods depending on the wanted default behaviour. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:14, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm slightly less confused now, thanks! Aye, I did wonder - I've got another userbox that uses the <noinclude>{{documentation}}</noinclude> idiom, so I was familiar with it but couldn't understand how it would help here - that'll be why ;-) I'll return to cat suppression when I've got time to look at it in depth. TFOWR 08:14, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Publishing a document

I have a page ready for publication but am at a loss as to how to get this shown. I have mentioned names already in wiki but cannot see what I should do next —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bluejay700 (talk • contribs) 15:46, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

It looks like you figured out how to get the article into main space, although, IMO, it wasn't close to ready. You might ask for help at Requests for feedback, although they are a little backlogged. You need references (see Referencing for beginners) and a glance at Manual of Style would help.--SPhilbrickT 22:03, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Numbered Lists

Resolved

I know to use the # symbol at the start of each new line to get a numbered list:

1. Apples
2. Bananas
3. Grapes

But what if I want a numbered list to go down say 10 items and then start a new column and go down ten lines and then start a new column? Instead of having a long thin column of one word items I would like to have several columns side by side, but with decent spacing between columns. Any ideas? — Fly by Night (talk) 16:22, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

WP:COLUMN would be first place to look. There are several ways to do it. Some may not allow continuous numbering flow into each column. Different options might let you select a fixed column width (letting browser decide how many columns will fit on user's screen) vs a fixed number of columns (their widths adjusting to fit the screen), etc. DMacks (talk) 16:39, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Super, thanks! I used {{colbegin}} and {{colend}} at the beginning and end of my numbered list and it split it into two columns. It even kept a continuous numbering. Thanks again. — Fly by Night (talk) 17:29, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject

Resolved

I am a fairly frequent editor on Wikipedia. I mainly edit on certain topics, but I am not a listed member of any Wikiproject. Is that a problem?Us441 (talk) 19:28, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

No, it's not. You may join or not join WikiProjects as the spirit may move you. :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 19:30, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Article traffic statistics

In the last five days there is no any information about article traffic statistics. All af the article stats are 0. Could you answer me what should be the reason ? It seems to be unbelievable that for example Rolling Stones from 11,1K 20100726 has fall down to 0 and stay there.

Whith best regards:Vezér —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vezér (talk • contribs) 20:25, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

They're being counted but it seems from Henrik's talk page that there is an error with dammit's results. stats.grok.se not providing results has already been reported to WP:VPT. Nanonic (talk) 20:47, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

HOW DO I PUBLISH FROM MY USER PAGE?

I have an article that I am ready to launch but have no idea how to do that. Where do I go for help? Seems to me it should be easy but it's not. ````THOMAS BONTEThomas Bonte 20:40, 1 August 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thomas Bonte (talk • contribs)

You should be autoconfirmed, so the way to "publish" the article is to move it. There is a move button, admittedly not very evident, at the top of the page. You might have to click on a down arrow to see it. However, while you have done an enormous amount of work, it is not yet ready.

A glance through Manual of Style will highlight a number of problems.--SPhilbrickT 21:22, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

• You have quite a number of spelling errors. I've fixed some, but some are within quotes and within references - I don't want to fix those if the error is in the original. (I went ahead and fixed them, revert if I got any wrong)
• I fixed the quoted poem so it doesn't appear in the blue box. If your indentations were important, I can figure out how to restore them, just let me know. (Fixed indentation.) I didn't see the name of the poet, so I used "student poet" if you have the name, it would be better.
• I fixed some of your section headings and the capitalization.
• I removed the example external link, it was just an example, not a real one.
• It still isn't ready--SPhilbrickT 21:40, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
• Your footnote #22 lists page 368. Shouldn't it be page 382?--SPhilbrickT 22:28, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
• Now it's ready—I added some further comments to your talk page--SPhilbrickT 22:48, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

August 2

how do I search for article titles?

How do I search for specific phrases in article titles? I tried "intitle:(people)", but it turns up all titles with "people" in them. If there's a way to do this using AWB, that would be even better. — kwami (talk) 00:32, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Maybe I'm missing something, but intitle:"this is a phrase" works for me. Why did your search surprise you? It did what you asked.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:24, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

The search didn't return the dozen or so articles with "(people)", but instead the thousands with "people". I now want to do searches of (language) and (dialect), but it's impractical to do a manual selection unless I can narrow down the return. — kwami (talk) 01:34, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't know whether the normal search box can search for parentheses. At http://toolserver.org/~nikola/grep.php?lang=en&wiki=wikipedia&ns=0 you can search for \(people\) to get titles containing "(people)". I haven't tried whether it works in AWB. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:38, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Hey, thanks! That's handy.

It might, if it were possible to search for titles in AWB. — kwami (talk) 12:21, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Sortable Table problem - Recent change in format

I've been creating sortable tables for two years for many lists of museums, as in List of museums in Cumbria. These tables all looked fine, but several days ago the font size for Wikipedia articles changed on my screen (nothing I did), and then the tables started to look different. Even though I think I have the correct layout, suddenly there is a missing separator bar between some columns and rows. In the article listed, for example, note the lack of a bar between the Name and Image columns, and between the rows for Carlisle Castle through Daleman Estate. I have not changed anything, the layout seems identical, but now things are different. Is there something I'm missing? Thank you for any help. Jllm06 (talk) 01:44, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Is it possible you accidentally hit the control button and the plus or minus sign, or the control button and moved the scroll wheel on your mouse either up or down? Well, whether you changed it inadvertently or it was a passing cosmic ray or gremlins doesn't matter much; either of the methods I just mentioned will allow you to change the font size back (in some browsers). You can also go to the menu at the top of your browser screen, go to view and then zoom in or out. You can also reset the zoom level to the default with ctrl+0 (zero) Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:36, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

The table looks fine to me in Internet Explorer, Firefox, Google Chrome and Opera. You could try to clear your entire cache. If there are still problems then which browser do you have? PrimeHunter (talk) 08:21, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Rating for questions in reference desk

Have this request ever been considered? Is there any plan to implement it? If not yet, can I ask the developer to add the rating for reference desk questions? If I can, where can I request it? Thanks... roscoe_x (talk) 03:10, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

The Wikipedia talk:Reference desk page would be a great place to discuss ideas for improving the ref-desks. DMacks (talk) 03:38, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Blacklist

Hi - I'd like to remove my company atechs.com from the blacklist. We had an intern that kept posting a link and then told me (I am the Founder/CEO) that we are blacklisted. Is there a way to get off this list? I can assure we will not spam or post our link anymore.

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.70.12.111 (talk) 03:54, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't know which blacklist your employee got you listed on. Wikipedia:Blacklist has links to various places to see what led to the listing and to ask about getting delisted. DMacks (talk) 04:03, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict) For what purpose would you like to add a link to your website? Wikipedia has policies and guidelines which govern outgoing links from Wikipedia, see Wikipedia:External links. If you could tell us where you would like to put your company's link and why, we could look into it. --Jayron32 04:05, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

It was blacklisted yesterday at MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist#atechs.com. Proposed removals go on the same page. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:12, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

SoCo Lime Recipe Mixes

The Article was good. But there is no Information on how to mix the New SoCo Lime. Even at their own website. Was curious if you guys can get that info? Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.110.85.78 (talk) 06:07, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Maybe you can go get the info and put it into the article so that everyone knows the info and everyone is happy. Kayau Voting IS evil 06:23, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

We don't have any article about SoCo Lime. And Kayau, please don't tell people to place a recipe in an article. Goodvac (talk) 06:45, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

If we don't have an article about, whatever that is, then why is s/he asking? Kayau Voting IS evil 09:21, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

My below reply gives a possible answer to that. This page gets many questions from posters who think it's a help desk for some external site or organization. That's why {{Astray}} was made. SoCo probably refers to Southern Comfort which may be "The Article" the poster refers to. A surprisingly large number of posters don't mention the name of the page they are posting about. Maybe they don't realize we have millions of articles and are not mind readers. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:39, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 PrimeHunter (talk) 08:01, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

We have an article about Southern Comfort. Maybe you were thinking of that. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:07, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Another blacklist question

I just typed in a long reply on the RD which included a link to a blacklisted site (I didn't know it was blacklisted). When I attempted to save the page I got a message saying that my changes had not been saved and that I should go back and edit my reply. But when I hit the back button on my browser, my entire reply had disappeared (the original question was still there). wtf. --Viennese Waltz ^talk 08:32, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

It's browser dependent whether and when your data is preserved when you hit the back button. Make sure to hit the real back button built into the browser and not a back or "Return to" link displayed on the page. It always works for me in Firefox at Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:51, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. It certainly never works for me on IE7. Unfortunately I'm stuck with this browser. Reminds me that it's good practice to always Ctrl+C before saving. --Viennese Waltz ^talk 09:06, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 42#"What's this?" link next to the minor edit checkbox should open in a new window mentions a script which may (I haven't tried it) make IE7 open a new window from the edit screen in some situations (maybe not when clicking Save) so the form data will still be in the old window - but closing extra windows may also be annoying. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:54, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Image deletion problem

Hello, please can you help me. The following 2 images have been deleted from an article in Wikipedia.org about the Dobhar-chu. File:Dobhar-chu encounter.jpg File:Dobhar-chu encounter 2.jpg Also I have noticed that the following image of a hand drawn map of Omey Island has been deleted from the Omey Island page; File:Omey Island Map.jpg I am the artist and original creator of these drawings. These images were uploaded by Bango Art with my permission. I am not very familiar with the appeal system in operation on Wikipedia and do not understand how to request that these images be reinstated. Please can you help to rectify the situation. Below I have filled in the sample letter that I located on Wikipedia to authorise the use of these 3 images. I hope this will suffice; I hereby affirm that I, Sean Corcoran am the creator and sole owner of the exclusive copyright of the 3 images as identified above. They can be seen on my website in the following locations; The 2 Dobhar-chu drawings; http://www.seancorcoranart.com/articles_140739.html The Omey Map; http://www.seancorcoranart.com/articles_98951.html I agree to release the work into the public domain as had been undertaken by Bango Art. I agree to publish that work under the free license "Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0" (unported) and GNU Free Documentation License (unversioned, with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts).] I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the work in a commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws. I am aware that I always retain copyright of my work, and retain the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be attributed to me. I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the content may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project. Sean Corcoran, Artist/Designer, Waterford, Ireland, July 21st, 2010. www.seancorcoranart.com 00 353 87 2524657

Thank You —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bango Art (talk • contribs) 09:57, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

You did not say so, so they don't know if you agree, so they deleted it. Kayau Voting IS evil 10:00, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Yes but I don't know how to put things right, please help...Bango Art (talk) 10:10, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

If you do still want to donate the images you can send the permissions message you wrote out above to permissions-en@wikimedia.org, then upload the image files again yourself and supply this permission at the point of uploading - see this page on Donating your images for instructions on how to do so. You could achieve the same effect by placing a "copyleft" notice on the website where the material is already hosted - details on doing so are here. Does that help? Gonzonoir (talk) 10:13, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you but I emailed the address you suggested several weeks ago and haven't recieved a reply of any kind. I will pursue the other suggestions you have given me, thank you.Bango Art (talk) 10:26, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Images deleted, please help

Hello, please can you help.Bango Art (talk) 10:01, 2 August 2010 (UTC) The following 2 images have been deleted from an article in Wikipedia.org about the Dobhar-chu. File:Dobhar-chu encounter.jpg File:Dobhar-chu encounter 2.jpg Also I have noticed that the following image of a hand drawn map of Omey Island has been deleted from the Omey Island page; File:Omey Island Map.jpg I am the artist and original creator of these drawings. These images were uploaded by Bango Art with my permission. I am not very familiar with the appeal system in operation on Wikipedia and do not understand how to request that these images be reinstated. Please can you help to rectify the situation. Below I have filled in the sample letter that I located on Wikipedia to authorise the use of these 3 images. I hope this will suffice; I hereby affirm that I, Sean Corcoran am the creator and sole owner of the exclusive copyright of the 3 images as identified above. They can be seen on my website in the following locations; The 2 Dobhar-chu drawings; http://www.seancorcoranart.com/articles_140739.html The Omey Map; http://www.seancorcoranart.com/articles_98951.html I agree to release the work into the public domain as had been undertaken by Bango Art. I agree to publish that work under the free license "Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0" (unported) and GNU Free Documentation License (unversioned, with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts).] I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the work in a commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws. I am aware that I always retain copyright of my work, and retain the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be attributed to me. I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the content may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project. Sean Corcoran, Artist/Designer, Waterford, Ireland, July 21st, 2010. www.seancorcoranart.com 00 353 87 2524657

The question has already been answered above. Kayau Voting IS evil 10:07, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Stub Icon

I tried to do a stub icon proposal, but I failed because the month had no section, as no other proposals have been made so far in August. What should I do?Us441 (talk) 12:43, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Could you kindly be clearer on what you mean out here? Regards. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 17:49, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Facebook

how am i going to work on facebook —Preceding unsigned comment added by Usman Rukayat (talk • contribs) 13:52, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Miscellaneous reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. Kayau Voting IS evil 13:55, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Biography posting

Our father is on his deathbed, but would be very much embarrassed to find himself on Wikipedia. He was decorated during the Vietnam war, managed to finish 2 degrees afterward on the G.I. Bill, then built a sailboat and traveled around the world, three times, alone, on his sailboats, then had and adopted 8 children from 3 countries. We wish to make the information known for several reasons, one is for us to be able to trace our heritage in the hopes someone will see the information. We want to elicit data from dad, then write the article, then have it posted after he passes. How could we do that? Charlie, <redact> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.255.216.8 (talk) 14:10, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

You should only undertake this if you believe that he would pass the Wikipedia:Notability guidelines. While your father sounds like an impressive person, nothing you have presented so far suggests he is notable. (I did not understand your opening sentence – why would being in WP be embarrassing, and if so why would you want to embarrass him? --SPhilbrickT 14:22, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

If he doesn't pass the notability threshold for WP, there are other options, e.g wikibios--SPhilbrickT 14:25, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Dear Charlie, kindly read WP:Notability, WP:Bio and WP:BLP. These are guidelines that you should follow before posting any biography on Wikipedia. Once you believe your father does qualify on our notability guidelines, please read our conflict of interest guidelines before getting on to writing your first article or taking our help directly. Regards. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 18:11, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

redirect keywords/terms

Dear Sir or Ms, Is there a way, through an api or automated pull to generate a list of redirects to specific keyterms. For example, could we pull a download that looks like this.

Keyword                               Redirect 1            Redirect 2          Redirect 3            Redirect 4
International Business Machines       IBM                   Big Blue
Bundesbank Deutche                    Bundesbank
United States of America              U.S.                  US                  USA                    America

etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.104.78.20 (talk) 14:52, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Get the project dump; use a dump reader to pull a list of all redirects, sort them out and there, you have it. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 17:57, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Google in Wikipedia

I just recently found out an easy way to link to google through Wikicode: Strange matter, for example. Does anyone know where the help page for this feature or the coding that enables this feature are? Thanks, :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 17:22, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Do you specifically wish to have knowledge about how to use Google through wiki code or is your interest purely in wiki code, per se? Regards. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 18:02, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

The usage [[Google:Strange matter|Strange matter]] to create Strange matter is part of the InterWiki map. It's meant for using prefixes to easily link to wikis not part of Wikimedia Foundation, but it can link to some non-wiki websites as well, like Google. --Mysdaao ^talk 18:18, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I was actually wondering why the Google link would work, but a Yahoo! one like Strange matter wouldn't. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 19:11, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Also see {{Google}}, {{Google custom}}, WP:EIW#Google, and {{Yahoo directory}}. --Teratornis (talk) 04:36, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Deleting Advertisement

How do I delete an advertisement that I created? —Preceding unsigned comment added by PSDA (talk • contribs) 17:42, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Did you create this advertisement on Wikipedia? ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 17:49, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

I bet it is Print Services & Distribution Association. The user created that page as a pure advertisement. Others have edited the article and made it more encyclopedic, which makes it a terrible advertisement. Now, the original author (who coincidentally has a username which is the initials of the company) wants it removed. Happens all the time. You can request that the article be deleted, but that doesn't mean it will be deleted. -- kainaw™ 17:57, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Well how can a deletion request be made? —Preceding unsigned comment added by PSDA (talk • contribs) 18:34, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

• Kindly read WP:Deletion policy and WP:Deletion process. Regards. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 18:40, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Need Article Information That Was Deleated!

I made an article 'TTC Times,' which was later deleated because it broke Wiki rules. I would like the information that was in the article for a project I am doing and can't figure out how to get it back. Thanks in advance! Toontown59153 (talk) 18:07, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Viewing and restoring deleted pages. Only administrators can see the history of deleted pages, and I'm assuming you are not an administrator. I would suggest that you keep backup copies of information you submit to Wikipedia that you want in the future, because as you can see, it may not be here forever. Best of luck! GorillaWarfare ^talk 18:11, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

You can, however, ask an administrator to retrieve it for you. See Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted?. Even if the content cannot be made appropriate for Wikipedia, a number of administrators are willing to provide you a copy of it for your own records. I'm among them, for that matter. Feel free to drop me a note at my talk page if you would like access to this content for your own records. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 18:34, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Sources Allowed and Forbidden

Moved here from Reference Desk. Currently, I am writing a Wiki on a South Korean composer named Bahnus. However there is an issue with the references/sources I added.

Bahnus is a composer who recently ended up in one of Korea's biggest plagiarism scandals, however the Wiki is a biography on a living person so extra strict rules apply to what I can and what I cannot write.(Take note that Bahnus pleaded Guilty himself, but the lawsuit still has to come to a conclusion)

Because I'm not able to read Korean, I depend on English articles and translations from Korean ones. Websites such as Allkpop, specialized in breaking news about anything concerning Korean Pop(Kpop), reported on the plagiarism scandal from the very start and provided the most detailed information found online. Now there is a discussion which is developing with other Wikipedians who say that Allkpop does not meet the standards as prescribed in the WP:RS.

These Wikipedians put Allkpop in the category 'gossip' and 'forum'. Although Allkpop does indeed provide some 'gossip' it also publishes official news, such as translated statements by entertainment companies and record labels on all sorts of issues. For details you can visit their 'About Us' page. Allkpop provides news and has a great number of readers who form a big community, thats why Allkpop hosts a Forum separately from their news website.

Because the other wikipedians kept removing my Allkpop references I was forced to search for other sources to re-write the Wiki. I found English written Korean newspapers such as the Korea Times, the Chosun Ilbo. These newspaper sources were accepted, but these English newspapers only covered the last phase of the plagiarism issue, not the very beginning.

Also, more importantly, I found out that these newspapers provided wrong information in their articles, they state completely false things, which I can prove. Ofcourse, I left this 'wrong' information out of the Wiki, but I cannot understand that its not allowed to reference Allkpop(who know what theyre writing about) and allowing the newspapers(who obviously have no clue what is what).

That is why I ask, Can Allkpop be used as reference for the Wiki Bahnus?

This issue with references also applies to Lee_Hyori who is the singer duped by Bahnus because he provided her with the plagiarized songs. For details on the discussion visit Bahnus' talk page and Lee Hyori's talk page Intouchwithbertj (talk) 16:56, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm afraid that the Help Desk is probably not the best forum for this question. The best place to get feedback on whether or not a source is reliable is usually the reliable sources noticeboard, which is typically volunteered by contributors who are interested in and experienced with evaluating sources for reliability. When it concerns a living persons and controversial information, you can also ask for further opinion at the Biographies of Living Persons Noticeboard. These kinds of questions are usually resolved through discussion among interested contributors, leading to "consensus", and the Help Desk isn't really geared for in-depth discussions. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 21:23, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

When opening an article it asks to download a file

When opening the article below I am prompted to find or save the file: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perseids

Either linked from Google search for "Perseid Meteor Shower" or from this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteor_shower —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.176.13.22 (talk) 19:55, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

I've had this once or twice; it's most likely a firefox bug, not Wikipedia. -- bydand•talk 11:59, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

i'm using IE —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.176.13.22 (talk) 13:29, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Does Wikipedia:Contact us/Article problem/File download help? – ukexpat (talk) 14:24, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

it does indeed! thank you very much :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.176.13.22 (talk) 17:06, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

WP:FOO

Why does WP:FOO redirect to the Wikipedia sandbox? What does foo mean? :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 20:10, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

See the Wiktionary definition: foo. – ukexpat (talk) 20:13, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

How come we don't have WP:FOOBAR? :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 21:28, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Maybe because some people think Wikipedia is fubar? --Jayron32 02:19, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

I decided to investigate.

• I looked at Special:WhatLinksHere/Wikipedia:FOO, thinking that maybe someone has a link to WP:FOO on a help page or something to illustrate linking to the sandbox. But the long list of pages there is daunting.
• Then I remembered to look at the history of the redirect which revealed this diff which has an edit summary that links to Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2008_July_27#WP:FOO_.E2.86.92_Wikipedia:Sandbox.

--Teratornis (talk) 04:30, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Comic strip reference

I want to improve the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Over_the_hedge, about the Over the Hedge comic strip. In particular, I want to refer to the strip of December 13, 2005.

How do I do this?

• Just say "It happened on December 13, 2005"
• Make a hypertext link to http://comics.com/over_the_hedge/2005-12-13/ (that URL might not be around forever)
• A template or something?

Neutron Jack (talk) 20:32, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

The answer is, usually, that it depends. Typically, you try to utilize the style already in use in an article. In this case, Over the Hedge has no sources at all, so that gives you an open field to start out with whatever sourcing style pleases you. I might follow the guidelines here. I see they don't offer any kind of "chapter title" or individual strip title. Seems sensible, since many comic strips don't have one.

You could generate something with with {{Citation}}:

• <ref>{{Citation |last=Fry | first = Michael | authorlink=Michael Fry | coauthors = [[T. Lewis]] |title= Over the Hedge |url=http://comics.com/over_the_hedge/2005-12-13/ |accessdate=2 August 2010 |date= 13 December 2005}}</ref>

Produces a footnote that says:

Fry, Michael (13 December 2005), Over the Hedge, retrieved 2 August 2010 {{citation}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)

No reason not to link it, even if the link may not be permanent. As long as the content is legally hosted (and it is), it will be useful so long as it lasts. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 21:36, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

There is also a {{cite comic}}. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 21:44, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Well, there you go. :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 22:13, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, {{cite comic}} is for comic books (Superman, Fantastic Four) as opposed to comic strips (Peanuts, Dilbert). I can't find a similar template for comic strips. Neutron Jack (talk) 23:56, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

If {{cite comic}} doesn't work for you, {{Citation}} may be your best bet. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 17:11, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Query: "CITRIS" doesn't link to CITRIS (Center for Information Technology Research in the Interest of Society)

In doing a wiki search for CITRIS (Center for Information Technology Research in the Interest of Society), the search redirects to "Citrus" instead of to CITRIS, which is a fair large, multi-campus research organization, headquartered at UC Berkeley. You can do a search for "Center for Information Technology Research in the Interest of Society", however most people commonly refer to our center as "CITRIS". How can we have such queries point to CITRIS rather than redirecting everyone to Citrus? "CITRIS" should locate this URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Information_Technology_Research_in_the_Interest_of_Society—Preceding unsigned comment added by Crackheadted (talk • contribs) 20:45, 2 August 2010 (UTC) Crackheadted (talk) 20:49, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

The question, really, would be whether our readers are more likely to be misspelling "citrus" (which is currently presumed) or looking for the Center for Information Technology Research in the Interest of Society. If the former, we can put a "hatnote" on citrus. That might look like this:

For the California institution, see Center for Information Technology Research in the Interest of Society.

(Institution is a little vague; I'm not at all sure what CITRIS is.)

If people are more likely to be searching for CITRIS than misspelling citrus, we could change the target of the redirect and put a similar note at the top of the organization page:

For the plants, see Citrus.

Personally, I'm leaning towards the latter, but I'm not sure. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 22:12, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Constant glitches while editing

Almost every time I try to edit a page, glitches in the text show up after I'm finished. These glitches randomly change bits of text throughout the article, such as "Metastasis" becoming "Metast9 GM" or "Metas<s��s" and "security cameras" becoming "securitawaymeras". It usually happens in areas of the article no where near the place I was actually editing. It never happens in the preview of the edit, only after I save the page. Using the sandbox first really doesn't help because even if I can correct the errors there, more will just appear when I go to the article itself. I have no idea why this is happening, and I even tried using a different web browser. (I was using Google Chrome before, and am now using Firefox, and nothing has changed.) My operating system is Windows Vista. Tesseract-7 (talk) 21:42, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm afraid I don't know either, but I'm linking to an example: [4]. If nobody shows up here who can help, you might ask again at WP:VPT. Generally, people who know this kind of thing do hang out there. :) (Sometimes they do here, too, though.) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 22:45, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll try there. Tesseract-7 (talk) 06:20, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

help please

i am thinking of becoming a notary. if i do, i want to go all the way. is there global or intrnational or is federal the highest. looking forward to joining the club. <blanked>. have a great day. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimbo4706 (talk • contribs) 20:55, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 TNXMan 22:30, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Dyson Peabody

You have told me that an articel on Dyson Parody is or maybe deleted the source can be found on the following webpage http://www.dartsdatabase.co.uk/PlayerDetails.aspx?playerKey=1368 thanks harry —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rockscorpion (talk • contribs) 22:36, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi. The article was deleted not because of the lack of sourcing, as was originally suggested, but because an administrator did not find any credible indication of importance or significance to the subject. Please see Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted? for more information, including steps on what to do if you disagree. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 12:59, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Screenshot

I am apparently unable to make screenshots. Could someone with that tool please take a screenshot of the logo at http://www.bctmod.army.mil/index.html. It would be very much appreciated. Marcus Qwertyus 23:35, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Are you sure you're unable to take screenshots? Have you tried Print screen and then pasted in paint? -- bydand•talk 11:57, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

August 3

Editing the Title of a Wiki page

How do I edit a Title of a wiki page that is inaccurate? An organization is using another organization's name in their title. --Wikigirl108 (talk) 00:28, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Can you be a little more specific? Without the name(s) of the article(s), I can give you some general advice, but that's about it. You would need to move the page to the correct title, but first your account must be autoconfirmed (at least four days old and made ten edits first). TNXMan 00:32, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Requesting assistance

Last week, I requested assistance from an editor to update the article Statistical Assessment Service, which in its current version, has many problems. I had prepared a revised version and, because I have a potential conflict of interest with the subject, worked alongside an uninvolved editor to make it ready for primetime. And then, after I had updated the article to address his last concern, he has not commented again although I've asked twice. So, I'd like for someone else to look at my proposed draft and our Talk page conversation. If you think my version is good to go, please move it over yourself or perhaps give your assent on that page, and I can take care of it. Of course, if you have other concerns, please let me know that, too. Cheers, NMS Bill (talk) 01:03, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

You can also ask for feedback at WP:FEED. – ukexpat (talk) 14:21, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

From a very quick look, your new version appears balanced. If User:MastCell is the editor you were working with before, I suggest you wait until he has a chance to respond. He has edited on August 3, so he must be around. There could be ways to more fully integrate this article with other Wikipedia articles that cover some of the same controversies. EdJohnston (talk) 19:37, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Businesses?

Hello,

Are you allowed to create a page for Wikipedia that highlights your business? Mine is TransformationServices, Inc. www.transformationservices.info--Drhicks (talk) 01:17, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

In a word, no. If you business is notable enough, people who are not associated with your business will be interested enough in it to write books and magazine articles about it. Then yet more people who have nothing to do with your business can read these books and articles and use them to write a Wikipedia article. That is how things get done here. See the pages:

• Wikipedia:Conflict of interest
• Wikipedia:Best practices for editors with conflicts of interest
• Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)
• Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations

for more reading on Wikipedia's policies and guidelines in these areas, as well as why they are in place to begin with. --Jayron32 02:17, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Faith Healing page - website links - advertising?

Hi,

On 30th July user Coltech88 added several website links on the Faith Healing page to: www.reiki.org and qigonghealingarts.org which look like organisations promoting the topics referenced. There's also a link to http://www.latter-rain.com/church/layingonofhands.htm.

I think that they shouldn't be there but wanted to check first rather than just deleting them - am I right?

Thanks, Adrian-from-london (talk) 02:30, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Links to commercial or organizational sites like this should be removed with impugnity as soon as they are encountered. See WP:ELNO for more examples of external links which are generally inappropriate. These fit the bill in spades. Remove them. --Jayron32 02:37, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Question about posting a story

Excuse Me, My name is Imaginationpage and I'm new. I have a story following up with a question... I joined to tell every one a story I've been working on for a while. However, I read the terms of use and it seems as if my article may not be excepted. My article would be completely fictional however, I intend to tell the reader at the very top of that none of the document exists anywhere outside my own mind. (The main clause that worries me reads "this website is only for articles that would be found in a encyclopedia") If this is allowed, I intend to take care not to violate any rules such as personal information, inappropriate information ect. Though my original question was "Did I sign up for the wrong reason" reading it back, it has become apparent the answer is "yes" So I suppose my actual question is if this behavior is allowed on any domains of my personal Wiki page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Imaginationpage (talk • contribs) 07:20, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Your story is original work and as such is not suitable for Wikipedia. See the alternative outlets and WikiIndex for other wikis that may accept your work. See Wikipedia:User pages for guidelines about what can go on your user page - in general, that should only be material that pertains to building the encyclopedia. Also see WP:NOT. --Teratornis (talk) 07:31, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

is adding categories actually helpful?

Can anyone give a personal testimonial of when the categories in articles actually helped them find helpful information?

I'm not talking about abstract hypotheticals -- I can dream up a whole bunch of those. But can anyone attest to them actually happening? 75.4.17.253 (talk) 08:51, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Oh dear, not another proposal to dump cats. Categories are very helpful IMO because it works as a navigational device between articles when there is not one that is readily available in the form of lists, templates, etc. Also, cats are important in stub sorting and all that. Kayau Voting IS evil 09:05, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

I use categories often to find related information. For example, if I'm looking for a type of hat, I would go to the category for hats and start exploring. I may not know the name but at least I can narrow it down to a category and work from there. Dismas|^(talk) 09:06, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

I use categories occasionally in Wikipedia, but I use them often in our (Mediawiki) wiki at work where I find them a very convenient way to navigate. --ColinFine (talk) 21:46, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Read Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates for a comparison of three of the main methods for grouping related articles on Wikipedia. All three methods have been useful to me - for example, if I have some application software I don't like, and I want to find similar software that might work better (or cost nothing), I look up the Wikipedia article on the application I know about, then look at any categories or list pages it appears in to see the similar packages. Also search the Help desk archive pages for "CatScan" - that finds many examples of people requesting information from Wikipedia that can be found by searching in Wikipedia's categories. As to how useful the various questioners found the advice, you would have to ask them. --Teratornis (talk) 21:59, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

As Kayau pointed out, categories are very helpful for Wikipedia maintenance. When people add message templates to articles, for example to highlight problems such as missing sources, the templates automatically categories the articles into maintenance categories, allowing Wikipedia's small army of maintainers to find articles with specific problems they know how to fix. Maintenance categories are useful for generating statistics on how big our backlogs are getting. --Teratornis (talk) 22:04, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Also see Semantic web and Semantic wiki. Someday, (maybe) Wikipedia will have semantic web features, and that will allow users to do complex queries on Wikipedia, which categories can only serve in limited ways at the moment (because we don't want to over-categorize). And read all the links under WP:EIW#Cat to grasp what categories are all about on Wikipedia. Categories are one of the harder Wikipedia features for the new user to understand. --Teratornis (talk) 22:07, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Agree with all those above. Use them all the time for all manner of things. However, I do sometimes wonder if certain categories are useful, and these are usually outside the mainspace or in the mainspace but hidden from normal view. For example, Category:Redirects from railroad names with ampersands but then there's always CfD if that becomes an issue. Still, you wanted some concrete examples. The other week I was searching for a list of articles that a deleted template had been in, which can be difficult to compile, so I went to a somewhat parallel category and looked at the edit history of the articles in it to see if the template had been deleted from them. When I'm searching for the proper stub tag, I think of a similar article, then to a category it's in with others and clicking on a few, I usually find the proper stub tag. Those are just two of many uses.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:08, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Hide a picture

Can someone explain me how to hide a picture in the same way i hide the TOC? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.184.231.254 (talk) 09:27, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Remove the picture. ;) Or put <!--[[File:Example.jpg]]--> there, if you want. Kayau Voting IS evil 09:30, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Are you trying to hide a picture from the article for everyone, or are you trying to hide it just for yourself? Kayau's answer applies to the first case. Someguy1221 (talk) 09:46, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

For the latter, please see WP:NOSEE. (hey... didn't intend the last joke.) Kayau Voting IS evil 09:48, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Next to TOC you have that button [hide/show]. Like this i want to have for pictures. To be capable me or the others, who visit the page, to hide the picture or to show it again. Exactly the use of [hide/show] button from the TOC. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.184.231.254 (talk) 09:58, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

I see, I thought you meant adding __NOTOC__. Please see WP:COLLAPSE. Kayau Voting IS evil 10:09, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure what article you are working on, but it's probably a good idea to get talk-page consensus about hiding an image before doing so. Some see hiding of images as censorship or a form of vandalism--no reason to get yourself labeled that way, but no harm in starting a discussion of it to make others aware of what the situation is. DMacks (talk) 17:14, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

New design is terrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What's the bug?

After redisign it's now impossible to wait for a page download! Every page is hanging at the end of downloading for several seconds. I gues it is the problem of IExplorer, but guys - IE is most common and I am not guilty that I have to use in my office! That is a common problem noticed by most of my colleagues and friends< and it is f##ng disturbing (((

Russian saying: the Best is animy for the Good. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.68.252.79 (talk) 14:26, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

It works on IE8. Can switch back to the old version (called monobook)? Kayau Voting IS evil 14:28, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous users can't switch. They have to create an account in order to switch. The Raptor ^{You rang?}/_{My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions} 14:29, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

I see. Then, can you log in? Kayau Voting IS evil 14:31, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Productora de Software Ltda, PSL

Hi. I manage e-marketing at my company Productora de Software Ltda, PSL. We have been victims of libel in our brief wiki description. Although we have edited the libel out, we would appreciate if Wikipedia could erase the diffamatory statements from the history of the page. The libel within the history page can be found in this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Productora_de_Software_Ltda&oldid=364932775

The libel is self evident, I am sure, to any reasonable reader. Thanks for your help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Avasquezpsl (talk • contribs) 15:05, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

You're talking about oversight, and oversight is only used in case of an emergency. Oversight is used when an email address or telephone number is posted, not when, from what I can see, somebody criticizes that company. If you still want an oversighter to review this, you can go to Wikipedia:Requests for oversight, but like I said, I don't see why that edit would need to be oversighted. The Raptor ^{You rang?}/_{My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions} 15:08, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

It was ordinary vandalism, which unfortunately is prevalent on Wikipedia, but easily removed as soon as it is noticed. --ColinFine (talk) 21:49, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

tree fruiti or vegetable?

good morning: I watched one of the episodes of How its Made the other night and they were preserving some type of inside of a tree in jars and adding brine, can you tell me what this tree is called, what the name of the product is called, and where I may be able to purchase same in Ontario? thank you, —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.109.44.62 (talk) 15:35, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.9 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:45, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

RE: www.teachmyselfsmarts.com .biz, .net, .info and .org cannot be found

Hello. Our website www.teachmyselfsmarts.com cannot be found in your search engine. Is it possible for you to add us and in return we would be more than happy to display a llink or banner directing traffic from our website to yours, thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.250.155.31 (talk) 16:43, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Er....no, see WP:SPAM and WP:NOT. – ukexpat (talk) 17:10, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Removing an Unreviewed Article Tag

I have reviewed an article and would like to remove an Unreviewed Article tag. While logged-in, I clicked special:mypage/monobook.js and I installed importScript('User:Btilm/aw.js'). A tab is supposed to appear (-uat) that allows me to remove the unreviewed article tag, but now I'm stuck. I do not see this tag anywhere. Should it appear as a generic tag when I log-in? Should it appear on particular articles that contain the Unreviewed Article tag that I am in the process of reviewing?

Thanks for your help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shasta819 (talk • contribs) 16:59, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't think you saved the edit to your monobook.js file - the only edits showing up in your contributions are to this page. Also, make sure you are using the monobook skin. If you are using the (newish) vector default skin, you make the edit to Special:mypage/vector.js – ukexpat (talk) 17:15, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, UKexpat. I have successfully entered the -uat tab by entering the script into the monobook skin. But I'm stuck again. I'm trying to remove the Unreviewed Article tag for the educaedu article but when I click -uat, nothing happens. What are the steps that I need to do to get rid of that unreviewed template? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shasta819 (talk • contribs) 23:53, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

The easiest way is probably just to edit the article and remove {{New unreviewed article|date=December 2009}} from the top of the page. TNXMan 02:54, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Is there a place for heavier duty public article re-development work that provides both a project page and a talk page?

Let's say that editors on an article want to do a bigger, longer term project of redeveloping a section. And the want a workspace for the main draft (= a project page for the work) as well as a discussion page.) One can't do it as a sub article under the main article (while still having both a project page and a talk page). And one CAN do it as a subpage in their user space, but that doesn't seem like an appropriate place for such an effort. Is there another place to do something like this? North8000 (talk) 17:08, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

I'd do it in a user subpage, with a note on the talk page directing collaborators to said subpage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orangemike (talk • contribs) 15:07, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

User space is fine, as long as you take care to move the draft to article space rather than copy and paste it, so you will preserve the history. When multiple editors have contributed to the draft, we must preserve the history to comply with our licensing. That could cause problems if you want to re-work just one section out of a larger article this way. Another place to edit could be as a subpage of the most relevant WikiProject. However, why not just edit the article in place? You can put an {{Under construction}} template at the top of the section to warn readers about the potential mess. You can minimize the length of time that the section is messy by outlining what you want to do in some detail (on a user page), and then edit from the outline into the article proper. Since you did not tell us the name of the article or section, we can only give general advice which might not apply to your case. Also see WP:SUMMARY, WP:SPLIT, and WP:MERGE - if the section is big or needs to get big, maybe you could split the section into its own article. --Teratornis (talk) 21:50, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I have thought about this for about 6 articles. The challenge is that (in addition to the points I noted) the talk page is too transient, and there is typically no space on a talk page that is considered editable or "longer lived". On some I've been doing a "work around" by deliniating / setting up an "editable draft" section on a talk page. I can give lots of examples if anyone is interested, but am not writing this about any one article. Most of these are just where there is big complicated work needed rather than disputes. I screwed up once and tried creating one as a sub-article to a main article, and just thought I would ask to see if there is a place to do this that I didn't know about. Thanks again. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 01:31, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Devon and Cornwall Police Logo

I am trying to add this picture to the above articles infobox,though it is too big. Any value entered in the imagesize parameter of the infobox has no effect, please help :)Acather96 (talk) 20:34, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Worked for me, assuming that was the article to which you were referring. – ukexpat (talk) 20:47, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Pending revisions and edit-wars

This hasn't happened to me yet, but I was curious about what we're supposed to do about pending changes in an edit war. Let's say there are editors who are having a normal content dispute that doesn't involve BLP violations or vandalism. If I approve these changes, am I guilty of edit-warring, too? A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 20:55, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't know if there is an official answer to that yet. Of course, edit warring should be discouraged and the parties directed to the talk page, etc. But my take is that since approving changes isn't really adding or deleting content, it's not really taking part in an edit war. Just my two cents until there is something more consensus-driven in place. TNXMan 23:22, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Accepting a pending change from an unconfirmed user is taking responsibility for the content added in the same way as if you had added it. I have been in a couple of edit wars with pending changes and I found pending quite good in helping keep disputed content out of the article. If you are repeatedly accepting and therefore inserting disputed content to the article then technically yes you are also involved in the edit war. Off2riorob (talk) 23:26, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Hmm. Looking a little deeper, I see this list of edits that should not be accepted. 1. it conflicts with the Biographies of Living People policy 2. it contains vandalism or patent nonsense 3. it contains obvious copyright violations 4. it contains legal threats, personal attacks or libel. Nothing at WP:Reviewing really mentions edit warring. TNXMan 23:32, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Agreed there is nothing formed as yet, the understanding is increasing with the trial and I imagine when the inquest opens such issues just as this will be tweaked. I found that in such warring cases, passing good faith pending reviewers seeing the situation kept out of the way. Off2riorob (talk) 23:36, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Twinkle

Where does one use Twinkle? I can't figure this out. MR. PreZ 23:29, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

You can either go to the "My preferences" tab at the top of your page, click on Gadgets, and enable Twinkle from there or manually install it by following the instructions at this page. TNXMan 23:33, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

But how is it used? MR. PreZ 00:37, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Twinkle automates some Wikipedia features, like reporting vandalism/ inappropriate usernames, nominating things for deletion, or reverting edits. The main page gives an overview of a lot of its functions. It also automates some processes for admins. TNXMan 01:09, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

August 4

Rename

Can anybody rename File:6324640 e65159133a o.jpg to a better, suitable name. --Extra 999 (Contact ^me + _contribs) 04:36, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

The file is from Wikimedia Commons, not Wikipedia. Kayau Voting IS evil 04:41, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

OK. --Extra 999 (Contact ^me + _contribs) 04:46, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Strange edit by One bot

[5]: One bot doesn't look like a mathematician, because he seems to have gotten his dates wrong... Kayau Voting IS evil 04:46, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Correct, must revert. --Extra 999 (Contact ^me + _contribs) 04:50, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

How to update or replace existing photo in wikipedia?

Hi I would like to ask if it is possible to replace an old picture in one of the articles in wikipedia?If so, How do we go about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Airphilexpress (talk • contribs) 06:49, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

How do I edit?

Please tell me everything about editing (where to put templates, images, etc.)

I'm new here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moseyman (talk • contribs) 07:36, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi, and welcome. It sounds like the editing tutorial might be a good place to start - it'll walk you through the rudiments of editing. If you then have specific questions you're very welcome to come and ask them here. Is that what you were looking for? Gonzonoir (talk) 07:41, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

TELEPHONE NO. OF BANDRA SMALL CAUSES COURT

  I AM LOOKING FOR THE GTEL. NO. OF BANDRA NOT DHOBI TALAO SMALL CAUSES CORT BUT YOUR SITE ALSO FAILES TO PROVIDE TEL NO. MY E MAIL IS PRATIKSHA2002@HOTMAIL.COM CAN U SEND TEL  NO. IMMEDIATRELY? THANK YOU.