User talk:Hike395

Speedy deletion of Template:Geolinks-US-mountain

A tag has been placed on Template:Geolinks-US-mountain requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section T3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a deprecated or orphaned template. After seven days, if it is still unused and the speedy deletion tag has not been removed, the template will be deleted.

If the template is intended to be substituted, please feel free to remove the speedy deletion tag and please consider putting a note on the template's page indicating that it is substituted so as to avoid any future mistakes (<noinclude>{{transclusionless}}</noinclude>).

Thanks. RL0919 (talk) 12:27, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Shrub & scrub

I suppose there must be a difference between a shrub and a scrub. I use to translate into Esperanto : shrub in "arbedo" and scrub in "arbusto". In my opinion a shrub is quite a woody plant, but it has many stems from the ground. A scrub is similar but only partly or feebly woody, and generally smaller. Perhaps I am not right : english isn't my native tongue. --Forstbirdo (talk) 19:37, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"scrub" refers more to a type of vegetation - shrubs and grasses and other, usually dry-country, plants, e.g. sagebrush in particular but others also; it's not a plant, but a type of vegetation/landscape.....is sometimes used to refer to underbrush, but only in open forests and again usually in dry country, though areas of chapparal and manzanita in coastal climates are areas the term is also used for.Skookum1 (talk) 16:35, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Boundary peak lists

Just letting you know about List of peaks on the British Columbia-Alberta border and List of Boundary Peaks of the Alaska-British Columbia/Yukon border. I could use your help, or someone's help, with the BC-Alberta one; one issue is that at present I've listed them N-S by latitude, but that doesn't give the actual sequence of peaks as the boundary is pretty jagged and e.g. around Howse Pass takes a decided jag southwards from Howse Peak to Conway Peak (or is it Mount Conway??). See the generated Googlemap from that page and zoom in on various sections; I'd like to see them all sorted in sequence but it's gonna take some hunt-and-poke to sort out. There's also scads yet to go; see notes on its talkpage about how to find them in BCGNIS and pls note the large number which deserve to have articles, either because of who they're named for, their height/prominence, visibility/reputation or simply by dint of being boundary peaks. Ditto with unmade articles/redlinks on the Alaska-BC/Yukon list, which at least is in order because of the numbering sequence.....but lots like Mount Jette are major summits. Any time you could throw at these would be appreciated; my OCD was running on overdrive when I started them LOL.......Skookum1 (talk) 16:35, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mono-Inyo Craters at PR

If you have a moment and the inclination, you may want to comment at Wikipedia:Peer review/Mono-Inyo Craters/archive1. Thanks! --mav (Please help review Mono-Inyo Craters) 05:09, 30 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alpine Zone / Alpine zone redirect problem

Hi. I posted to Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ecology#Alpine_Zone_.2F_Alpine_zone:_Bad_redirects_need_fix:

Alpine Zone redirects to Tundra.
Alpine zone redirects to Alpine climate.
IMHO this is seriously broken behavior. Both of these should redirect to the same article (or we should have a standalone article on this topic.)
It might be a good idea to merge some existing content from these articles.

I'm contacting people who apparently worked on these. Would greatly appreciate your thoughts at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ecology#Alpine_Zone_.2F_Alpine_zone:_Bad_redirects_need_fix.
Thanks. -- Writtenonsand (talk) 21:01, 18 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

/Alpine tundra

archiving wikiproject mountain talk page

Hi. The second bot I added indexed the archive pages, it does not do the archiving itself unless I misunderstand something about how the second bot works. RedWolf (talk) 21:40, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Changes to Infobox mountain

Thanks for the heads up. I'll make a note to hang on on the talk page. I'm too sleepy to continue tonight so I'll start again tomorrow when I get a chance. –droll [chat] 10:30, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Too finally answer you question. Nothing will get truncated they just will not be allowed to be wider than the default sizes. –droll [chat] 10:35, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So the only changes I see are Elevation-->elevation and the addition of the traversed field. Is that right as far as you can remember. –droll [chat] 10:43, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hike395 is awarded the Wikipedia Barnstar

		The Original Barnstar
		Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia, especially for the articles you have created in association with WikiProject Mountians. Keep up the good work! Tea with toast (talk) 20:31, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mono-Inyo Craters to be put up for FAC soon

I think the article is ready now. Please take a look if you have time. Would you like to co-nom this FAC with me? Either way, your comments will be most welcome. See Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Mono-Inyo Craters/archive1 (I haven't listed it yet on the main FAC page, just in case you see a showstopper). --mav (Urgent FACs/FARs) 22:29, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Totally understand and I've listed this on FAC now. If you have a little bit of time, please add your comments on the FAC page. I'll address concerns. --mav (Urgent FACs/FARs) 00:45, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Font sizes

I've been messing with font size but I will not change things much form the way they are in /main. The existing version has a different font sizes for labels and data? I don't know if that was intentional or was it just an oversight but I think they should be the same.

The default font size that {{Infobox}} uses is 88%. Declaring a body font size relative to that and then declaring header, label and data font sizes relative to that all seems a bit convoluted. So I'm just trying make thing neater. It's probably not worth the time but I'm learning stuff an enjoying myself. Thanks for the input. –droll [chat] 08:05, 27 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That makes scene and its fine by me. Actually I didn't notice till I looked at the code. –droll [chat] 08:29, 27 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So last night I tried changing the font size for both both label and data to 93%. I don't think there is much lost. Take a look at the test cases and let me know what you think. –droll [chat] 04:07, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Now I have them both set to 95% and removed all padding from the cells. I've looked at it on the five major browsers on XP and it looks OK to me. I'm having network problems with my Ubuntu box so I can't check Linux right now. Let me know what you think. –droll [chat] 06:55, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

/Wolf Creek Pass /Woodall Mountain /Mount Logan

Commons category Sierra Nevada (USA)

I left a note for you on my talk page about a discussion on my Commons talk page but the discussion has moved to commons:Category talk:Sierra Nevada (USA). If you want to jump in please do. –droll [chat] 09:37, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

RFPP Kilaeua

VERY funny pun. I smiled immedietly. "Cooling off"...

Buggie111 (talk) 14:27, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This edit created problems with many mountain passes. Here is an example of the problem. Here is how you can fix it on all the articles, or you can try fixing the infobox. Aboutmovies (talk) 09:20, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wow - thanks!

Hey thanks! I just went to use citation bot and fix refs / fill in the doi on Mono-Inyo Craters, but you'd already done it. Wow! Thanks. Awickert (talk) 07:13, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Space below caption

Thanks or the heads-up about the commons thing. I'm not going to press the issue. The reason you are getting vertical space below the map or the caption if you use that parameter is because {{Location map}} wraps the block and the caption with 3px of margin and 3px of padding. See the second line in the source code. I've been working on that template in my user space for some time now but I don't think is ready for prime time yet. –droll [chat] 18:00, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A bug in Template:Infobox mountain

I left a note at Template_talk:Infobox_mountain#Problems_with_meters_to_feet_conversion. We need to talk about two of your changes to the template but its late now so I'm going to wait till tomorrow to write more. I don't mean to be one-sided about this. Its just the expedient way to get rid of the bug in hurry. –droll [chat] 05:19, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

font height.

Seems like the conversion just stoped about like height issue. When I was working on articles using AWB and it's Microsoft interface I saw some strange stuff like the label cell begin above the data cell. I don't think the split line font sizes are going to work well in the long run. I'm confident it would be fine in most browsers but then we are stuck with IE which gets a lot of use. I suggest we leave both sides at 95%. for now and move on. We'll probably come back to it latter. About the title line change. There has been no response today from that quarter so maybe it will just do away.

I've always wondered I you live in Bishop or the Owens valley somewhere. Every year start thinking about Mule days and the travel lust enters my heart. Seems I have been dreaming for the last ten years at least. But I never go. It's a good trip form where I live along the Columbia river to Bishop.

Well maybe I'll see you there some day if the good lord is willing and the creek don't rise. –droll [chat] 07:51, 18 March 2010 (UTC)Droll[reply]

Template:Convert and rounding

Hi!

I noticed your edit here - makes sense, but you might want to consider modifying the {{convert}} tag instead - it seems to have an option for rounding.

Reason I suggest this is, I can foresee potential for subtle vandalism - "60 to 70 °F" becoming "1500 to 2000 °C", for example (obviously, that's a contrived example - I suspect vandals would be far more subtle than me ;-)

No worries either way - like I said I understand your edit and agree with the intent, and there may well be reasons why {{convert}} wouldn't be appropriate - it's not a tag I've used much, and I've certainly never used the rounding facility...

Cheers, TFOWR^{This flag once was red} 09:13, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the suggestion. I've implemented it where I could. The main problem is that the convert template cannot round to 5 °C. When Americans round their °F to 10, I believe the rest of the world would round the temperature to the nearest 5 °C. So, I was forced to do a manual conversion :-(. —hike395 (talk) 09:25, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Dziękujemy and obrigado :-). —hike395 (talk)

No problem. Manual conversion makes sense in this case - these tags aren't always as useful as they could be!

Oh, and is that Polish? I've listed "Polish" in my "Babel boxes" - but only because I posted once on pl.wiki - my knowledge of the language is zero (I used an online translation tool!)

Cheers, TFOWR^{This flag once was red} 09:34, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Geology of the Rocky Mountains

Hi there! You asked me a loooong time ago about the Geology of the Rocky Mts. article. From a first read-through, it seems to do a pretty nice job of explaining the geological evolution of the US and Canadian Rockies (which have different origins) in a degree of complexity good for a random Wikipedia reader. There are a few geology-type things that I will be fixing in the next few days, but nothing too big. Overall, it is a good article!

If there is anything that you want to work on big-picture-wise or otherwise, I would be happy to lend a hand, answer questions, etc. I'm plowing away through my to-do list on WP in prep for a wikibreak, as research and summer fun are starting to pick up. Awickert (talk) 02:51, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for checking --- I'm an amateur geologist, so I really appreciate a professional looking over my shoulder for a sanity check. I just expanded the Geology section over at Sierra Nevada (U.S.): if you do have a few minutes to check, I would be grateful.

A summer wikibreak! That sounds like an excellent idea: maybe I should do that. —hike395 (talk) 13:30, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It won't be an official "wikibreak", but I will be spending less time here. I think it will be good.

Sure - I'll look at the Sierra Nevada too. Awickert (talk) 16:56, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yosemite National Park

Hi. I've been noticing that the Yosemite National Park article is getting over burdened with pictures (at least in my opinion). I'm a terrible coward when it comes to this sort cleanup. Most of the pictures are relevant and of good quality (I really like the marmot). I'm wondering if you are willing to take on the task. The Yosemite Valley article is getting crowded as well. –droll [chat] 05:17, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Droll. I'm happy to cleanup those articles. I think you have a great reputation here at WP: you do many edits to articles in my watchlist, and I don't double-check, because I know you get everything right. In general, feel free to be bold and fix anything you see wrong. —hike395 (talk) 13:30, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Good job. I think some of us are better at some things than others. What you did I would struggle over. –droll [chat] 19:46, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer granted

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Trolling/SockpuppetryI saw enough. I opened a SPI case (Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/71.219.177.7). I hope the I did not mess up your way of tackling it. --Chris.urs-o (talk) 08:55, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]artificial altitudeHi, the article on altitude training discusses creating artificial high altitude conditions by altering the oxygen/nitrogen ratio. I thought it would be appropriate to add links to methods to accomplish this. Perhaps my choices were not the best, but I could find no better. I think having links about how it is or can be done would be of interest to some people interested in this subject. Maybe you can find better references. --AJim (talk) 22:47, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]Re: Infobox mountainHello. You have a new message at droll's talk page. /High mountain listDeserts of CaliforniaHi, thanks for changing article title to Deserts of California, less "tourist region" sounding and much better for type of info it contains. ---Look2See1 t a l k → 06:45, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]Flickr reviewingHello, and thank you for your application to be a flickr reviewer. The application has been removed as successful, and you've been added to the list of reviewers. Congratulations! Please see commons:Commons:Flickr images if you haven't done so already, and the backlogs at commons:Category:Flickr images needing human review and commons::Category:Flickr review needed. A helpful script for easy-tagging flickr images is at importScript('User:Patstuart/Flickrreview.js'); (which you can add to your monobook.js), and you can add {{user reviewer}} or {{user trusted}} to your user page if you wish. Thank you for your work on Commons! :) fr33kman ^-simpleWP- 03:12, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]Outer layer of Infobox mountain now obsolete?Hello. You have a new message at Droll's talk page. –droll [chat] 17:42, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply] /Oak Creek Canyon /OldInfoboxCoordWhat happened?OK. I synchronized {{Infobox valley/sandbox}} with {{Infobox valley}} and fixed it so the sandbox version uses the sandbox version of {{Infobox coord}}. I cannot reproduce the bug you mentioned. Could you describe for me what you noticed. In reply to you question about {{infobox mountain}}. There were no articles that used the old parameter names the last I checked. That was more than a week ago. I asked for an opinion and you can find the the answer I got at Help talk:Template#Questions about old parameter names and templates. –droll [chat] 22:17, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]I tweaked your sandbox version at {{Infobox mountain/main/sandbox}}. See this diff. After you take a look, go to Template talk:Infobox mountain#Fix bug in calling Infobox coord and remove the tl from the edit editprotected template. As I mentioned on my talk page Infobox coord defaults to dms and inline,title. Thanks.Funny thing is the display parameter has never be used. I didn't check to see if format was ever used. A while ago, I checked border and it was never used. –droll [chat] 23:25, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]About the generic landform infobox ideaI was working on {{Infobox valley}}. There's stuff in the sandbox. Are you familiar with the modular design in software. I created {{Infobox landform}} as a possible generic geologic infobox. I still have some ideas. –droll [chat] 17:39, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]Hm. Other that the extreme bloatedness of the template and ugliness of the result, wasn't that what {{Geobox}} was supposed to do? {{Geobox}} may have been too general, though -- it sounds like you are proposing combining just natural landforms. Which ones are you thinking of? —hike395 (talk) 20:45, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]I would never repeat the geobox thing. I'm thinking about a meta template where a template that transcluded it could create there own labels. So each template would have a degree of independence. It would be transparent to the template user.The idea is to centralize. Bug prone code would be in one place rather than distributed. It would also facilitate a common look and feel. For example {{Infobox mountain pass}} currently uses Infobox mountain as a meta template. I'm thinking that we can't just keep adding cells to Infobox mountain to satisfy related templates like Infobox valley, glacier, etc. I'll work up a simple version in in my user space and see if it flies.I created {{Infobox landform}} because there are geological features that don't fit into a general category (like mountain, lake, valley, ...). Thinks its worth a try.P.S. Lets talk on your page. This jumping around is making me dizzy. If I don't reply within a reasonable time you could use the {{wb}} template on my page. –droll [chat] 23:58, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]I like the idea of centralizing code. The downfall of geobox, I think, is its extreme generality. Given that it tries to cover all possible geographical entities, it doesn't check for parameter sanity. So, neophytes fill Geoboxes with all sorts of odd junk. I think that the underlying general code should be shared, but shielded so that only sane parameters are used for each type of landform.For example, the "lowest" parameter is quite ambiguous for mountains and ranges, not so for valleys and rivers. I tried to explain this to Caroig when he was creating Geobox, but he didn't listen, and the code for Geobox was so complex that I could not edit it, and had to rely on Caroig. That was very frustrating. And, to this day, I have to put up with IP editors misusing those parameters.Hopefully we can fix this with {{Infobox landform}}. Looking forward to the results of your efforts! —hike395 (talk) 03:11, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]Thanks for the encouragement. I'm working on the mountain map sandbox just now. I want to get the superimpose thing back. As usual I'm over-thinking it. The problem with using pixel coordinates is that the location of the marker moves if the image is re sized. The Germans introduced the idea of using relative coordinates. I'm thinking of writing another template that would do the conversion for the editor. Oh well, sounds convoluted. –droll [chat] 14:59, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]Template:Infobox glacierI worked on {{Infobox glacier}} for awhile today. I noticed that you where there before me. Fixed a problem with text alignment of the coordinates cell and a problem with the coordinate reference always wrapping to the next line. I generally got obsessive all over it. I added two alternate parameter names and changed the documentation. They are photo_width and map_width since it is the width that the user specifies. I didn't really change anything really basic. I worked some on code readability which I probably worry to much about. –droll [chat] 22:41, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]Yes, I saw that you worked on it. Looks good! —hike395 (talk) 23:35, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]Thanks. –droll [chat] 05:46, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]Northern borderAny chance someone could come up with a better description of the northern boundary of the Sierra? "Fredonyer Pass and the Susan River" comprise a very small slice (about 14 miles worth) of that boundary. Kmmontandon (talk) 17:07, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]