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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on August 13

St Albans by-election, 1943

... that at the St Albans by-election in October 1943, John Grimston was elected without a vote after his opponent William Douglas-Home missed the deadline for nominations?

Created by BrownHairedGirl (talk). Nominated by BrownHairedGirl (talk) at 19:52, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If length is an issue, save 8 characters by omitting the word "October". --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:54, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Johnny B. Moore

... that the American electric blues guitarist, singer and songwriter, Johnny B. Moore, was once described as "one of Chicago's interesting secrets" ?

Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Self nom at 18:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Roberto Cantoral

... that versions of Roberto Cantoral's songs have been recorded over 1,000 times by other artists like Placido Domingo, José José, Luis Miguel, Joan Báez and Linda Ronstadt? New, created by Mjs1991 (talk) and moreno oso (talk) Nominated by Antandrus (talk) 18:41, 13 August 2010 (UTC)) [reply]

ALT1 ... that Roberto Cantoral donated the proceeds from "Pobre navidad" to worldwide children institutions such as UNICEF and his song, "Plegaria de paz" was broadcast "three consecutive years at the Vatican"?

ALT2 ... that Roberto Cantoral won the Latin Grammy Trustee Award and received medals of merit from Adolfo López Mateos and Tito?

Roy Carrier

... that Zydeco musician Roy Carrier started out playing La La on a frottoir?

Created by Arakunem (talk). Self nom at 17:46, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article links "la la" and "frottoir". They could be linked in the hook, but then readers might not go to the main article, which is rather the point. If the hook is too whimsical I've got a couple others that would work. Arakunem^Talk 17:49, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

BioShock Infinite

... that BioShock Infinite, Irrational Games' next title in the video game series, is set during 1912 in a giant air-borne city constructed at the height of American exceptionalism?

Created by Masem (talk). Self nom at 16:48, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Britain's Economy: Cameron and Clegg Face the Audience

... that the television programme Britain's Economy: Cameron and Clegg Face the Audience, aired on 23 June 2010, marked the first joint interview with David Cameron and Nick Clegg since forming the coalition government following the 2010 general election the previous month.?

Created by TheRetroGuy (talk). Nominated by TheRetroGuy (talk) at 13:51, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ida Siekmann

... that Ida Siekmann, the first casualty at the Berlin wall, died after she jumped out of her third floor apartment at Bernauer Strasse ?

Created by HerkusMonte (talk). Self nom at 13:48, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ex parte Crow Dog

... that the Supreme Court ruled that an Indian could not be tried for killing another Indian in Ex parte Crow Dog, resulting the passage of the Major Crimes Act?

Created/expanded by GregJackP (talk). Self nom at 12:46, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Should probably consider an ALT hook clarifying that it's the U.S. Supreme Court. I added bold/italics mark-up to the article name. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:09, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

William Carlile

... that the British Conservative Party politician William Carlile owned Gayhurst House in Buckinghamshire, which had been the home of one of the conspirators in the Gunpowder Plot?

Created by BrownHairedGirl (talk). Nominated by BrownHairedGirl (talk) at 12:38, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ivar Eskeland

... that Ivar Eskeland was accomplished as a philologist, publisher, translator, biographer, literary critic, newspaper editor, theatre worker, radio personality and organizational leader?

Comment: Sheer broadth of his accomplishments astounded me, though most have to do with philology.

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 11:23, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Putnam County Courthouse (Ohio)

... that the Putnam County Courthouse (pictured) in Ottawa, Ohio, built in 1912, was intended to be a landmark in the year 2000?

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 03:48, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Commons In case you don't like this picture, there are eight others available at Commons:Category:Putnam County Courthouse (Ohio). Nyttend (talk) 03:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Saint Meinhard

... that the first stone building (pictured) in Latvia was a church and a fortress of Ikšķile built by missionary Saint Meinhard in 1185–1186?

Created by Renata3 (talk). Self nom at 03:29, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hook length, reference, article length and date all ok.--Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 12:26, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Slight wording change. Renata (talk) 13:51, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Prince Gabriel of Thurn and Taxis

... that after Prince Gabriel of Thurn and Taxis was killed in action at the Battle of Stalingrad in 1942, he was succeeded by Prince Johannes as heir presumptive to the Head of the Princely House of Thurn and Taxis?

Created by Caponer (talk). Self nom at 03:17, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

San Giovanni del Toro

... that the 11th-century church of San Giovanni del Toro (pictured) in Ravello, Italy, has a pulpit with Arabic script and motives which inspired the geometric drawings of M.C. Escher?

Created/expanded by Drmies (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 02:52, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Russia–Zambia relations

... that during the 1980s more than half of the personnel of the Soviet embassy in Zambia (pictured) were KGB and GRU agents?

5x expanded by Russavia (talk). Nominated by Russavia (talk) at 01:40, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

MV Geysir

... that MV Geysir (pictured) was the center of a series of international incidents that involved Antonin Scalia, Ruth Bader Ginsberg, Ken Starr, Elizabeth Dole, George Schultz and Ronald Reagan?

Created by Haus (talk). Self nom at 01:24, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Minor ce comment -- you may want to change one instance of "involved" to another word.--Epeefleche (talk) 03:25, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nice catch, fixed. Haus^Talk 03:44, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 12

Richard Atwood Glass

... that Sir Richard Glass, who was knighted for his part in creating the first Transatlantic telegraph cable, lasted only a few months as an MP?

Created by Motmit (talk). Self nom at 19:18, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kickapoo Joy Juice

... that Kickapoo Joy Juice was a fictional alcoholic beverage on a comic strip before it was produced in real life as a soft drink?

Created by Arbitrarily0 (talk). Self nom at 17:28, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Freemasons Tavern, Hove

... that the Freemasons Tavern in Hove, with its elaborate mosaic exterior (pictured) decorated with Masonic symbols, is "reminiscent of the Viennese Secession"?

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 12:01, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hook length, article length and date all ok. Offline reference accepted in good faith. A beautiful building, an interesting article. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 13:58, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ludwig von Wurmb

... that Ludwig von Wurmb (pictured), a general from Hesse-Kassel during the Napoleonic Wars, was known as the "bitter Wurmb" to distinguish him from his siblings?

Created by Magicpiano (talk). Self nom at 02:13, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

... that the design of the Shield nickel (pictured) symbolizes the strength of the federal government through the unity of the states?

5x expanded by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 01:09, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Organelle biogenesis

... that the distinct structures of different cellular organelles may be the effects of the differing mechanics of the many proteins that create them during organelle biogenesis?

Created by Tyrol5 (talk). Self nom at 22:17, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Van Alen Building

... that a seagull dropping a lit cigarette it had mistaken for food may have caused a fire which wrecked a £750,000 penthouse at Brighton's Van Alen Building (pictured)?

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 19:40, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Christopher Nugent (Medal of Honor)

... that Christopher Nugent was only the third United States Marine to receive the Medal of Honor?

Created by Kumioko (talk). Self nom at 19:13, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that United States Marine Christopher Nugent received the Medal of Honor for military action in Florida?

Pure blood theory in Korea

... that the pure blood theory in Korea says that all Koreans descend from a single, purest and cleanest source of ancestors?

Created by Winstonlighter (talk). Nominated by Derild4921 (talk) at 18:36, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Philip Hayes (general)

... that while serving as the Hawaiian Department of the U. S. Army chief of staff, Philip Hayes warned about the possibility of a sneak attack on Pearl Harbor by Japan?

Created by Nsk92 (talk). Self nom at 17:34, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Great Comet of 1264 and Great Comet of 1556

... that the astronomers believe that the Great Comet of 1264 (pictured) and the Great Comet of 1556 were the same comet?

Created by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 16:41, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hang Nga guesthouse

... that the Antoni Gaudí-inspired "Crazy House" in Da Lat, Vietnam has been variously compared to the works of Salvador Dali and Walt Disney?

5x expanded by Dragfyre (talk). Self nom at 16:40, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Great pic, great place (been there). I could go either way on whether we need to include "variously".--Epeefleche (talk) 17:18, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Eduard Folayang

... that prior to becoming a mixed martial artist, Eduard Folayang was a high school teacher?

Created by Joaquin008 (talk). Self nom at 16:04, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article too short, only 994 bytes. Also, he started training at age 16, so perhaps hook should read "professional mixed martial artist". Good idea to link mixed martial artist as well. Sasata (talk) 16:46, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that before becoming a professional mixed martial artist, Eduard Folayang was a high school teacher?

Hook length, article length & date all ok now. Small hook tweak: changed "prior to" to "before". Sasata (talk) 03:23, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Prince George of Prussia

... that because Prince George produced many of his plays under pseudonyms, much of his audiences were unaware a Prussian prince was behind them?

Created by Ruby2010 (talk). Self nom at 14:50, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that at the time of his death, Prince George of Prussia was the oldest living member of the House of Hohenzollern?

Arthur Black (Liberal politician)

... that the English lace manufacturer and Liberal Party politician Sir Arthur Black donated two homes in Nottingham to the National Children's Home?

ALT1:... that in 1930 the Nottingham lace manufacturer and Liberal Party politician Sir Arthur Black described himself as a free trader, but opposed the lifting of import duties on lace?

Created by BrownHairedGirl (talk). Nominated by BrownHairedGirl (talk) at 14:23, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oluf Falck-Ytter

... that while being stipendiary magistrate in Sarpsborg, Oluf Falck-Ytter edited the newspaper Glommen anonymously?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 13:35, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Holy Trinity Church, Coverham

... that the lintel over the doorway of Holy Trinity Church, Coverham, North Yorkshire, (pictured) consists of a re-used Anglo-Saxon cross shaft?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 12:56, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

George P. MacNichol House, Ford-Bacon House

... that in 1896, Edward Ford built the 32-room George P. MacNichol House for his daughter, and the next year built the 27-room Ford-Bacon House (pictured) across the street for himself?

Created by Andrew Jameson (talk). Nominated by Andrew Jameson (talk) at 10:43, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Double nom for two articles. Pertinent information (builder, date, # of rooms, location) can be found here for the Ford-Bacon House and here for the George P. MacNichol House. Andrew Jameson (talk) 10:48, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Refs, hooks, date, length all check out. Had a slight doubt the Bacon Library ref might be considered WP:PRIMARY. Si Trew (talk) 07:42, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Temple House Manor and Castle

... that Temple House Manor and Castle belonged to descendants of Sir Percival, a Knight of the Round Table?

Created by Marcelivan (talk). Nominated by Fridae'sDoom (talk) at 07:56, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of accolades received by Up

... that the film Up is the second animated film in receive the nomination for the Academy Award for Best Picture after the Beauty and the Beast?

Created by Tbhotch (talk). Self nom at 03:38, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Palila v. Hawaii Department of Land and Natural Resources

A yellow-crested bird sits among foilage.

... that the court descision in Palila v. Hawaii saved the Palila (pictured), a critically endangered bird, from possible extinction?

Created by Resident Mario (talk). Nominated by Resident Mario (talk) at 03:27, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: If the name is too long, i think shortening it to Palila v. Hawaii would be acceptable. The article is based mostly on a pay-per-view JSTOR article, I can send it to the nominator if needed. ResMar 03:27, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hamdog

... that Dr. Nicholas Lang of the University of Arkansas advised against ever consuming a hamdog at any point in one's lifetime?

Created by Editorofthewiki (talk). Self nom at 02:32, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Taylor (quarterback)

... that Michael Taylor led Michigan to consecutive Big Ten football championships and became the school's all-time leader in passing efficiency?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 01:53, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 11

Mikhail Khilkov

Prince Mikhail Ivanovich Khilkov

... that Prince Mikhail Ivanovich Khilkov retired from the post of Minister of Communications due to his inability to stop the railway workers' strike during the Russian Revolution of 1905 ?

Created by DonaldDuck (talk). Nominated by Maashatra11 (talk) at 20:00, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Slav Epic

... that the City of Prague has waged a decade-long legal battle over the Slav Epic cycle of paintings (pictured) with the town of Moravský Krumlov?

ALT1:... that the Slav Epic cycle of paintings (pictured) by Alfons Mucha consists of 20 canvases, up to six metres tall and eight metres wide?
Comment: A new article created from an old redirect.

Created by Vejvančický (talk), Vmeruck (talk). Nominated by Vejvančický (talk) at 12:55, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tang Rimochen Lhakhang

Taag Rimochen Lhakhang

... that religious master Longchen Rabjam (pictured) had forseen Tang Rimochen Lhakhang in Bhutan in a vision?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 09:54, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Added an img.-- N.V.V. Char ^Talk. 13:23, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hook is sourced to the book I have right in front of me. Dr. Blofeld 09:55, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tim Maypray

... that Montreal Alouettes kick returner Tim Maypray has returned a missed field goal for a touchdown twice in 2010 - both against the Saskatchewan Roughriders?

Created by Canada Hky (talk). Self nom at 01:34, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

William Jackson, 1st Baron Jackson

... that the British Labour Party politician William Jackson had been injured in the Battle of the Somme?

Created by BrownHairedGirl (talk). Nominated by BrownHairedGirl (talk) at 01:22, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date and article length verified, hook length OK, hook fact verified; offline source accepted per AGF. Nsk92 (talk) 14:33, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1887 Sonora earthquake

... that although the epicenter of the 1887 Sonora earthquake was in Mexico, it was the only historical earthquake to cause considerable damage in Arizona?

Created by Mikenorton (talk). Self nom at 23:09, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go Thelmadatter (talk) 18:46, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Aransas City, Texas

... that the port of Aransas City lost its customhouse after Texas President Mirabeau B. Lamar (pictured) relocated it to the self-named town of Lamar?

Created by William S. Saturn (talk). Self nom at 22:38, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- ready. Dincher (talk) 00:07, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chew the fat

... that a 1999 internet hoax led people to believe that a wealthy family in the 16th century would share bacon (pictured) with their guests so they could sit around and "chew the fat"?

Created by Theornamentalist (talk). Nominated by Theornamentalist (talk) at 22:00, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- ready. Dincher (talk) 00:09, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New Zealanders

... that the first New Zealanders were Eastern Polynesians, who are thought to have arrived in New Zealand around 750 years ago?

5x expanded by City of Destruction (talk). Self nom at 21:30, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that over three-quarters of the New Zealand-born population living outside of New Zealand is in Australia?
ALT2: ... that New Zealanders are colloquially known as Kiwis?
Not with alt2 - too many readers will find it too trivial. Materialscientist (talk) 10:08, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that's a matter of judgement. In any case, hopefully the first suggestion or ALT1 is suitable. City of Destruction 17:26, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Smaalenenes Amtstidende

... that Smaalenenes Amtstidende was the first newspaper in Østfold county, Norway?

Comment: The fact is mentioned twice, but cited once -- the last time.

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 21:25, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Russian cutter Opyt (1806)

... that when Lieutenant Nevelskoy of the 14-gun Opyt surrendered to Captain Bathurst of the 42-gun frigate HMS Salsette, Bathurst returned Nevelskoy's sword because of the heroic fight he had put up?

Created by Acad Ronin (talk). Self nom at 21:10, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Berman's Bakery

... that Berman's Bakery, Israel's second-largest, got its start by peddling black bread and honey cakes to Christian pilgrims on their way to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre?

Created by Yoninah (talk). Self nom at 20:20, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Angel Bakeries

... that Angel Bakeries is the sole supplier of hamburger buns for McDonald's restaurants in Israel?

Created by Yoninah (talk). Self nom at 20:16, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- ready to go. Dincher (talk) 00:11, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Parrot Corporation Limited

... that the now defunct company Parrot Corporation Limited was the first attempt at establishing a fully indigenous manufacturer of computer floppy disks in Britain, but collapsed due to alleged fraud and caused a British political controversy?

Created by Mulletsrokkify (talk). Self nom at 19:49, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The hook is too long, at the moment ... suggest a shave.--Epeefleche (talk) 02:58, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ludvig Stoud Platou, Carl Nicolai Stoud Platou

... that one of the textbooks written by Ludvig Stoud Platou was reissued fifteen times, seven of which by his son Carl Nicolai?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 19:32, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kip Anderson

... that the American soul blues singer, Kip Anderson, used "A Knife and a Fork" as a warning concerning his girlfriend's food consumption?

Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Self nom at 19:15, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Prince Heinrich XXII Reuss of Greiz

... that to show his opposition to Wilhelm II, Heinrich XXII, Prince Reuss of Greiz forbade any demonstrations of mourning for the deaths of emperors Wilhelm I and Frederick III?

Created by Ruby2010 (talk). Nominated by User:Ruby2010 (talk) at 17:13, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tuesday's Child (Holby City)

... that "Tuesday's Child", an episode of the BBC medical drama Holby City, was filmed entirely on location in Ghana, to explore African culture for UK audiences?

Created by Frickative (talk). Self nom at 17:15, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SMS Wien

... that the Austro-Hungarian coastal defense ship SMS Wien was the only ship from the Monarch-class to be sunk during World War I?

Created by White Shadows (talk). Nominated by White Shadows (talk) at 16:23, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed the italics and added a wikilink for you. Manxruler (talk) 20:32, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length and move date verified, offline hook accepted in good faith. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 00:30, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Eric Berry (actor)

... that Eric Berry played the part of Charles in Pippin for six years?

Created by Cryptic C62 (talk). Self nom at 16:10, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- looks good, AGF offline ref Adabow (talk · contribs) 06:13, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Van Wert Bandstand

... that the Van Wert Bandstand (pictured) is the only extant historic bandstand in western Ohio?

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 15:47, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- ready to go. Dincher (talk) 00:14, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Family 1739

... that the textual Family 1739 could represents the Caesarean text-type in the Pauline epistles and Catholic epistles?

5x expanded by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 13:46, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Richard "Popcorn" Wylie

... that songwriter and producer Popcorn Wylie allowed his children to play frisbee with old singles he had worked on, before he became aware of their value to collectors of Northern soul records?

Created by Ghmyrtle (talk). Self nom at 12:06, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 12:47, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John Gordon Drummond Campbell

... that the British Conservative Member of Parliament (MP) John Gordon Drummond Campbell had been an educational adviser to King Chulalongkorn of Siam?

5x expanded by Charles Matthews (talk) and BrownHairedGirl (talk). Nominated by BrownHairedGirl (talk) at 11:33, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jeremy Bamber

... that of 38 prisoners in the UK the Home Secretary has said will never be released, Jeremy Bamber—convicted in 1986 of murdering his family in White House Farm (pictured)—is the only one known to protest his innocence?

5 x expanded by SlimVirgin. Self nom at 04:55, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: For anyone checking this, the source is Smith, David James. "And by dawn they were all dead", The Sunday Times Magazine, 11 July 2010, p. 18 of the magazine, p. 3 of the article. Smith writes: "Bamber is unique. He is one of only 38 convicted killers in the country who have been given a whole-life tariff, which means they will never be released ... So far as I can ascertain, he is the only one of the 38 who claims to be innocent." SlimVirgin ^{talk|contribs} 05:08, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rinzin Dorji

... that Rinzin Dorji is the first Bhutanese runner to run alongside international runners from all over the world

Created by Spongie555 (talk). Self nom at , 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Paulding County Courthouse (Ohio)

... that Ohio's Paulding County Courthouse (pictured) was patterned after Michigan's Lenawee County Courthouse?

5x expanded by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 03:21, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- ready to go. Dincher (talk) 00:18, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Witch window

... that a Vermont window (pictured) keeps witches out?

alt: ... that witches cannot fly through a Vermont window (pictured)? Created by Piledhigheranddeeper (talk). Self nom at 01:05, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Both hooks, along with much of the rest of the article, are dependent on this webpage; it's a forum, not a reliable source. Nyttend (talk) 03:23, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Many more references added, and an alternative DYK (which might be Halloween-ed):

... that a Vermont window (pictured) lets coffins through, but keeps witches out?

Better: "is designed to keep witches out?" Because we don't actually know if it works, do we. DS (talk) 12:54, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'd put the "designed" in front of both coffins and witches ("is designed to let coffins through, but keep witches out"), if it was in at all. But has anybody ever seen a witch inside one? (It's a great DYK, though—crazy picture)--JingleJim (talk) 18:58, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ready to go: the print sources look to be fine, and there aren't any other problems that I can see. ~~Could we postpone this until Halloween?~~ Nyttend (talk) 22:16, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I vote against waiting until Halloween when it will be one of many "spooky" hooks. It would catch more attention in August. Dincher (talk) 00:20, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Very good point; I've stricken my previous comment. Nyttend (talk) 00:54, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Both Respirator, Edward Both

... that Australian Edward Both invented the Both Respirator – an iron lung made from wood – to fight a polio epidemic in 1937?

Created by Bilby (talk). Nominated by Bilby (talk) at 16:45, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 10

List of Hebrew Bible manuscripts

... that the first List of Hebrew Bible manuscripts (pictured) was created by Benjamin Kennicott (1776-1780), since that time it has been expanded several times?

Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 17:47, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Admonitions Scroll

... that the British Museum's copy of the Chinese Admonitions Scroll (pictured) is missing two scenes which are recorded in a museum in the Forbidden City?

Comment: Alt hooks welcomed

Created by BabelStone (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 08:04, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mana by-election, 2010

... that the Mana by-election, 2010 was caused by the resignation of Winnie Laban (pictured), who has been appointed as the Assistant Vice Chancellor of Victoria University of Wellington?

Created by Adabow (talk), IdiotSavant (talk), F (talk). Self nom at 06:09, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nelson Stacy

... that American stock car racer Nelson Stacy lost the closest season points battle in ARCA history before winning the next three championships?

Created by Royalbroil (talk), Pdesil (talk). Nominated by Royalbroil (talk) at 04:22, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Al Deira hotel

... that the Al Deira is the "best hotel" in Gaza?

created by AMuseo, talk. Self nom Al Deira hotel| 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Marinens Flyvebaatfabrikk M.F.1

... that in 1915 the Marinens Flyvebaatfabrikk M.F.1 (pictured) became the first type of aircraft to be produced by the Royal Norwegian Navy Air Service's aircraft factory Marinens Flyvebaatfabrikk?

Created by Oceanh (talk), Manxruler (talk). Self nom at 23:15, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ida Bobach

... that Danish orienteer Ida Bobach won three gold medals at the 2010 Junior World Orienteering Championships?

ALT1:... that Danish orienteer Ida Bobach won three gold medals at the 2010 Junior World Orienteering Championships, winning the sprint, the long course and the relay?
ALT2:... that Danish orienteer Ida Bobach has competed in the Junior World Orienteering Championships five years in a row, starting from 2006?

Created by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 19:54, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date, hooks all work, image appears free. I like the main hook best. The word orienteer should probably be linked in the hook since much of the audience won't be very familiar with the sport. This should probably wait until the 2010 World Orienteering Championships are over in case new updates are required, but the current backlog will probably take care of that. Also - especially as her most notable feats are age group exploits - it would be great to have a birth date. Sideways713 (talk) 17:34, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Servoss House

... that the Servoss House (pictured), on the Erie Canal outside Medina, New York, uses an unusual structural system consisting of stacked wooden planks?

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 16:39, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1991 Racha earthquake

... that the 1991 Racha earthquake was the most powerful ever recorded in the Caucasus?

5x expanded by Mikenorton (talk). Self nom at 07:00, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date and 5x+ expansion verified, hook length OK, hook fact verified. Nsk92 (talk) 14:43, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1962 National League tie-breaker series

... that the top three finishers in 1962 MVP award voting - Maury Wills, Willie Mays, and Tommy Davis - all played in the 1962 National League tie-breaker series?

Created by Staxringold (talk). Self nom at 04:05, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 ... that San Francisco Giants' manager Alvin Dark removed his starting pitcher Jack Sanford from Game 2 of the 1962 National League tie-breaker series because Sanford was "pooped"?

Both good; the immature high-schooler inside me leans toward the second hook, but I also think it's more "hooky" than the first. — KV5 • Talk • 01:14, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Palacio de la Autonomía

... that the Palacio de la Autonomía in Mexico City is where the Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México gained autonomy from direct government control?

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 01:04, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I added bold mark-up around the hook article. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:42, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Size and date OK. Although the www.oem.com.mx ref does say that the university gained independence in 1929, it doesn't say it actually took place in this building - although this could be in an offline ref. However, the sentence containing the hook isn't specifically ref'd and should be. Regards, Simon Burchell (talk) 14:51, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed... the fact is from the other newspaper article... I cant believe I forgot to include it in the history section.Thelmadatter (talk) 16:12, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verified. Nice article. Simon Burchell (talk) 17:05, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Star Carr house

... that the Star Carr house in North Yorkshire, England, was built by Stone Age hunters 10,500 years ago and is the oldest dwelling ever found in Britain?

Created and self-nominated by ChrisO (talk) 22:16, 10 August 2010 (UTC) [reply]

Good to go Thelmadatter (talk) 01:07, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Candace Nelson

... that pastry chef Candace Nelson opened the world's first cupcake-only bakery?

Created by Tommy2010 (talk). Self nom at 21:32, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Simpsons Cartoon Studio

... that the cast members of The Simpsons provided their voices for The Simpsons Cartoon Studio, a computer program released in 1996 that lets users create their own Simpsons cartoons?

5x expanded by Theleftorium (talk). Nominated by Theleftorium (talk) at 21:19, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sophie Le Marchand

... that Somerset's Sophie Le Marchand (pictured) has taken three stumpings in an innings twice in women's Twenty20 cricket?

Created by Harrias (talk). Self nom at 20:33, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Long Island Board of Rabbis

... that the 59-year-old President of the Long Island Board of Rabbis was arrested with 21 other rabbis for taking part in a sit-in opposite the United Nations in 2007?

Created by --Epeefleche (talk) 19:49, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Harold Ginsberg

... that research by Dr. Harold Ginsberg on adenoviruses led to the development of gene therapy, in which modified versions of the virus can be used to implant healthy versions of genes to treat disease?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 18:00, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chimi Lhakhang and Phallus paintings in Bhutan

... that it is customary at Chimi Lhakhang to strike female pilgrims on the head with a 10 inch wooden phallus (penis) and that the monastery features paintings of erect penises (pictured) on its walls?

Created by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 17:20, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Double article nom. Surely this is one of the most bizarre DYKs ever! Dr. Blofeld 17:22, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

St John's Church, Throapham

... that the font dating from about 1300 in St John's Church, Throapham, South Yorkshire, (pictured), depicts human faces from the three continents that were known at the time of its carving?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 17:06, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- nice work, I love the picture. Dincher (talk) 23:49, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Trade unions in Colombia

... that in Colombia there were 2,832 murders of trade unionists between 1 January 1986 and 30 April 2010, making it the most dangerous country in the world in which to be a trade unionist?

Created by Rd232 (talk). Self nom at 16:38, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Neither of the links was bolded, so I bolded the second one. I moved "the most dangerous country in the world" out of the piped link under WP:EGG, since the article is not primarily about their danger. Si Trew (talk) 07:51, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, the article is primarily about how dangerous it is there to be a trade unionist. Which begs the question whether the article is properly titled or gives undue weight to this aspect of trade unionism in Columbia. Si Trew (talk) 07:55, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well of course the article should eventually go into more detail about history, politics, etc of trade unions in Colombia. But the dangers of being a trade unionist in Colombia are by far the most prominent aspect of the topic. Rd232 ^talk 07:59, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, and we can't expect new articles to be fully fleshed out. The point is, that, until then, whether the article should be entitled "Dangers of trade unionism in Columbia" or something like that. Otherwise it seems to give undue weight. Si Trew (talk) 08:39, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I have expanded it, and anyway the article was always intended to be the Colombia article in the "trade unions in..." series (see nav template at bottom of the article). Rd232 ^talk 10:12, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The reference (1) says that "Colombia is the most dangerous country in the world for those exercising the right to freedom of association", which is not quite the same thing as saying it is the most dangerous country in the world for trade unionists. Also, there is no mention of it having been so "for decades". Si Trew (talk) 08:00, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it is the same, as is clear from the context (ITUC report), which is drawing on the ILO meaning [1]. Anyway, I've added more references. Rd232 ^talk 10:12, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Settha Palace Hotel

... that the Settha Palace Hotel in Vientiane is a boutique hotel, housed in a renovated French Indonese colonial building?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 16:10, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- ready. Dincher (talk) 23:52, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Florian Bellanger

... that as a child French executive pastry chef Florian Bellanger was allergic to chocolate, but now claims it is his favorite ingredient?

Created by Tommy2010 (talk). Self nom at 16:03, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure that "childhood" is well placed here, since the chocolate allergy is not particularly associated with childhood in the way that, say, mumps or chickenpox is a "childhood illness". Also, make piped link French more specific. Suggest:

I'm also a little concerned, per WP:LINKING#General points on linking style "When possible, avoid placing links next to each other so that they look like a single link" that "chocolate allergy" appears to be one link (and indeed I took it thus until I went to edit this). I realise this happens a lot at DYK because of space restrictions leading to more headline language. Here, though, the "it" can only refer to the allergy being his favorite ingredient, which isn't right.

ALT1 (changed to default). ... that as a child French executive pastry chef Florian Bellanger was allergic to chocolate, but now claims it is his favorite ingredient?

Si Trew (talk) 08:09, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The reference by the way says "childhood allergy to chocolate" not "childhood choolate allergy", and I am not sure we should dispense with the "to" and seem to synthesise a specific allergy.

I've done some minor copy editing on this article for MOS and to check/augment the refs; I think this is fit to go, but someone else should make that call since I have now edited it. Si Trew (talk) 08:43, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the help. I like Alt 1, if no one else has any problems. Thanks Tommy! [message] 11:32, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Johnny McNichol

... that Brighton & Hove Albion Football Club broke their transfer record to sign Johnny McNichol, who at the time had not played a single game in the Football League?

5x expanded by Struway2 (talk). Self nom at 15:55, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Where does in the references that at that time he had not played a single game in the Football League? Reference 1, a fan site, puts him at having 0 appearances for Newcastle United, but reference 7, the Brighton Argus, just says he was a part-timer at Newcastle but doesn't say he didn't play any league games. So we're just relying on the fan site, then?

By the way I'd put "... to sign Johnny McNichol for £5,000 ..." Si Trew (talk) 08:56, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ref#1 definitely isn't a fansite, and is widely used at WikiProject Football because of its accuracy, which perhaps disappointingly is better than some stats sites run by reputable media organisations including the Guardian and the BBC, but it isn't demonstrably WP:RS. If that's unacceptable, I'll try and find a book source; can't find anything online to explicitly source zero appearances. Not sure how to word the hook to include the fee: if it's just "... to sign Johnny McNichol for £5,000 ..." without any rearrangement, it'll read like the £5000 hadn't played in the FL... I shall return. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 09:30, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ref replaced (now #4) by the definitive book source for post-1945 Football League player stats. To include the fee in the hook, although it wouldn't be as crisp as the original, how about

ALT ... that Brighton & Hove Albion Football Club broke their transfer record, paying £5,000 to sign Johnny McNichol, who at the time had not played a single game in the Football League?

cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:19, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's OK, let's AGF on the book source and/or take that site as RS, then; I was hasty to judge it as a fan site. I don't mind losing the £5,000 if you think it's ugly, it just shows how times change so I thought it good to mention the amount. Let's go with the original. Si Trew (talk) 16:11, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Whichever, though I do prefer the original. thanks, Struway2 (talk) 16:17, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Waldemar Stoud Platou

... that Waldemar Stoud Platou founded Hansa Brewery?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 15:28, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date verified. Hook's foreign language ref accepted AGF. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:39, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Robert M. Chanock

... that Dr. Albert Sabin, developer of the oral polio vaccine, called Dr. Robert M. Chanock (pictured) his "star scientific son"

Created/expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:14, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No problems, ready. I think the hook should refer to some of the important discoveries of Dr. Chanock rather than to those of Dr. Sabin. But that's just my opinion. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 14:14, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

J. H. Hall

... that the British Labour Party Member of Parliament (MP) J. H. Hall worked in the trade union movement for over 40 years?

Created by Boleyn2 (talk). Nominated by BrownHairedGirl (talk) at 14:54, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Montmartre funicular

... that although the 108-metre-long Montmartre funicular (pictured) is considered part of the Paris Métro, passengers using it must pay for a separate journey?

5x expanded by SimonTrew (talk). Self nom at 14:21, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cold shoulder

... that an unwanted guest may have been served a "cold shoulder" of mutton?

Created by Theornamentalist (talk). Nominated by Theornamentalist (talk) at 14:13, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Creation date, length and hook references all OK. Si Trew (talk) 15:59, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed the link from cold shoulder (phrase) to cold shoulder since the article has been moved there and the first is now a redirect for which I've suggested deletion at RfD. Si Trew (talk) 10:54, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oscar Ludvig Stoud Platou

... that Oscar Ludvig Stoud Platou was a law professor for five years after sustaining blindness?

5x expanded by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 13:56, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: "... after becoming blind". He was the law professor for five years while sustaining blindness, not after sustaining it. Si Trew (talk) 14:54, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"becoming blind" is much clearer. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:59, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Uinta County Courthouse

... that the walls of the oldest part of the Uinta County Courthouse were stained with a mixture said to contain slaughterhouse blood and stale beer?

Created by Acroterion (talk). Nominated by Acroterion (talk) at 13:02, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and hook verified. - Theornamentalist (talk) 15:03, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ragnvald Gjerløw

... that Ragnvald Gjerløw played a main role in (re-)establishing the Diocese of Stavanger?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 12:41, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Buntingsdale Hall

... that the River Tern passes to the north of the Buntingsdale Hall in Shropshire?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 11:17, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, and hook verified. Si Trew (talk) 15:05, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Harry George Woolley

... that Harry George Woolley holds a club record for the most penalty minutes spent off the field but donated the Most Sportsmanlike trophy to his lacrosse league?

Created by Digitalerica (talk). Nominated by Nthep (talk) at 09:47, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Raheel Raza

... that Raheel Raza led the first Muslim mixed-sex prayers in Canada, in 2005?

created by --Epeefleche (talk) 04:06, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Muslim mixed-sex" => "mixed-sex Muslim". DS (talk) 12:58, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kingman Lake

... that the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers originally proposed damming the Anacostia River at Massachusetts Avenue SE to create a large reservoir, but built the much smaller Kingman Lake (pictured) in 1920 instead?

5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 02:23, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Presumably "... built the much-smaller ...". Si Trew (talk) 14:56, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Correct! I've altered the nomination accordingly - Tim1965 (talk) 20:19, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Milan Paumer

... that Milan Paumer (pictured) was a member of a Czechoslovak anticommunist resistance group that fought its way across East Germany to West Berlin in 1953, evading a manhunt involving 25,000 people?

Created and self-nominated by ChrisO (talk). Article expanded from 616 chars to 6726 chars of prose. Hook is 200 chars long. -- ChrisO (talk) 01:27, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- missing in line refs. Dincher (talk) 00:03, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- - good to go. Thanks for fixing it. Dincher (talk) 00:39, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 9

Lectionary 269

... that Lectionary 269 (pictured) represent the Byzantine text-type in its early stage?

Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 17:09, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 ... that according to Constantin von Tischendorf Lectionary 269 (pictured) is one of the earliest Evangelistarion?

Time of the Comet

... that the 2008 historical drama/black comedy film Time of the Comet set a new box office record in Albanian cinemas?

Created by ZjarriRrethues (talk). Self nom at 19:27, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The image should be removed since it is a non-free poster. Tbhotch^Talk ^C. 05:10, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ted Badcock

... that New Zealand cricketer Ted Badcock is the only player to be out first ball in both innings on his Test debut?

5x expanded by Testing times (talk). Self nom at 19:04, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Probatus

... that in a letter of 22 April 772 to Probatus, who later served as his ambassador, Pope Adrian I claimed to rule a "republic of the Romans"?

Created by Srnec (talk). Nominated by Srnec (talk) at 05:08, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mel Anthony

... that Michigan fullback Mel Anthony set a Rose Bowl record with an 84-yard touchdown run in 1965?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 01:48, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Everything checks out. Sasata (talk) 03:27, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chuck Heater

... that former Michigan back Chuck Heater coached national championship football teams at Notre Dame and Florida?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 01:37, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Theater Dortmund

... that Cecilia Bartoli sang the title role of Bellini's Norma for the first time in concert in the Konzerthaus Dortmund?

Created by 4meter4 (talk), Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 22:40, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Boys High School

... that Norman Mailer and Isaac Asimov attended the same Boys High School?

created by AMuseo, talk. Self nom Boys High Scool| 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Girls High School

... that Lena Horne and Shirley Chisolm attended the same racially integrated Girls High School?

created by AMuseo, talk. Self nom Girls High School| 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Little Bolton, Great Bolton

... that despite their names, Little Bolton had a larger acreage than Great Bolton?

Created by HLE (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 15:41, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

George Nicholls (MP)

... that after losing his seat in the House of Commons in January 1910, the British politician and pastor George Nicholls stood again 8 times over the next 19 years, without success?

5x expanded by BrownHairedGirl (talk). Nominated by BrownHairedGirl (talk) at 15:12, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nikephoros Palaiologos

... that Nikephoros Palaiologos and his son George twice found themselves on opposite sides during rebellions aimed at the Byzantine throne?

Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 19:19, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Venezuelan presidential election, 1998

Irene Sáez

... that in the early stages of the 1998 Venezuelan presidential election the front runner was Miss Universe 1981, Irene Sáez?

5x expanded by Rd232 (talk). Self nom at 16:45, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

She wasn't the former Miss Universe 1981. She was Miss Universe, 1981. (Nobody else became Miss Universe 1981 after her.) Si Trew (talk) 22:47, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, fair enough, dropped the "the former". Rd232 ^talk 06:01, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Might be better without the 1981 (too much detail), so ALT: that in the early stages of the 1998 Venezuelan presidential election the front runner was the former Miss Universe, Irene Sáez? Rd232 ^talk 11:33, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Either is good for me, I don't see much between them. However, the article does not mention that she was Miss Universe, only that she was a "former beauty queen". I presume the source for this is McCoy (ref 1) which will have to be AGF for me (it's not available in my local libraries), but the wording in the article should change. Si Trew (talk) 22:57, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Added another source and changed the wording in the election article. I prefer the ALT myself. Rd232 ^talk 00:29, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tal Abernathy

... that after being fined due to an incident, professional baseball player Tal Abernathy promised his teammates that if he was ever fined again he would buy them all a steak?

Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 07:51, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jewish pope Andreas

... that according to a legend a Jewish boy named Elhanan, who was stolen from his parents, later became the Jewish pope Andreas?

Created by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 04:51, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

NBA outdoor games

... that the Phoenix Suns was featured in all of the National Basketball Association's outdoor games?

Created by Chrishomingtang (talk). Self nom at 01:47, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bradley M. Campbell

... that as son of a Lebanese Arab father who was raised by Jewish stepfathers after his father's death, Bradley M. Campbell quipped his "aspiration is to become ambassador-at-large in the Middle East"?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 00:02, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mapie de Toulouse-Lautrec

... that Mapie de Toulouse-Lautrec invented the detachable recipe card for Elle magazine?

Created by Remkojas (talk). Self nom at 16:47, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date of the article checks out but there are a number of other issues. The article is too short: at the moment only about 870 ccharacters of prose, whereas by WP:DYK rules 1500 characters of prose is a hard minimum (and something slightly longer is usually preferred). The article currently has no inline citations at all (and in fact no References section), and in particular the hook fact is not supported by an inline citation - such a citation is also required by WP:DYK rules. There are other issues - e.g. the first link in the External links section is to blogspot.com - personal blogs are not allowed as EL links per WP:EL; certainly that won't do for an entry to be featured at the main page. If these issues are addressed quickly, the article may still qualify for DYK, but in the present form it does not. Nsk92 (talk) 15:30, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Andre Routis

... that the former featherweight world boxing champion Andre Routis spent two years in Morocco as a mechanic for the French Colonial Army?

Created by Mr.Apples2010 (talk). Self nom at 22:48, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edgar Keatinge

... that the British Conservative Member of Parliament (MP) Sir Edgar Keatinge was born in Mumbai, India?

Created by BrownHairedGirl (talk). Nominated by BrownHairedGirl (talk) at 22:38, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It should be Bombay, as that was the name of the city when he was born. --Soman (talk) 22:50, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Or at least Bombay (now Mumbai) or along those lines. BritishWatcher (talk) 22:58, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have no objection to either of those alternative versions. In the article, I used "Bombay (now Mumbai)", but I was trying to keep the hook short. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:29, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article length & date & hook length ok; hook fact verified. Sasata (talk) 03:43, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sherlock Holmes; or, Held for Ransom

... that the 1905 silent Vitagraph film The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes starring Maurice Costello was the first serious attempt at a Sherlock Holmes adaptation?

Created by Bob Castle (talk). Nominated by Bob Castle (talk) at 22:34, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Too short at 1162 B. Sasata (talk) 03:46, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Evita, vida y obra de Eva Perón

... that a comic book about Eva Perón was cancelled during production by political censorship, and finished and published posthumously?

Created by User:MBelgrano (talk). Self nom at 20:25, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Prisco Nilo

... that former Philippine Atmospheric, Geophysical and Astronomical Services Administration (PAGASA) administrator Prisco Nilo entered the agency in 1984 as a meteorologist?

Created by Joaquin008 (talk). Self nom at 19:44, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cinema City Nablus

... that Cinema City Nablus hosts children's birthday parties?

created by AMuseo, talk. Self nom Cinema City Nablus| 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Bruce M. Cohen, Interns for Peace

... that Rabbi Bruce M. Cohen established Interns for Peace to foster personal connections between Arabs and Jews, saying "every time you create contact it's successful because it breaks stereotypes"?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 18:43, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Johann Ewald

... that Johann Ewald, a Hessian mercenary during the American Revolutionary War, was awarded the French Legion of Honor for his performance as a Danish Army general in the 1809 Battle of Stralsund?

5x expanded by Magicpiano (talk). Self nom at 17:45, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

St Oswald's Church, Kirk Sandall

... that there is a legend that the body of Saint Oswald, king of Northumbria, rested on the present site of St Oswald's Church, Kirk Sandall, South Yorkshire, (pictured) after his death in 642?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 17:07, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alt... that the chapel in St Oswald's Church, Kirk Sandall, South Yorkshire, (pictured) is named after a former rector, William Rokeby, who later became Bishop of Meath, then Lord Chancellor of Ireland, and Archbishop of Dublin?--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 17:13, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nick Pace

... that Nick Pace, a mixed martial artist, won the inaugural Ring of Combat Bantamweight title by defeating his opponent via d'arce choke in the first round?

Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom by Paralympiakos (talk) 15:52, 9 August 2010 (UTC) [reply]

Vinay Deolalikar

... that Vinay Deolalikar recently circulated a manuscript claiming to prove P≠NP, a Millennium Prize Problem?

Created by Aksi great (talk). Nominated by SPat (talk) at 14:43, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Could've been in ITN, but I don't think its notable enough... yet. Also, alternate wording for "recently" would help. SPat ^talk 14:43, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to withdraw the nomination, pending AfD SPat ^talk 16:55, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anthony James Pye Molloy

... that Captain Anthony Molloy's court martial and disgrace following the Glorious First of June was attributed by some to a curse from a woman he had dishonoured?

Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 11:02, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rock gong

... that the rock gong was a neolithic musical instrument made out of dolerite that would resonate with a metallic tone when struck with a small igneous stone?

Created by Mattgirling (talk). Self nom at 10:33, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New article, sufficient length, AGF for offline sources. Smartse (talk) 16:49, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Harry Selley

... that at the Palace of Westminster in May 1945 the 73-year-old British Conservative Member of Parliament Harry Selley built a 200-brick wall in 58 minutes whilst wearing a bowler hat?

Created by BrownHairedGirl (talk). Nominated by BrownHairedGirl (talk) at 06:01, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lawrence of Durham

... that Lawrence, Prior of Durham, composed a life of the Irish saint Brigid?

Created by Deacon of Pndapetzim (talk). Nominated by Deacon of Pndapetzim (talk) at 03:00, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Australian Baseball League

A roughly circular wooden shield, with sculpted metalwork shown on the front.

... that the champion of the new Australian Baseball League will be awarded the Claxton Shield (pictured), given to the top Australian baseball team since the first national tournament held in 1934?

Created by Afaber012 (talk). Self nom at 02:46, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Everything looks good to go. --Brian Halvorsen (talk) 19:20, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

~~Ohhh, missed it here. I don't think that's 5x expansion as the article is not new. --Brian Halvorsen (talk) 21:23, 9 August 2010 (UTC)~~[reply]

Silly me, it was in user space. It's good to go. Sorry for the mix-up. --Brian Halvorsen (talk) 21:27, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewing it myself, realised it could have been a little clearer. Afaber012 (talk) 21:36, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2010 National Scout Jamboree

... that the largest fireworks display ever performed on a military base took place at the 2010 National Scout Jamboree?

5x expanded by NerdyScienceDude (talk). Nominated by NerdyScienceDude (talk) at 02:13, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length of expansion, and hook verified Calmer Waters 08:45, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lee Lockwood, Richard A. Stratton

... that a 1967 image by photojournalist Lee Lockwood of American prisoner of war Richard A. Stratton bowing to his North Vietnamese captors brought charges from the U.S. that POWs were being brainwashed?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 01:23, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 8

Electro Scientific Industries

... that Oregon-based Electro Scientific Industries (pictured) worked with Nike, Inc. to get a law passed that effectively prevents the neighboring city of Beaverton from annexing either company's property?

Created by EncMstr (talk), SJ Morg (talk). Nominated by Aboutmovies (talk) at 06:26, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DeWayne Patmon

... that American football player DeWayne Patmon appeared in a few movies after his National Football League career ended?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 15:30, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Old Melbourne Gaol

... that the youngest prisoner recorded at the Old Melbourne Gaol in Australia, was three year old Michael Crimmins, who spent 6 months in the prison in 1857 for being idle and disorderly?

5x expanded by Jwoodger (talk). Self nom at 06:30, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's an interesting article but I am not seeing a 5x+ expansion here (maybe someone else can double-check). For the last pre-expansion version[2] from April 19, 2010 the prose portion is around 4000 characters. The current version has well under 12000 characters of prose - considerably short of 5x+ expansion. Nsk92 (talk) 17:44, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bryan Hall

... that Bryan Hall served as the radio play-by-play announcer for the Edmonton Eskimos for 44 years?

5x expanded by Connormah (talk). Nominated by Connormah (talk) at 17:54, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length of expansion, and hook verified.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:58, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nom with image:

Goodrich Castle

... that a chance encounter at Goodrich Castle in 1793 inspired William Wordsworth's famous poem We are Seven?

5x expanded by Hchc2009 (talk). Nominated by Hchc2009 (talk) at 15:54, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date and 5x+ expansion verified, hook fact verified - offline ref accepted per AGF. (For the image, I probably would have gone with a photo, such as File:Goodrich Castle 01.jpg, but ultimately it is the nominator's choice). Nsk92 (talk) 18:36, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

U.S. Post Office (Medina, New York)

... that the design of the Medina, New York, post office (pictured), has only been reused in Salem, Indiana?

Comment: Fivefold text expansion

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 00:49, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cheshunt Great House

... that Cheshunt Great House, once owned by Cardinal Thomas Wolsey from 1519 until 1529, was burned down in 1965?

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Charles Matthews (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 13:19, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, refs, date OK for 5x expansion. I would lose the "was" in "was burned down" as this might suggest arson, which the refs do not suggest. Si Trew (talk) 20:11, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'd also lose the "once" in "once owned". The refs say it was "once owned by" but the "once here attaches to "it was once" i.e. at one time, and is unnecessary because the date range is given. Si Trew (talk) 20:19, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Charlie Abbey

... that Charlie Abbey became the first person from Nebraska to play in Major League Baseball after making his debut in 1893?

Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 07:02, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, and hook verified. Looked up an additional site [3] just to make sure the reference list was complete and it does appear that very few major league baseball players are indeed born in Nebraska. Calmer Waters 09:00, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fritz Teufel

... that Fritz Teufel was known as one of the "Spaßguerilla" (fun guerilla) who carried out the 1967 "Pudding Assassination" of U.S. Vice President Hubert H. Humphrey during a state visit to West Berlin?

Created by Prezbo (talk), Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 03:28, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Regina Coeli Church, Mexico City

... that a work based on legends from the Regina Coeli Church in Mexico City was performed by the “Fenix Novohispano” National Theater Company?

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 23:31, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fandango Pass

... that the Fandango Pass in the Warner Mountains is located at the convergence of two trails, the Applegate and the Lassen, that were traveled by emigrant pioneers between 1846 and 1850?

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 23:29, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Giro di Castelbuono

... that the Giro di Castelbuono is one of Europe's oldest road running competitions, having been first held in Castelbuono, Sicily, in 1912?

Created by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Self nom at 23:18, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, and hook verified Calmer Waters 09:35, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Exercise Verity

... that Exercise Verity, a 1949 multilateral exercise involving over 60 warships, was described by a contemporary British newsreel as involving "he greatest assembly of warships since the Battle of Jutland?"

Created by Marcd30319 (talk). Nominated by Marcd30319 (talk) at 20:57, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length: 2975 characters without spaces.Marcd30319 (talk) 20:59, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length and hook verified. Interesting to have an RS that is an audiovisual source (British Pathé)! However, the voiceover actually says "the greatest assembly of warships since the Battle of Jutland", so wouldn't it be better to include the Battle of Jutland in the quote? (Perhaps this was not done because of the fear of linking in quotes per WP:QUOTE, but it's important to scope the assembly's greatness). Si Trew (talk) 09:09, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Concur and will revise here and with opening paragraph of the article. Thank you. Marcd30319 (talk) 10:49, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

FK Sørøy Glimt

... that players from the football team FK Sørøy Glimt were caught in a doping case, a rare occurence Northern Norwegian football?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 20:29, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Paleontological sites of Lebanon

... that the earliest known account about Lebanese fossils (pictured) is attributed to Herodotus?

Created by Mbz1 (talk) and Fences and windows (talk). Self nom at 20:27, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date, hook and ref all OK. Second ref AGF as subscription-only source, but first one says so quite plainly and explicitly. Si Trew (talk) 09:13, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Scented water

... that the velarium awning for the Colosseum (pictured) was saturated with scented water for dripping fragrant water on the spectators' heads for a cooling effect?

Created/expanded by Doug Coldwell (talk). Nominated by self at 20:24, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

According to velarium, which I think should be linked, a velarium is an awning, so this word would be redundant. However, the references that article gives don't seem to mention it, and perhaps velarium is the material and not the awning itself? Similarly, "for dripping fragrant water" is redundant. How about:

ALT1: ... that the velarium for the Colosseum (pictured) was saturated with scented water which dripped on spectators' heads to cool them?

Si Trew (talk) 09:26, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2:... that the overhead awning for the Colosseum (pictured) was saturated with scented water which dripped on spectators' heads to cool them?

ALT3: ... that it was a custom in the Roman Empire for ampitheathres (Colosseum pictured) to be furnished with scented water jet sprays for cooling the spectators?

ALT1 or ALT2 or ALT3 would work for me.--Doug Coldwell ^talk 11:16, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Seabank Hotel

... that troops of both the 28th Infantry Division and 75th Infantry Division were stationed at Seabank Hotel in Porthcawl, Wales during World War II?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 19:41, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Crinipellis zonata

... that, though overlookable as a little brown mushroom, Crinipellis zonata (pictured) is covered in distinctive brown hairs?

Created by J Milburn (talk). Nominated by J Milburn (talk) at 19:33, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

St Andrew's Church, Bywell

... that the tower of St Andrew's Church, Bywell, Northumberland, (pictured) was built in about 850 as a defensive structure?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 19:26, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- date, ref and length check out. Another nice little church article by Mr. Vardy - keep up the good work! Bob talk 14:59, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cornbread Harris

... that Cornbread Harris (pictured), father of record producer Jimmy Jam, performed on Minnesota's first rock 'n' roll record?

Created by SusanLesch (talk). Nominated by SusanLesch (talk) at 19:15, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

all checks out Thelmadatter (talk) 14:30, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John Idzik

... that John Idzik was twice fired from the Baltimore Colts when the management purged its coaching staff, and lost his job as a head coach when the University of Detroit ended its football program?

Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 18:52, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Poughkeepsie plan

... that under the Poughkeepsie plan Catholic children attended public schools taught by nuns wearing religious habits?

created by AMuseo, talk. Self nom Poughkeepsie plan| 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Marc Murphy (chef)

... that renowned restaurateur and television personality Marc Murphy can't bring himself to like coffee?

Created by Tommy2010 (talk). Self nom at 17:40, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

UPRM Planetarium

... that the UPRM Planetarium is the only planetarium in Puerto Rico?

Created by El Johnson (talk). Self nom at 17:32, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not quite at length requirements. It is currently at 1485 characters in length, whereas a minimum of 1500 is required. A little more expansion and you will be there. Calmer Waters 09:59, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done, it has been expanded. El Johnson (talk) 14:58, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length and hook now verified. Thanks for do that. Calmer Waters 04:42, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

United States Post Office (Middleport, New York)

... that the Middleport, New York, post office (pictured) is one of only three in the state using the same Colonial Revival-modernist design?

Comment: Fivefold text expansion

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 17:25, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 (tweak). It's a bit ugly having "New York" in the middle. Can we start, "... that the post office (pictured) in Middleport, New York..."? (I don't mind if (pictured) comes after New York.) Si Trew (talk) 20:22, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK 5x expansion (according to DYKCheck of the prose, is not 5x since 1 August on the byte size alone).

The following sentence is repeated in two consecutive paras: "He also used some design elements more specifically associated with the contemporary Moderne and Art Deco styles, such as the angled corners, asymmetrical window panes and large expanses of brick above the windows." This is important because it's the one from which the hook is taken.

Also, it would be useful if the citations were to the specific page number of the reference; in the case to page 4. Si Trew (talk) 20:37, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan Gregson

... that 20-year-old Ryan Gregson is the current Australian record holder over men's 1500 metres, having broken Simon Doyle's old mark from 1991?

Created by Sideways713 (talk). Self nom at 17:05, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Might be a good idea to mention what type of sporting event it is. Sasata (talk) 03:31, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I can see how there could be ambiguity.
ALT1: ... that 20-year-old Ryan Gregson is the current Australian record holder in men's 1500 metre run, having broken Simon Doyle's old mark from 1991? Sideways713 (talk) 09:57, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bexhill West Branch Line

... that the Combe Haven Viaduct, on the Bexhill West Branch Line, contained over 9,000,000 bricks?

Created by Mjroots (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 17:04, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, and hook verified Calmer Waters 10:10, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Richard Kelley

... that the British Labour Party politician and trade unionist Richard Kelley opposed allowing coal miners to leave work when they had finished their day's tasks?

5x expanded by BrownHairedGirl (talk). Nominated by BrownHairedGirl (talk) at 17:02, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

3D Express Coach

... that the 3D Express Coach allows cars under two meters to drive under the bus since the passengers are in an upper level of the bus elevated four meters above the ground?

Created by Winstonlighter (talk). Nominated by Derild4921 (talk) at 15:32, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Under two meters high? Si Trew (talk) 20:40, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The article needs a lot of cleanup. For one thing, it can't decide if it's a bus or a coach, not even in the title/lead. Si Trew (talk) 20:42, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, it's called the Express Coach, but it's bus. I'll go through with a copyedit and clean it up. Derild 49 21 ☼ 15:08, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done, how is it now? Derild 49 21 ☼ 18:31, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'll have to defer to someone else since I've edited it myself for cleanup. It might be better to move it or create a redirect at 3D Express bus. Si Trew (talk) 22:59, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Have created it as a redirect. Derild 49 21 ☼ 23:06, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Navachab Gold Mine

... that the Navachab Gold Mine is the only gold mine in Namibia?

Created by Calistemon (talk). Nominated by Calistemon (talk) at 14:39, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is only 1369 characters at the moment (the table doesn't count) can you make it longer to get it to 1500? Google scholar has some sourced that could be added. Smartse (talk) 19:32, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've carried out a further expansion today. Hopefully, this should be enough to ake it over the qualifying mark. Calistemon (talk) 09:40, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, it's good to go now. Smartse (talk) 16:39, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Spence (bishop)

... that, while Archbishop of Adelaide, the Dominican Robert Spence (pictured) wore the simple clothes of his order instead of the purple soutane of an archbishop?

Created by Lear's Fool (talk). Nominated by Lear's Fool (talk) at 14:33, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that in 1920, Archbishop of Adelaide Robert Spence (pictured) controversially accused British soldiers of committing atrocities in Ireland?
I'm not sure which is more interesting, but perhaps ALT1 is unnecessarily controversial? -- Lear's Fool 14:41, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hugh Candidus

... that Hugh Candidus [Hugh Albus] (c.1095–c.1160), a Benedictine

monk (pictured) and chronicler, wrote in Latin a history of Peterborough monastery from its formation as Medeshamstede in the mid 7th century to the 12th century? Created by Senra (talk). Self nom at 15:23, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Welsh (Labour politician)

... that the British Labour Party Member of Parliament (MP) Michael Welsh was one of 69 MPs who called in May 1982 for an immediate halt to hostilities in the Falklands War?

5x expanded by BrownHairedGirl (talk). Nominated by BrownHairedGirl (talk) at 14:10, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1. "... who in May 1982 called for ... " Si Trew (talk) 09:33, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ichabod Charles Wright and Mapperley Hall

... that English scholar Ichabod Charles Wright (born in Mapperley Hall) translated the three installments of Dante's Divina commedia; Inferno, Purgatorio, and Paradiso?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 12:38, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Two article nom. Dr. Blofeld 13:25, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chng Suan Tze v. Minister for Home Affairs

... that the Singapore case Chng Suan Tze v. Minister for Home Affairs, which held that courts could assess the lawfulness of orders made under the Internal Security Act, was overrriden by statute in 1989?

Created by Cheech86 (talk). Nominated by Smuconlaw (talk) at 09:25, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The article was worked on in a sandbox ("User:Smuconlaw/Chng Suan Tze v. Minister for Home Affairs") and transferred to the article namespace on 8 August. — SMUconlaw (talk) 09:28, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cathedral of Mayagüez

... that in the Cathedral of Mayagüez, Segundo Ruiz Belvis and Ramón Emeterio Betances bought, baptized and emancipated thousands of black slave children. (pictured)?

Created by El Johnson (talk) 06:41, 8 August 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 06:28, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that the Cathedral of Mayagüez lost both its towers in the 1918 San Fermín earthquake and were rebuilt almost 86 year later in 2004.

Enrique Tirabocchi

... that Enrique Tirabocchi had to appeal to Benito Mussolini to retrieve a trophy that he received for swimming the English Channel that had been confiscated by customs officials upon reentering Italy?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 03:53, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Steve Rickard

... that former professional wrestler Steve Rickard was once stranded in Greece after airports in the country were closed due to trouble with Turkey?

Created by 72.74.226.138 (talk). Nominated by Fetchcomms (talk) at 02:04, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on August 7

Gmelina fasciculiflora

... that the northern white beech is actually a member of the mint family?

Created by Casliber (talk), Poyt448 (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 10:25, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Freddie Bunce

... that English association football player Freddie Bunce won South Africa's 1964 National Football League with Highlands Park FC, during his only season with the team?

Created by WFCforLife (talk). Nominated by WFCforLife (talk) at 03:56, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fred Janke

... that former Jackson, Michigan mayor Fred Janke was the captain of Fritz Crisler's first Michigan Wolverines football team?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 06:08, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Government by itineration

... that government by itineration was a key mechanism of government in the Middle Ages in northern and eastern Europe?

Created by Malick78 (talk). Nominated by Malick78 (talk) on 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Kingman Park, Washington, D.C.

... that residents of the Kingman Park neighborhood in Washington, D.C., successfully lobbied the Washington Metro in 1977 to cancel the proposed Oklahoma Avenue Station on the Orange and Blue lines?

5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 01:02, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

P Ranch

... that the historic P Ranch was owned by cattle baron Peter French and covered 140,000 acres (570 km²) along the Donner und Blitzen River in Harney County, Oregon?

Created by Orygun (talk). Nominated by Orygun (talk) at 21:41, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

reserve teams in Norwegian football

... that from 2010, reserve teams in Norwegian football were barred from using more than three players aged over 21?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 09:00, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length & date & hook length ok; AGF with Norwegian-language source. Sasata (talk) 03:34, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Captan Jack Wyly

... that Captan Jack Wyly was perhaps the richest lawyer in Lake Providence, Louisiana, considered the poorest city in the United States?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:54, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pop Williams

... that in 1898, Pop Williams became the first attendee of Bowdoin College to play in Major League Baseball?

5x expanded by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 02:27, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date and article length verified, hook length OK, hook fact verified Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:29, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agrarian Socialist League

... that the Agrarian Socialist League, a Russian revolutionary émigré organization, was founded at the funeral of Pyotr Lavrov in 1900?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 01:48, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date and article length verified, hook length OK, hook fact verified. Nsk92 (talk) 14:31, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dallas Braden's perfect game

... that Major League Baseball player Dallas Braden pitched a perfect game on Mother's Day with his grandmother in attendance?

Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 01:10, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, hook ref all verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 10:04, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hyderabad State Congress

... that the Hyderabad State Congress led a non-violent civil disobedience campaign for the union of Hyderabad State with India, declaring August 7, 1947 as "Join Indian Union Day"?

Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 00:43, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Prince Michael of Yugoslavia (b. 1958)

... that Prince Michael of Yugoslavia, a Bernard Madoff feeder fund executive, approached Charles, Prince of Wales about becoming a potential investor at a polo tournament in 2002?

Created by Caponer (talk). Self nom at 00:23, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that Bernard Madoff feeder fund executive Prince Michael of Yugoslavia approached Charles, Prince of Wales about becoming a potential investor at a polo tournament in 2002? --Caponer (talk) 00:24, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mortal Kombat (2011 video game)

... that Mortal Kombat has won multiple best fighting game awards at E3 2010 and is already being considered as the most violent video game ever?

5x expanded by User:Subzerosmokerain (talk). Self nom at 23:07, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion and ref verified. Ready to go. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 19:18, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've italicised Mortal Kombat. Smartse (talk) 16:41, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Geoffrey Zakarian

... that the world-renowned restaurateur and classically-trained chef Geoffrey Zakarian was defeated by Iron Chef Masaharu Morimoto on an episode of Iron Chef America by a 14 point margin?

Created by Tommy2010 (talk) at 22:22, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph Henry Sharp

... that artist Joseph Henry Sharp designed and built a log cabin at Little Big Horn at government expense with the support of President Theodore Roosevelt?

5x expanded by Yworo (talk). Self nom at 22:08, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date and length are good, and the hook statement is in the article; however, the source for the hook statement seems to say that Roosevelt gave no support. Unless I'm misunderstanding something (quite possible, as it's bedtime and I'm just back from a several-hour-long car trip), this isn't something that should be on the Main Page with a situation like this. Nyttend (talk) 03:54, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, it looks like a combination of my using the wrong reference and ambiguity of the word "support". I've added additional citations and here's an alternate wording for the hook:

ALT1 ... that President Theodore Roosevelt arranged for the Indian Commission to build artist Joseph Henry Sharp a log cabin at Little Big Horn at government expense?

if necessary, we could insert "may have" before arranged due to the one conflicting source, but the other sources clearly show Roosevelt's involvement with the matter on some level, and the Indian agent would not have had the authority to do this on his own. Yworo (talk) 16:15, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I can't agree with the ALT1 statement in the face of the source that disagrees. WP:NPOV requires us to reflect all major points of view, and I don't see this source as being fringey enough to warrant being ignored. Nyttend (talk) 14:39, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, then let's leave Roosevelt out of it... Yworo (talk) 19:04, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2 ... that the Indian Commission built a log cabin for artist Joseph Henry Sharp at Little Big Horn at government expense?

Or another hook entirely: Yworo (talk) 19:09, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT3 ... that a purchase of 80 paintings by Phoebe Hearst enabled artist Joseph Henry Sharp to devote himself to painting full-time in a log cabin at Little Big Horn?

Julian Allen

... that Julian Allen became the Illustration chair of the Maryland Institute College of Art in 1997?

Created by Guoguo12 (talk). Self nom at 20:50, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not yet; currently <900 characters. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:27, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Worn Me Down

... that Rachael Yamagata tells a man who is infatuated with another woman that "you have "Worn Me Down"", through song?

5x expanded by Theornamentalist (talk). Self nom at 19:48, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Very "bleh" hook. This is fiction. Give us some more context, or it's worthless and should not be on the front page. DS (talk) 23:32, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 1 - ... that Rachael Yamagata has gotten so emotional while performing "Worn Me Down" that some fans have shouted "On t'aime!" to her? - Theornamentalist (talk) 04:20, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Better. Might want to incorporate the part about how it makes her cry onstage. DS (talk) 13:05, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1993 Grand National

... that the 1993 Grand National horse race was declared void after 30 of the 39 riders failed to realise a false start had been called, leading it to be called "the race that never was"?

Created by Bob Castle (talk). Self-nom by Bob Castle (talk) at 19:19, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This looks good and ready to go. Yworo (talk) 22:16, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The American Israelite

... that The American Israelite, published in Cincinnati since 1854, was the leading organ for American Reform Judaism and is the oldest English-language Jewish newspaper still going in the United States?

5x expanded by Wasted Time R (talk). Self nom at 16:56, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Recommend re-writing hook. To some non-native English speakers, organ means either liver/kidney or church music. Was it an official publication or something else? Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 17:32, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that The American Israelite, published in Cincinnati since 1854, helped advance American Reform Judaism and is the oldest English-language Jewish newspaper still circulated in the United States? Wasted Time R (talk) 12:07, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Eugene Michael Hyman

... that Santa Clara County, California Superior Court judge Eugene Michael Hyman created the first family/juvenile violence court in the United States focusing exclusively on juvenile perpetrators and their victims?

Created by Briannapstevens (talk), Morenooso (talk). Nominated by Antandrus (talk) at 16:27, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hook is unclear because if the court was exclusively for criminals how could it also be for victims. Exclusive means one. Maybe it was an early attempt for a court to focus on juvenile criminals? Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 17:32, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed -- oops, my clumsy wording -- should have been "and their" instead of "as well as" -- since every domestic violence case has a perpetrator and a victim. Anyway, according to the CBS 60 Minutes segment, that's what the court does: it focuses on those cases only. Antandrus (talk) 21:30, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Budgen (director)

... that commercial director Frank Budgen filmed an advertisement that involved 50 stuntmen and acrobats?

Created by Arbitrarily0 (talk). Self nom at 16:20, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fred Baer

... that 1954 Michigan football MVP Fred Baer and 1953 Heisman Trophy winner Johnny Lattner played in the same backfield for Fenwick High School in the Chicago Catholic League in 1949?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 16:19, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's about American football, right? --PFHLai (talk) 18:01, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Uh-huh. Cbl62 (talk) 06:03, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I generally edit in association football, and I'd compare this hook to expecting a reader to identify association football based on a reference to the penalty area. It would help if there was a more direct reference to the sport, such as slipping a piped football in somewhere. --W F C-- 04:08, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done.Cbl62 (talk) 05:18, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mesopotamian Marshes

... that the Mesopotamian Marshes (pictured) were deliberately drained to 10% of their original size before beginning a recovery after the fall of Saddam Hussein?

5x/self-nom by --NortyNort (Holla) 16:12, 7 August 2010 (UTC) [reply]

Museum of Apollonia

... that the Museum of Apollonia, near Fier, Albania, is currently closed to the public?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 15:52, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Lame Devil (film)

... that The Lame Devil, Sacha Guitry's 1948 historical film, takes its title from a nickname shared by Talleyrand, Lord Byron, and the demon Asmodeus?

ALT1:... that The Lame Devil, Sacha Guitry's 1948 historical film, was blocked by French censorship and had to be turned into a successful play before being allowed filming?

Created by Ekans (talk). Self nom at 15:50, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Stephens (pioneer)

... that Peter Stephens died in November 1757, 10 months before the town he founded was chartered in September 1758?

Neutralhomer • Talk • 14:00, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please be reminded that DYK articles must contain prose that is at least 1500 characters long. Right now, this article has about 1100. --PFHLai (talk) 18:12, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Okie Dokie (sorry, newbie at DYK) let me see what I can do. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 18:25, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, updated. BTW, what link are you using to tell the characters on the page? I was using a Toolserver link, but it seems to be inactive. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 19:08, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I use this tool and it is reporting "1408 characters (230 words) "readable prose size"." --PFHLai (talk) 20:54, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1408, darn. Let me add a little more. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 21:00, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1510! :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 21:09, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edgar Rees Jones

... that Merthyr MP Edgar Rees Jones served as head of the Priorities Division of the British Ministry of Munitions during World War I?

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), BrownHairedGirl (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 12:19, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good hook, but it's 95% Dr. B's work. I don't really deserve a credit. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:12, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Durrës Archaeological Museum

... that the Durrës Archaeological Museum

contains a collection of miniature busts of Venus, testament to the time when the area was a centre of worship of the goddess? Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 11:10, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good to goThelmadatter (talk) 15:21, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

De ludo scachorum

... that Leonardo da Vinci may have designed the chess pieces for The Boredom Dodger?

5x expanded by ArCgon (talk). Self nom at 09:51, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date and 5x+ expansion verified, hook length OK, hook fact verified. Nsk92 (talk) 15:10, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of NME number-one singles from the 1960s

... that "Please Please Me" is, arguably, The Beatles' first number-one single?

Created by Rambo's Revenge (talk). Self nom at 09:21, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Would you like to link to "Please Please Me (song)," instead? "Please Please Me" is not a single, but an album with 14 songs. --PFHLai (talk) 18:22, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good spot. Sorry about that. Now fixed. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 18:24, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kkoktu

... that Kkoktu (pictured) are Korean statuettes that accompany a deceased to guide, heal and comfort them?

Created by Rama (Rama). Self nom at 10:47, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is an interesting article. Unfortunately, it has an orphan tag and no inline citations.Thelmadatter (talk) 15:23, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Goll Homestead

... that the house at northwestern Ohio's Goll Homestead (pictured) was built with two front doors?

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 04:00, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article doesn't actually say it was built with two front doors. It says it was divided soon after it was built. I don't see how essentially being converted to a duplex to accommodate two families is particularly interesting. It doesn't help that the image doesn't actually show the two front doors. Yworo (talk) 23:58, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The house was never converted to a duplex; it was built that way. Nyttend (talk) 00:03, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Then the article needs to make that clearer. What it says now is "In 1862, one day before their child was born, Peter, Jr. and his wife moved into the new white wooden house. Soon afterward, his parents also moved into the house; in order to accommodate both households, the building was divided into two parts, each accessible by a different front door." I read "was divided" as a verb, something done to the house after its original construction to accommodate two families. If that's not what happened, different, non-ambiguous wording needs to be used. Yworo (talk) 00:09, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Even if it was built that way, I'm still not convinced it's interesting. It just means it was built as a duplex. I've lived in neighborhoods with plenty of houses, built as duplexes, that have two front doors. I'm sure duplexes were also common in the 19th century. What in particular makes this fact interesting? It seems more details are needed. Yworo (talk) 00:13, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, "divided" as in "it was designed to be divided..."; I changed the wording to clarify this as soon as I got your note. Let me think for a little bit; I should be able to get a decent alt hook. Nyttend (talk) 02:19, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Here you go — ALT1 "... that northwestern Ohio's Goll Homestead lies at the core of one of the few remaining areas of old-growth forest in the Great Black Swamp?" The source for this hook is the second sentence of the first paragraphy of the "House" section; since the source says that they "preserved Goll Woods...[as] an example of the primeval swamp forest once characteristic of the area", it's reasonable to say that the woodlands, apparently never cut down, are old-growth forest. Nyttend (talk) 02:24, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 looks good to me. Yworo (talk) 03:04, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 6

Freddie Welsh

... that the favourite dish of former World Lightweight Boxing Champion Freddie Welsh (pictured), a professed vegetarian, was Maryland Chicken?

self nom, x5 expansion FruitMonkey (talk). FruitMonkey (talk) 20:24, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed ALT - ... that former World Lightweight Boxing Champion Freddie Welsh's favorite dish was Chicken Maryland despite his professed vegetarianism? Canada Hky (talk) 03:17, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion and date verified, offline hook ref accepted in good faith. I prefer the original hook. —Bruce1ee^talk 14:57, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Madonna: An Intimate Biography

... that the biographical book Madonna: An Intimate Biography, written by J. Randy Taraborrelli, debuted and stayed atop of The New York Times Best Seller list for three months?

Created by Legolas2186 (talk). Self nom at 03:46, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified, offline hook refs accepted in good faith. BTW shouldn't the "Plot" section be called something like "Contents"? It's not a work of fiction. —Bruce1ee^talk 15:13, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, is more like a synopsis. Tbhotch^Talk ^C. 16:27, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Regent and Warwick House; Nantwich Castle

... that the bend in the street occupied by Regent House (pictured) in Nantwich, Cheshire, follows the line of the outer wall of the town's Norman castle?

Created by Espresso Addict (talk). Self nom at 23:54, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nantwich Castle now expanded to an eligible article. Espresso Addict (talk) 23:49, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No problems, ready for DKY.AMuseo (talk) 16:06, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

September 1964 South Vietnamese coup attempt

... that the leaders of the September 1964 South Vietnamese coup attempt vowed to base their rule on the rul of slain President Ngo Dinh Diem (pictured)?

Created by YellowMonkey (talk). Self nom at 06:36, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed ALT ... that the leaders of the September 1964 South Vietnamese coup attempt vowed to base their rule on that of slain President Ngo Dinh Diem (pictured)? Just trying to get away from using using "rule" twice in the same sentence. Canada Hky (talk) 03:22, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely, should have checked it myself for the silly gaffe YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 07:13, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Katarismo

... that the katarista movement leader Víctor Hugo Cárdenas was elected Vice President of Bolivia in 1993?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 02:59, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

offline sources in good faith Thelmadatter (talk) 14:41, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Samuel Mills Damon

... that the vast estate of Samuel Mills Damon included a coin collection that alone was worth millions of US dollars?

Comment: might be able to find a better hook, since the real estate was hundreds of millions, but the coin collection was notable by itself

Created by W Nowicki (talk). Nominated by W Nowicki (talk) at 02:34, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 ... that land aquired from the vast estate of Samuel Mills Damon enlarged Hawaii Volcanoes National Park by more than 50%?

Another potential hook? W Nowicki (talk) 19:03, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I like the second hook.AMuseo (talk) 16:10, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Konocti Harbor

... that Konocti Harbor, a now-closed resort and music venue in Lake County, California, was originally founded in 1959 as low-cost vacation housing for members of a plumbers union?

Created by Evangp (talk). Nominated by David Eppstein (talk) at 01:50, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, hook ref verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:42, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Walter Ohmsen

... that Walter Ohmsen was the first to discover the Allied invasion fleet on the morning of 6 June 1944?

Created by MisterBee1966 (talk). Self nom at 07:14, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Way too strong a hook to be taken on good faith. For example, presumably some of the allies themselves saw their own fleet. Another German might have seen it but not lived to tell the tale. Also need to link up relevant articles, e.g. why that date might be interesting. How about:

ALT1 ... that Walter Ohmsen was the first to report the Allied invasion fleet to the German military on the morning of 6 June 1944?

W Nowicki (talk) 19:43, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Topsy Sinden

... that at the age of 16, Topsy Sinden was given the role of Violet Deveney in the 1894 hit Edwardian musical comedy The Shop Girl?

Created by Ssilvers (talk). Nominated by Ssilvers (talk) at 22:47, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article creation, length and hook citation all look good. Canada Hky (talk) 03:26, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Miners Foundry

... that in 1879, the first manufacturing site of the Pelton wheel occurred at what became known as the Miners Foundry?

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 17:51, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 ... that the first manufacturing site of the Pelton wheel occurred in Nevada City, California in 1879? --Rosiestep (talk) 17:53, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Planchonella queenslandica

... that the fruit of the Blush Condoo (pictured) are eaten by the Wompoo Fruit Dove and the Topknot Pigeon?

Created by Casliber (talk), Poyt448 (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 14:20, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The "Naming and taxonomy" section currently has no references. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:57, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I got a few in. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:49, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date verified. Offline ref accepted AGF. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:57, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Maggie Roswell

... that voice actress Maggie Roswell left The Simpsons in 1999 after a pay dispute with Fox Broadcasting Company, but returned in 2002?

5x expanded by Theleftorium (talk). Nominated by Theleftorium (talk) at 12:08, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dechencholing Palace

... that the Dechencholing Palace (pictured) has its own helipad despite no airport being in nearby Thimphu?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), talk, Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 09:57, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Added an img of the palace. User:Spongie555 is also a contributor to the article.-- N.V.V. Char ^Talk. 05:02, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date and 5x+ expansion verified. The hook seems also to be in order, but I do want to double-check one thing. The refs given to verify the hook fact are refs no. 20, 21 in the article. Ref no 20 is from 1978, and ref no 21 is from 2004. I want to make sure that it is the 2004 ref that mentions that there is no airport in Thimphu (a 1978 ref for this would be too old as conceivably an airport might have been built since 1978). Nsk92 (talk) 07:44, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As is standard with referencing you reference in order that the information in the sentence is given. So the 1978 ref is about the helipad and the 2004 ref is about no airport. Thimphu is currently at GA so we are 110% certain there is no airport in Thimphu, only at Paro. This should be fine. Dr. Blofeld 10:06, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks. I am marking this entry as verified. Nsk92 (talk) 10:16, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jackson Blood Cobblestone House

... that local tradition in Lyndonville, New York, holds that Jackson Blood's family hauled all the cobblestones for their house (pictured) down from Lake Ontario themselves?

Comment: Fivefold text expansion

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 04:29, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

5x expansion verified. Date, length OK. Hook ref AGF (the source is too big for me to open). I changed it to "cobblestones" and it's good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:28, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Western Purple-faced Langur, Niger Delta Red Colobus

... that in 2010, the Western Purple-faced Langur and the Niger Delta Red Colobus were both included among The World's 25 Most Endangered Primates?

Created by Rlendog (talk). Nominated by Rlendog (talk) at 02:01, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length and citation verified for both species. Canada Hky (talk) 03:31, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of number-one singles from the 1960s (UK)

... that The Beatles (pictured) had 17 number-one singles during the 1960s in the United Kingdom?

5x expanded by Rambo's Revenge (talk). Self nom at 23:05, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion, date and hook ref verified. —Bruce1ee^talk 15:29, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dan Kiesel

... that Dan Kiesel was hired as physiotherapist for the Sri Lankan cricket team upon the recommendation of Australian fast-bowler Dennis Lillee?

Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 23:01, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sinan Pasha Mosque, Prizren

... that the Sinan Pasha Mosque of Prizren (pictured) was built in 1615, but still conserves its original stone flooring and carpentry?

Created by Sulmues (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 21:55, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is it pavement or stone flooring? --Rosiestep (talk) 22:08, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's stone flooring, according to the source. I changed it. --Local hero ^talk 22:15, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:35, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of successful English Channel swimmers

~~... that Thomas William Burgess (pictured), who in 1911 became the second man to swim across the English Channel, trained Gertrude Ederle for her successful crossing in 1926?~~
~~Created/expanded by Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk). Nominated by Alansohn (talk) at 21:17, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]~~

~~Ineligible for DYK. The article was created on Aug 11, 2009 and has not been edited since Dec 12, 2009. Nsk92 (talk) 08:53, 9 August 2010 (UTC)~~[reply]

I think the nomination originally meant to be for List of successful English Channel swimmers, an article currently under AfD, but that has a snowball's chance in hell to be deleted. so The correct hook should be :

... that Thomas William Burgess (pictured), who in 1911 became the second man to swim across the English Channel, trained Gertrude Ederle for her successful crossing in 1926?

--Maashatra11 (talk) 09:01, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fact, length, hook and date all verified. Maashatra11 (talk) 09:05, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You are probably right that the nominator meant to nominate List of successful English Channel swimmers - the section heading here needs to be fixed. I am removing the checkmark for now for two reasons. First, even if the AfD outcome is not in doubt, an entry technically cannot be promoted until the AfD is closed. Second, I looked at List of successful English Channel swimmers and I don't see any mention there of Burgess having coached Gertrude Ederle. Nsk92 (talk) 09:12, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have changed the section heading here to List of successful English Channel swimmers. Nsk92 (talk) 09:20, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have merged the information of the hook from Thomas William Burgess to List of successful English Channel swimmers. Now it should be ok when AFD is closed. Utter mess... Maashatra11 (talk) 09:31, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, except for the still open AfD, now everything looks in order. I have double-checked the date and the 5x+ expansion - both check out. There is also now a mention of the hook fact in the article with an (offline) ref. Nsk92 (talk) 09:41, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Buckminster Fuller Challenge

... that The Buckminster Fuller Challenge awards $100,000 every year for solutions to solve pressing complex global problems?

Created by Nameiswillis (talk). Nominated by Chzz (talk) at 21:16, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Milwaukee Does

... that on December 9, 1978, the Milwaukee Does lost to the Chicago Hustle by a score of 92–87 in the first game played in Women's Professional Basketball League history?

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 20:54, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Colonia Asturias

... that Colonia Asturias in Mexico City is named after the first major football stadium built in this city?

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 20:50, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Egyptian Camel Transport Corps

... that Australian and British members of the Egyptian Camel Transport Corps were often bitten by the camels they were handling?

Created by RoslynSKP (talk). Nominated by Fetchcomms (talk) at 18:54, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mission of the Guardian Angel

... that the Mission of the Guardian Angel was a Jesuit mission that existed in what is now Chicago, Illinois from 1696 to 1700?

Created by JeremyA (talk). Self nom at 18:12, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chess (poem)

... that the game described in the sixteenth-century poem Chess (front page pictured) was reconstructed almost 350 years later?

Created by ArCgon (talk). Self nom at 17:59, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, age, and hook citation all check out. Good to go, and very interesting article. Took me a while to spot the mate myself :) GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 22:55, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1996 Pepsi Sharjah Cup

... that Gary Kirsten was the leading batsman in the 1996 Pepsi Sharjah Cup, scoring 356 runs in 7 innings at an average of 89.0?

Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 16:51, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sukkah City

... that you missed the deadline for entering the Sukkah City design competition?

created by AMuseo, talk. Self nom Sukkah City| 6 August 2010 (UTC)

It would also be possible to hold this for On this Day..." Sukkot Sept. 22.AMuseo (talk) 16:13, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

We shouldn't hold thinks for more than a month.

ALT1 that, (although city rules may differ), the published rules for Sukkah City, an architecture contest scheduled for New York's Union Square Park, allow one wall to be made from a dead whale?
ALT2 that entrants in the Sukkah City architecture contest are allowed to erect their buildings atop a live camel (pictured)?

John H. Nichols House

... that one of the windows in the John H. Nichols House (pictured) in Wapakoneta, Ohio bears the incised names of several of Nichols' children?

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 16:11, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tag (advertisement)

... that the 2001 Tag for Nike was voted one of the top ten advertisements of the decade by Campaign magazine?

Created by Arbitrarily0 (talk), GeeJo (talk). Self nom at 15:44, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed ALT ... that Nike's 2001 Tag ad campaign was voted one of the top ten advertisements of the decade by Campaign magazine? Canada Hky (talk) 03:40, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Amelia Gade Corson

... that Amelia Gade Corson's successful swim across the English Channel was paid for by L. Walter Lissberger, who covered the $3,000 cost and then collected $100,000 from Lloyd's of London at 20–1 odds?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:26, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The refs for the fact are subscription-only, which is a pity, since I have a nagging doubt about the odds. If he paid an insurance premium of $5,000 to pay out $100,000, those odds are 19–1 (at 20–1 he would collect $105,000 including his stake, but insurance premiums are not usually refunded for a settled claim). In the alternate, his premium would have been $+100,000⁄21 or $4,761.90. In any case, I am not sure it is appropriate to describe the payout in betting language, but it's hard to tell without being able to see the source. Si Trew (talk) 23:08, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Campanula zoysii

... that the flower Campanula zoysii (pictured) is considered a symbol of the Slovenian Alps?

Created by Alekjds (talk). Self nom at 14:03, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, and source for hook all verified. Nice job, Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 17:14, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Veste Landskron

... that the Pomeranian Renaissance castle Veste Landskron (tower pictured) was abandoned after it deteriorated during the Thirty Years' and Scanian Wars?

Created by Skäpperöd (talk). Nominated by Skäpperöd (talk) at 13:12, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: The English version of the source for the hook fact [4] says "it was damaged in both the 30 Years and Swedish Brandenburg wars". This note is to clarify that "Swedish Brandenburg war" is regarded a theater of the Scanian War in Anglo-Saxon historiography (in contrast to German historiography, who regards it as a war on its own). I thus chose to link Scanian War, where the Swedish-Brandenburgian war/theater is explained. Skäpperöd (talk) 06:18, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Johan Christoffer Boklund

... that Swedish artist Johan Christoffer Boklund taught painting to King Charles XV of Sweden at the Royal Swedish Academy of Arts?

Created by Theleftorium (talk). Nominated by Theleftorium (talk) at 12:18, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date and length verified. AGF on the Swedish source. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 05:00, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pseudosiobla cambelli

... that the extinct sawfly Pseudosiobla cambelli is one of three species of Pseudosiobla known from the fossil record?

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 03:40, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Henry Sullivan, List of successful English Channel swimmers

... that in 1923, Henry Sullivan became the third person, and the first American, to swim across the English Channel, finishing the crossing from Dover to Calais in 27 hours and 45 minutes?

Created by Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk), Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 03:38, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note that List of successful English Channel swimmers is currently at AfD (see here). Though the issues raised there appear to have been addressed, I would suggest that we hold off on approving this nomination until the AfD is resolved. Alansohn (talk) 03:46, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note that List of successful English Channel swimmers is already nominated for DYK in another hook (see Template_talk:Did_you_know#List of successful English Channel swimmers). Maashatra11 (talk) 10:23, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Monheim Town Hall

... that the long hidden ceilings of the Monheim Town Hall, a Jewish residence until 1741, depict scenes of the Tanakh that were only restored in 1978?

Created by Calistemon (talk). Self nom at 03:09, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Checked Creation, Source (in german), and Hook, but do you think "that weren't restored until 1978?" might sound better? シ 04:32, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Both are fine, I'm happy with either. Calistemon (talk) 12:26, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Changed "which" to "that" for grammatical purposes. Nyttend (talk) 16:13, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fraser Mansion

... that the Fraser Mansion (pictured) in Washington, D.C. was the subject of a zoning battle surrounding the construction of a seven-story apartment building on the site before purchase at foreclosure auction by the Church of Scientology?

Created by SchuminWeb (talk). Self nom at 02:48, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

At 224 characters, the hook is over the 200 limit. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 17:55, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that the Fraser Mansion (pictured) in Washington, D.C. was the subject of a zoning battle before purchase at foreclosure auction by the Church of Scientology? -- ALT1 hook, suggested. -- Cirt (talk) 18:18, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think the new wording seems to work... SchuminWeb (Talk) 20:06, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 5

Egyptian Labour Corps

... that the duties of the Egyptian Labour Corps during World War I included forming an anti-mosquito squad?

Created by RoslynSKP (talk). Nominated by Fetchcomms (talk) at 17:20, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if it is me; however, it almost currently reads more like a research essay than an encyclopedia article (intro, body, conclusion) Would ask for it to be slightly wikified (broken into sections). It is appears a little of a stretch to say they formed an anti-mosquito squad as it was more likely a particular work detail rather than a squad of specially trained anti-mosquito soldiers as would be implied;) However; it is a bit quirky and would AGF on the offline reference. Could even maybe work as an April fools nominations as they allow a bit less discretion with how the hook fact is presented. Calmer Waters 05:01, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The author has worked on the style a bit; I don't care if you want to keep this for next April or whatnot. —fetch ·comms 19:02, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Maharishi Peace Palace

... that filmmaker David Lynch raised $1 billion to help the Maharishi Vedic Education Development Corporation build 3,000 Maharishi Peace Palaces?

Created by Will Beback (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 19:46, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 14:16, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

First African Methodist Episcopal Church of Los Angeles

~~... that the First African Methodist Episcopal Church of Los Angeles (pictured) is the oldest church founded by African Americans in Los Angeles?~~

ALT1:... that former U.S. President George W. Bush named the First African Methodist Episcopal Church of Los Angeles (pictured) the 177th Point of Light for its outreach in community services?
ALT2:... that the First African Methodist Episcopal Church of Los Angeles (pictured) has a congregation of more than 19,000 members?

Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 19:46, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, hook ref all verified. I prefer ALT2 for the sheer number of congregants in this seemingly small-looking building! Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 14:20, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of National Basketball Association seasons

... that the 1995–96 Chicago Bulls is the only National Basketball Association (NBA) team to win at least 70 games in a single season?

5x expanded by Martin tamb (talk). Self nom at 17:00, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Stojan Osojnak

... that Stojan Osojnak played for Dinamo Zagreb in the club's first-ever match, a friendly against the Yugoslav Air Force team in June 1945?

Created by Timbouctou (talk). Self nom at 05:28, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length OK. Foreign-language hook ref AGF. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:24, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander Archipelago Wolf

... that the Alexander Archipelago Wolf preys on Sitka black-tailed deer 90% of the time, being the only North American wolf subspecies to primarily eat only a single type of animal?

Created by Silver seren (talk). Self nom at 02:51, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I do not see anything about this wolf diet in citation #7... only something about a genetic marker.Thelmadatter (talk) 14:49, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It says "such as feeding habits that differ from other wolf populations within North America." It's feeding habits involve eating the Sitka black-tailed deer 90% of the time, as stated by the Conservation assessment ref. If that doesn't work, I can suggest an Alt.

(Alt 1) ... that the constant logging in the Tongass National Forest in Alaska has put the stability of the Alexander Archipelago Wolf population at risk? Silverseren^C 16:15, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Tongass Forest is not mentioned by name in the article. Could you find a source for the original hook and use it to support #7?Thelmadatter (talk) 21:28, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'd much rather use the Alt actually. And this source discusses both the forest and the Alexander Archipelago Wolf. Silverseren^C 21:36, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Micrurus nigrocinctus

... that apart from eating smaller lizards and amphibians, the Central American coral snake also feeds on other snakes?

Created by Arjuno3 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 18:43, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Everything is in order, entry verified. Nsk92 (talk) 11:12, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Aurora of November 17, 1882

... that a geomagnetic storm in 1882 resulted in unusual phenomena reported in various parts of the world as an "auroral beam", a "blood red" sky, and a "luminous mass, shaped somewhat like a torpedo"?

Created by Svejk74 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 10:08, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go hook IGF. It would be a good idea to link aurora events with a template.Thelmadatter (talk) 15:28, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Obama Anak Menteng (film)

... that the drama film Obama Anak Menteng, a fictionalized recreation of Barack Obama's boyhood in Indonesia, was originally intended to premeire during his planned state visit?

Created by MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 02:07, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and hook refs verified. I tweaked the hook a little. —Bruce1ee^talk 14:50, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Conscience of Fatherland

... that CONDEPA was the first major political party in Bolivia that appealed to the cultural identity of the indigenous majority of the country?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 01:49, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length OK. Foreign-language hook ref AGF. However, the article is written very sketchily. I copy-edited it for clarity, and did not find enough information for a smooth narrative. It is unclear when the party first won election, and where (countrywide? mayoral?). Can you find more to say about how party leaders acted/voted while in office? Yoninah (talk) 20:53, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I could do some expansion of the article, but after a few days. --Soman (talk) 02:42, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Atlantic Coast High School

... that Atlantic Coast High School is Jacksonville, Florida's first public high school built in 20 years, and at $78 million, the most expensive?

Created by Mgreason (talk). Self nom at 16:47, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Devil's Jumps, Churt

... that the series of small hills known as the Devil's Jumps near Churt in southern England were once said to have been kicked up by the Devil when he stole the cauldron from a local witch?

Created by Simon Burchell (talk). Self nom at 14:57, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

offline sources AGF. Good story! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thelmadatter (talk • contribs) 19:10, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1949 Ambato earthquake

... that the 1949 Ambato earthquake, which killed 5,050 people, caused an entire town to sink 1,500 feet into the ground?

Created by Ceranthor (talk). Nominated by Ceranthor (talk) at 12:12, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

good to go. Poor folks.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Thelmadatter (talk • contribs) 11:14, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Kent Island (California)

... that Kent Island (pictured), a national wildlife sanctuary in California's Bolinas Lagoon, was saved from development as a 1,500 boat marina by a last-second political vote?

Created by Jusdafax (talk). Nominated by Jusdafax 05:36, 6 August 2010 (UTC) [reply]

Battle of Flores (1591)

... that in the Battle of Flores (illustrated), a naval engagement of the 1585 Anglo-Spanish War, the English fleet was outnumbered 41 warships by the Spanish fleet?

Created by ElBufon (talk). Nominated by Bejinhan (talk) at 03:35, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lonesome Day

... that Bruce Springsteen recorded the vocal of "Lonesome Day" live for each take of its music video, unlike common practice?

Created by Rlendog (talk). Nominated by Rlendog (talk) at 01:30, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified, offline hook ref accepted in good faith. —Bruce1ee^talk 15:01, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Time Sculpture

... that Toshiba's 2008 television advertisement Time Sculpture holds the world record for the highest number of moving-image cameras used in a composite shot?

Created by GeeJo (talk). Self nom at 22:53, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, hook ref all verified. Well-done article. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:03, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Registrar of the University of Oxford

... that one 16th-century Registrar of the University of Oxford was dismissed after neglecting his duties for a year, then imprisoned and fined after throwing a punch when the debate had ended?

Created by Bencherlite (talk). Self nom at 22:49, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date and length confirmed; hook verified in good faith (online source requiring subscription). Splendid job and very interesting hook! Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 23:17, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas Pye

... that the president of the court martial for Sir Hugh Palliser, Admiral Sir Thomas Pye, had himself been court martialled earlier in his career?

Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 22:37, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date and article length verified. hook length OK. Hook fact verified, offline ref (online version is available but requires subscription) accepted per AGF. Nsk92 (talk) 16:24, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bridgeport & Port Jefferson Ferry

... that besides hosting the Barnum & Bailey Circus, and being Mayor of Bridgeport, P.T. Barnum also founded the Bridgeport & Port Jefferson Ferry in 1883?

Created by Markvs88. Self nom at 21:15, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

As of the moment, DYKcheck has the article weighing in at 1326 characters of prose, which excludes all of the bulleted text, and leaves it short of the 1,500-character benchmark. In addition to converting some of the bullets into prose, the article's existing text (which includes such weak content as the address of the company) should be expanded with some more meaningful content. Alansohn (talk) 21:41, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, was unaware of the requirements, will expand the article this week... Best, Markvs88 (talk) 01:39, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've beefed up the article, please reconsider or let me know what else it might need. Thanks again, Markvs88 (talk) 17:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Simpsons: Bart & the Beanstalk

... that the plot of the platform video game The Simpsons: Bart & the Beanstalk mimics that of the classic fairy tale Jack and the Beanstalk?

5x expanded by Theleftorium (talk). Nominated by Theleftorium (talk) at 21:09, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- ready Dincher (talk) 22:49, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unacceptable; work of fiction with no real-world context. DS (talk) 23:37, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that applies here, since it doesn't actually mention what the plot is about, but this will probably be a better hook:

... that the platform video game The Simpsons: Bart & the Beanstalk, released in 1994 for the Game Boy, parodies the classic fairy tale Jack and the Beanstalk?

H. O. West

... that H. O. West dropped out of Louisiana College to work at a lumber mill before he assembled a chain of thirty-three department stores?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 20:48, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- ready for DYK Dincher (talk) 22:54, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Randy Johnson's perfect game

... that at the age of 40, Randy Johnson pitched a perfect game, making him the oldest person to do so in Major League Baseball history?

Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 20:47, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- ready for DYK Dincher (talk) 22:56, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fedspeak

... that Fedspeak was a turgid dialect of English used by Federal Reserve Board chairmen in making intentionally wordy, vague, and ambiguous statements, often used as a euphemism with little substance.

ALT1:... that Fedspeak was a deliberately confusing and carefully rehearsed cryptic language meant to "give people a sense that there's no way they could understand economics and finance" and thus allowing the Federal Reserve to manage the economy with less interference.

Created by Smallman12q (talk). Nominated by Smallman12q (talk) at 18:55, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Twin Pimples raid

... that the Twin Pimples raid was carried out by No. 8 Commando and Australian Engineers in 1941, during the siege of Tobruk?

Self nom by --Jim Sweeney (talk) 21:54, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing wrong here; good job, and ready for the Main Page. Nyttend (talk) 16:21, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

James P. Vreeland

... that as part of efforts to balance New Jersey's $2.76 billion budget in 1976, State Senator James P. Vreeland proposed cutting the governor's annual salary by $2,500?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 18:37, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length OK. Offline hook ref (needs subscription) AGF. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:19, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Lazarus Effect (film)

... that according to (RED), providing health-restoring antiretroviral drugs to HIV positive people in Africa, as described in the documentary The Lazarus Effect, costs US$0.40 per person per day?

5x expanded by Jayen466 (talk). Self nom at 17:14, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dixeia pigea

Add rollover text!

... that the Ant-heap Small White butterfly (pictured) has an unusual shaped pupa and that the adult females come in several colour forms?

Created by Michaelwild (talk). Nominated by Michaelwild (talk) at 15:30, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Two sections "eggs" and "pupae" are lacking citations. Cool butterflyThelmadatter (talk) 23:31, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

24th Legislative District (New Jersey)

... that when Robert Littell and Alison Littell McHose were elected in 2004 to the 24th Legislative District, they became the first father-daughter pair to serve together in the New Jersey Legislature?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:20, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, hook ref all verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:32, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bart Simpson's Escape from Camp Deadly

... ~~that the Simpsons game Bart Simpson's Escape from Camp Deadly is similar to the Simpsons episode "Kamp Krusty" in the sense that they both revolve around an unpleasant summer camp?~~

5x expanded by Theleftorium (talk). Nominated by Theleftorium (talk) at 14:27, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unacceptable: compares one work of fiction to another work of fiction, with no real-world context. DS (talk) 23:38, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Changed hook:

... that the platformer Bart Simpson's Escape from Camp Deadly was the first The Simpsons video game to be released on a handheld console?
- - Better. DS (talk) 11:25, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Wintzer Building

... that the Charles Wintzer Building (pictured) in Wapakoneta, Ohio was built as a combination house-and-tannery?

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 14:11, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Which reference source in the article verifies that it was built as a "was built as a combination house-and-tannery"? I assume it is one of the two offline sources? Cheers, Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 20:49, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's citation #2. The key sentence is "Its architecture is that of warehouses along the Miami and Erie Canal; although the Wintzers were Germans and built their home-and-office building in a German style, it includes distinct Italianate elements." Do you want me to quote from the source? Nyttend (talk) 20:53, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Moreover, citation #4 talks about it being a tannery and producing a certain number of tanning products; that source is online, if you want to consult it. Nyttend (talk) 20:54, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Splendid, thanks! I've made a slight change to reflect this. Date and length confirmed with offline source verified in good faith. Excellent work, Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 21:03, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander Day

... that con man Alexander Day used the name Marmaduke Davenport Esq. to convince his victims that he was a member of the gentry in order to gain purchasing credit, which he would never repay?

Created by Mattgirling (talk). Self nom at 13:52, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- ready for DYK. Dincher (talk) 23:03, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

William Morfill

... that William Morfill was the first professor of Russian in Britain?

Created by Bencherlite (talk). Self nom at 13:37, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date and length confirmed; offline source for hook verified in good faith. Nice work, Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 20:55, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Glass Joe

... that Glass Joe is considered one of Nintendo's most iconic characters, and has been used as a term to signify failure or weakness?

Created by New Age Retro Hippie (talk). Nominated by New Age Retro Hippie (talk) at 10:21, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ready for DYK. Dincher (talk) 23:09, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unacceptable. Work of fiction with no real-world context. DS (talk) 23:39, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Soda Popinski

... that Nintendo character Soda Popinski used to be known as Vodka Drunkenski, as part of one of several Russian stereotypes used for the character?

Created by New Age Retro Hippie (talk). Nominated by New Age Retro Hippie (talk) at 10:21, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nintendo and possibly Punch-Out should be in this hook. Dincher (talk) 23:13, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unacceptable. Work of fiction with no real-world context. DS (talk) 23:39, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- ready for DYK. Dincher (talk) 23:25, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mona Bell

... that Mona Bell, mistress of entrepreneur Samuel Hill, claimed to have performed in Buffalo Bill Cody's Wild West Show?

Created by Jmabel (talk). Self nom at 04:48, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, and hook are good. Online source contains everything that's cited to it, and assuming that the print source does likewise. Nyttend (talk) 14:24, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Teaneck Kebab House

... that the owner of the Afghan cuisine restaurant Teaneck Kebab House fled Kabul in 1985 during the Soviet war in Afghanistan?

Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 03:31, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, hook ref all verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 14:29, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas C. Peebles, Measles vaccine

... that Dr. Thomas C. Peebles, who went on to isolate the measles virus strain used in the measles vaccine, was initially rejected by Harvard Medical School because he had gotten a D in college biology?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 02:00, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Measles vaccine is a 5x expansion added to the hook after it was first posted. Alansohn (talk) 02:33, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ektatotricha

... that the extinct rove beetle genus Ektatotricha is known from fifteen beetles trapped in Cretaceous amber from Myanmar?

5x expanded by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 01:28, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nezami Mausoleum

... that Nezami Mausoleum on the grave of the 12th century poet Nezāmī Ganjavī in the city of Ganja, Azerbaijan, was originally built in 1947 in place of an old collapsed tomb, and rebuilt in its present form in 1991?

5x expanded by Grandmaster (talk). Nominated by Grandmaster (talk) at 19:51, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 4

Kantilal Kanjee

... that in 1975 Zimbabwean Kantilal Kanjee became the first non-white umpire to stand in a first-class cricket match in South Africa?

Created by Testing times (talk). Self nom at 17:40, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length OK. However, I do not see the hook fact in the source. Yoninah (talk) 22:05, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good point. I have added a specific citation. -- Testing times (talk) 18:52, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Offline source AGF. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:50, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Arani Jayaprakash

... that Arani Jayaprakash was the umpire at the bowler's end when Anil Kumble dismissed all 10 Pakistan batsmen in a Test cricket match in 1999?

Created by Testing times (talk). Self nom at 17:40, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As requested on my talk page, I made the inline links into footnotes now. -- Testing times (talk) 18:52, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Date, length, hook ref all verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:07, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Blackfriars, St Andrews

... that the former Dominican friary in St Andrews, Blackfriars, was destroyed in 1559 by Scottish Protestants?

Created by Deacon of Pndapetzim (talk). Nominated by Deacon of Pndapetzim (talk) at 02:43, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length OK. However, the whole article is based on one source. Can you add another source(s) per D12? Yoninah (talk) 22:15, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I added another source. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 13:50, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I meant another inline source. All the inline citations are from one book. Yoninah (talk) 18:45, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Look more closely, Yoninah. You got another inline citation. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 21:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, now I see where you sneaked it in. I split them into two separate citations. Everything's good now and offline ref AGF. Yoninah (talk) 22:13, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ivan Ziatyk

... that the Ukrainian priest Ivan Ziatyk was persecuted by the Soviet government for "spreading the Catholic Faith"?

Created by Albanman (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 03:06, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Vera Henriksen

... that novelist Vera Henriksen has also written two volumes of the History of the Royal Norwegian Air Force?

5x expanded by Hauganm (talk), Oceanh (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 19:17, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date and 5x+ expansion verified. Hook length OK, hook fact verified; foreign language ref accepted per AGF. Nsk92 (talk) 11:24, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Way Off Broadway Dinner Theatre

... that the Way Off Broadway Dinner Theatre presents both Broadway-style mainstage productions and original adaptations of aimed at children?

Created by BetseyBrannen (talk). Nominated by Chzz (talk) at 22:57, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Abraham Pether

... that artist Abraham "Moonlight" Pether (1756-1812) acquired his nick-name from his skill at painting moonlit landscapes?

Created by Shadygrove2007 (talk). Self nom at 22:19, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan Wittman

... that despite being offered a scholarship by college basketball powerhouse Indiana, Ryan Wittman chose to walk on to the Cornell basketball team?

Created by Editorofthewiki (talk). Self nom at 05:42, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Pinos

... that during the Battle of Pinos most of the English fleet managed to escape from the Spanish fleet by abandoning their boats and throwing their baggage into the water?

Created by ElBufon (talk). Nominated by Bejinhan (talk) at 03:55, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, and hook verified while AGF for offline references Calmer Waters 05:20, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Widows' Almshouses, Nantwich

... that Roger Wilbraham founded the Widows' Almshouses (pictured) in Nantwich, Cheshire, in memory of his wife, who died on the first anniversary of the death of their eldest son?

Created by Espresso Addict (talk). Self nom at 01:53, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The World's 25 Most Endangered Primates

... that seven species of primate, including the Silky Sifaka (Propithecus candidus) (pictured), have been listed among The World's 25 Most Endangered Primates since the list began in 2000?

Created by Visionholder (talk). Nominated by Visionholder (talk) at 00:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length and sources check out. Creation date appears to actually be Aug. 5 in Wikipedia time, but that does not impact eligibility. Nice work! Rlendog (talk) 01:10, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Although I've uncovered an alternate hook that might be more appealing. (Feel free to copyedit.) Also, the title may be changing soon, pending a discussion at WT:FLC. – VisionHolder « talk » 01:33, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that all of the surviving individuals of the species listed in the The World's 25 Most Endangered Primates, which includes the Silky Sifaka (Propithecus candidus) (pictured) ~~and others~~, could fit into a single football stadium?

Source for the ALT checks out too and may be more interesting. I struck the "and others" because I think it is redundant and I think it should be "include" rather than "includes" since "species" is being used as a plural, but feel free to restore if I messed this up. Rlendog (talk) 02:12, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is Russell Mittermeier's claim and we will never be able to verify it. How big is a football stadium, anyway? Compared to the CFL, the NFL has smaller fields but more seats. Not sure about Aussie league football, or even "soccer". --PFHLai (talk) 18:55, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

We could adjust it:

ALT1a: ... that according to Conservation International's president, Russell Mittermeier, all of the surviving individuals of the species listed in the The World's 25 Most Endangered Primates, which include the Silky Sifaka (pictured), could fit into a single football stadium?

Either way, the list/article itself makes it clear that this is a claim made by Mittermeier and cites a source for the claim. Aren't DYK hooks supposed to be teasers anyway? – VisionHolder « talk » 21:08, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but whatever gets on MainPage needs to be stand-alone verifiable facts stated in a short, clearly-worded hook. ALT1a has 266 characters. --PFHLai (talk) 22:33, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I thought about the "what kind of football stadium" issue when I approved the ALT, but concluded that it doesn't matter. The original and the hook just state "a football stadium", not "every football stadium" or "every type of football stadium". So there just needs to be "a" football stadium of some sort for which this statement works. I am not sure about verifying Mittermeier's facts independently, since he is the lead author of the study. But I think it can be done, though it starts to border on WP:OR (although since it basically only uses counting and simple arithmetic, which are not considered OR, it may be doable if necessary. There are species counts listed for 18 of the 25 species on the list. Those species counts add up to about 42,000 animals. The max listed is under 10,000. So even if the 7 missing are all at the maximum of the counts listed, that produces 70,000 more animals, for a total of 112,000. Since the Rose Bowl has held over 108,000 spectators, not counting the field, it is clear that 112,000 primates (less than 7000 of which are larger than humans) would fit in the Rose Bowl, which is a football stadium. However, if attributing the quote within the hook remains necessary, that can be done by sacrificing the picture:

ALT3 - ... that Conservation International's president claims that all of the surviving individuals of the species in the The World's 25 Most Endangered Primates could fit into a single football stadium? Rlendog (talk) 16:00, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(alt.hook2)... that five endangered species currently listed on The World's 25 Most Endangered Primates can be found in Vietnam and another five in Madagascar? --PFHLai (talk) 18:55, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Btw, I'm not opposed to this hook, although I strongly prefer either the original hook or ALT1/ALT1a instead. – VisionHolder « talk » 21:08, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Santa Veracruz Church, Mexico City

... that the Santa Veracruz Church in Mexico City had almost all of its rich interior decoration destroyed at the beginning of the 20th century?

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 23:27, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, hook ref all verified. But the hook isn't so exciting, and there are exciting things to say about the church, like:
ALT1: ... that the altarpiece of the Santa Veracruz Church in Mexico City is said to contain a splinter of the original cross of Jesus, authenticated by the Vatican? Yoninah (talk) 19:02, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Swimming Reindeer

... that a railway constructor found the Swimming Reindeer (pictured), a 13,000 year old Ice Age sculpture made with flint tools, by chance in his spare time?

Created by Victuallers (talk). Nominated by Bubba hotep (talk) at 22:52, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article does not state that the sculpture was carved with flint tools (of course that would be the obvious inference). I don't think the hook is that interesting anyway; how about:
ALT 1 - ... that the Swimming Reindeer (pictured), a 13,000 year old Ice Age sculpture, was originally thought to be two separate reindeer sculptures? BabelStone (talk) 23:41, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, it did say at the time that they were flint tools, but Victuallers has done a lot more work since. Can something be added to your ALT like "...until someone put them together..." – B.hotep •talk• 12:04, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jaydiohead

... that rapper Jay-Z and alternative rock band Radiohead shared playing Glastonbury Festival, and now share songs on the album Jaydiohead?

5x expanded by Theornamentalist (talk). Nominated by Theornamentalist (talk) at 21:05, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 1 - ... that other than Glastonbury Festival, Jay-Z and Radiohead have both appeared on Jaydiohead? - similar, but I think it sounds better. - Theornamentalist (talk) 17:00, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Meryem Erdoğan

... that Ethiopian born Meryem Erdoğan, who was impressed by her countrywoman Elvan Abeylegesse's success, illegally immigrated to Turkey at age of 16 in order to became a runner?

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self nom at 19:00, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You might want to rephrase, or link to the appropriate track and field page. I'm pretty sure you don't mean this "runner" or this "runner" in the hook. --PFHLai (talk) 19:03, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Curiously, it seems we don't have a 100% suitable article to link "runner" to. The best fit is probably long-distance track event, even if she seems to have competed in a couple road races, so I've linked it there for the nominator. Sideways713 (talk) 09:29, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sideways713! You were faster than me. Thanks a lot for adding the wikilink requested. CeeGee (talk) 09:45, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Still not perfect though. What do you think of
ALT1: ... that Ethiopian-born Meryem Erdoğan, impressed by her countrywoman Elvan Abeylegesse's success, illegally immigrated to Turkey at age 16 in order to become a distance runner? Sideways713 (talk) 14:09, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted the information in the artile about her setting the U23 record for 10000m womens since disputed.CeeGee (talk) 07:06, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The current hook reference (Mark Butler/European Athletics' mini biography) only mentions immigrating to Turkey in 2006 (~at age 16); it doesn't specify her as an illegal immigrant. If her illegal status is noted in one of the Turkish references (or some other Turkish-language reliable sources), those should be used instead. Sideways713 (talk) 15:47, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done All three references [5][6][7] at the end of the following sentence say so. However, they unfortunately are in Turkish. I know that it is possible to get foreign language texts translated roughly into English by using web translators. Anyway, for to be sure I added the three refs at the requested place. I kindly ask you to leave a note to my talk page, if you would have any further request, so I can react on time before the hook gets expired or even rejected.CeeGee (talk) 19:57, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bloodymania

... that Bloodymania wrestling events have featured such competitors as former WWF Champion Diesel and UFC Hall of Famer Ken Shamrock?

Created by Juggalobrink (talk). Nominated by GaryColemanFan (talk) at 05:49, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New Jersey Gems

... that Ann Meyers signed with the New Jersey Gems in 1979, with her $50,000 salary matching what she had been paid by the Indiana Pacers in her bid to become the first woman to play in the NBA?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 00:42, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- ready. Dincher (talk) 23:33, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Goldich dissolution series

... that the Goldich dissolution series predicts which minerals are stable on the earth's surface?

Created by Qfl247 (talk). Self nom at 23:33, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article currently has only about 550 characters of prose. By WP:DYK rules, 1500 characters of prose is the hard minimum. If the article is expanded quickly to the required size, it may still qualify for DYK. Nsk92 (talk) 16:56, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, there is not much to add... I am going to add a picture soon, but it's pretty cut and dry, and what is said is all that can be said without adding fluff. Sorry, I was unaware of that rule, I will keep it in mind in the future. QFL 24-7 ^{bla ¤ cntrb ¤ kids ¤ pics ¤ vids} 17:46, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pakasuchus

... that the recently described notosuchian crocodyliform Pakasuchus had molar-like teeth that were as complex as those of carnivorous mammals?

Created by Ferahgo the Assassin (talk). Nominated by Smokeybjb (talk) at 23:16, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, and hook verified Calmer Waters 05:38, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Murray Hotel

... that Sam Peckinpah, director of the The Wild Bunch, lived in a three room suite at The Murray Hotel in Livingston, Montana from 1979 to 1984?

Created by Mike Cline (talk). Self nom at 22:40, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

moved "director" Victuallers (talk) 22:48, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bartman Meets Radioactive Man

... ~~that in the platform game Bartman Meets Radioactive Man, Bart Simpson ventures into a comic book universe to rescue his kidnapped idol, superhero Radioactive Man?~~

Created by Theleftorium (talk). Nominated by Theleftorium (talk) at 22:29, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- ready Dincher (talk) 23:35, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unacceptable. Work of fiction (and metafiction) with no real-world context. DS (talk) 23:41, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Changed hook:

... that the platformer Bartman Meets Radioactive Man from 1992 was the second Nintendo Entertainment System game to star Bart Simpson?

Better. Not a great hook, but acceptable. DS (talk) 11:29, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Prince Frederick of Württemberg

... that Prince Frederick of Württemberg attained the rank of Rittmeister 2nd class in the Army of Württemberg by the age of 15?

Created by Caponer (talk). Self nom at 21:42, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that despite his serious eye problems, Prince Frederick of Württemberg was offended when he was not offered the command of the Eighth Army Corps during the Austro-Prussian War? --Caponer (talk) 21:45, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2: ... that Prince Frederick of Württemberg died of an ulceration, which was most likely caused by a facial injury he sustained in a hunting accident?--Caponer (talk) 21:53, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Abel Pann

Sarah, Rebbecca, Leah and Rachel

... that Abel Pann broke with convention by painting Potiphar's wife as a spoilt child?

5x expand by AMuseo, talk. Self nom Abel Pann | 4 August 2010 (UTC)

ALT 1 ... that artist Abel Pann created some of his most notable work when he got stuck in Europe during WWI?
ALT 2 ... that the French government refused to allow an edition of Abel Pann's wartime work to be distributed because they "reflected damagingly" upon an Russia, an ally?

Winchester Hoard

... that a retired florist found the most important Iron Age gold objects in 50 years, the Winchester Hoard (pictured), which were probably a diplomatic gift from the Romans?

Created by Bubba hotep (talk). Self nom at 20:04, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

All fine, although I offer an alt below Victuallers (talk) 10:15, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 ... that the Winchester Hoard jewellery (pictured), thought to be a diplomatic gift from the Romans, was so chunky that no "self respecting" Roman would wear it?

I like this. – B.hotep •talk• 21:03, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John Aylesworth

... that after seeing The Beverly Hillbillies and Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In atop the Nielsen ratings, John Aylesworth created Hee Haw as a country variety show to combine the best of both genres?

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 18:11, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- ready. Dincher (talk) 23:38, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1996 Singer Cup

... that Sanath Jayasuriya scored the fastest fifty and second-fastest century in ODI cricket during the 1996 Singer Cup?

Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu (talk) at 17:01, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Eveything looks good but cit#2 reference states he "He plundered the fastest century..." Does that mean it was the record, not second fastest?--NortyNort (Holla) 10:47, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, that's the thing. It was the fastest century "then", at the time of the tourney and a little after that - it was overtaken by Shahid Afridi later in 1996. I have mentioned that in the article. I suggest the "now second-fastest century", like the wording in the article itself.

... that Sanath Jayasuriya scored the fastest fifty and the now second-fastest century in ODI cricket during the 1996 Singer Cup? Shiva (Visnu) 18:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verified. Makes sense now, I plugged one reference into the article.--NortyNort (Holla) 07:07, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Shiva (Visnu) 14:26, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Louis Fred Pfeifer

... that Louis Fred Pfeifer received the United States military's highest decoration for bravery, the Medal of Honor, while serving under a false name.

Created by Kumioko (talk). Self nom at 16:48, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date and article length verified. Interesting hook. However, there is a bit of a problem with the ref verifying the hook. Ref no. 1[8] given to verify the hook fact in the article, does not mention the subject (under either name). I suspect that you meant to give this page[9] as the ref. Also, if there is any information available as to why he served under a false name, it'd be good to mention it in the article. Nsk92 (talk) 11:40, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks and good catch I fixed the ref. Unfortunately there is no mention in any reference I have been able to locate regarding why he enlisted under a different name or how when or where he died. I will say that back in these times it was fairly common for people to enlist using false names for a variety of reasons. --Kumioko (talk) 13:16, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks. Entry verified. Nsk92 (talk) 18:47, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John McMillan's Log School

... that John McMillan's Log School, a latin school that eventually developed into Washington & Jefferson College, is the oldest educational building west of the Allegheny Mountains?

Created by GrapedApe (talk). Nominated by GrapedApe (talk) at 15:30, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hook is currently 205 characters. --NortyNort (Holla) 10:36, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- Trimmed.--GrapedApe (talk) 13:43, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Everything looks good but cit #6's reference states it "is possibly the oldest school building west of the Allegheny Mountains." So, I suggest adding "...is regarded as the..." unless you think that is too strong of wording. --NortyNort (Holla) 06:57, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of National Basketball Association head coaches

... Larry Brown is the only National Basketball Association (NBA) head coach who has coached nine different NBA teams?

Created by Martin tamb (talk). Self nom at 14:09, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article length and date all check out, as do the hook and its source. Alansohn (talk) 17:25, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Corylus johnsonii

... that the extinct hazel species Corylus johnsonii (fruit pictured) resembles three modern hazels found in China?

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 08:41, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verified, offline source AGF. It took me awhile to understand the article but now I get it. The hook is in much better layman terms. --NortyNort (Holla) 10:33, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cordoba House

... that while Mayor Mike Bloomberg said it was a "very appropriate place" to build it, polled Americans (54%–20%) opposed the construction of the Cordoba House mosque near Ground Zero (pictured)?

ALT1:... that while polled Americans (54%–20%) opposed the construction of the Cordoba House mosque near Ground Zero (pictured), its location was a selling point for the Muslims who bought the land?

Comment. This is a super-hot item in the news right now. As evidenced by the 2,400 gnews articles hits on it within the past 24 hours. So if anything can be done to expedite its speedy promotion, it might be good to catch the wave of interest ASAP.

5x expanded and self-nom by--Epeefleche (talk) 06:25, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're not saying that New Yorkers aren't Americans, are you? And how many is 'most'? How many were asked? How was the question phrased? It'd be horribly deceptive to put either of those hooks on the front page. DS (talk) 23:44, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Given both the phrasing of the question, and the existing POV problems with the article, I'm opposing this for now, as we don't want to make an impression that Wikipedia is against the Cordoba House. (We want to be neutral in it, of course.) elektrik SHOOS 21:07, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The word "polled" can be added before "most" in each hook. @Dragon – "Most" is "more than 50%". And the hook simply refers to more than half of the set "Americans", and of the subset "New Yorkers". If this is desperately confusing to all, you can delete the set or subset from the hook. As to how many were asked and how the question was phrased, that's in the refs – but we aren't here to do more than reflect the RSs, which have reported this widely. @Elektrik—no such impression is given. And the article does not have problems; its strikingly good and fulsome, actually, especially for a recently created one. Let's be on guard against editor POV censoring what is RS-supported.--Epeefleche (talk) 17:08, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Epeefleche. There a loads of reliable sources, so I don't see whats the problem with this DYK. The subject is notable... Broccoli (talk) 17:23, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article's length and sources are clearly well beyond the minimums required for DYK. From a wording standpoint, ALT1 is a bit clearer and would be my preference. The poll cited in the Daily News says 52% of new York City voters opposed the plan, which meets the textbook definition of majority. I also agree that adding the word "polled" would make the word majority clearer. Alansohn (talk) 18:31, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why use the weasely "most" when you have "52%"? Anthony (talk) 05:05, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I think both proposed hooks are problematic. Firstly, Cordoba House is a community center, not a mosque. Secondly, while it's mathematically correct to say that 52% of New Yorkers is "the majority" of New Yorkers, it's also pretty close to an even split, so using this poll to say that most New Yorkers oppose the project is misleading (especially as more Manhattanites, and people living in the neighborhood of Ground Zero, support the project than oppose it). Maybe something like:

Alt2 ... that the Cordoba House, an Islamic cultural center whose planned location near New York City's Ground Zero has sparked controversy, will include a mosque, a 500-seat auditorium, a swimming pool, a restaurant, and a bookstore.

Thanks, Cordelia Vorkosigan (talk) 02:30, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

More Manhattanites, and people living in the neighborhood of Ground Zero, support the project than oppose it. Now that's something interesting I didn't know. That should be the hook. Anthony (talk) 05:05, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Incorporated the suggestion to reflect the percentages, modifying the original hook. Also incorporated "polled" as suggested. Limited it to Americans (or could sub "New Yorkers" for parallelism, as Bloomberg is the NY mayor). The polls and controversy relate to the mosque.--Epeefleche (talk) 18:54, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go. The changes that were made made a good article even better.--Mbz1 (talk) 06:29, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Menarana

... that the Late Cretaceous madtsoiid snake Menarana had several adaptations for head-first burrowing, but its large size may have made burrowing difficult or impossible?

5x expanded by Smokeybjb (talk). Nominated by Smokeybjb (talk) at 05:47, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jack Wheeler (American football)

... that despite a slight build at 155 pounds, Jack Wheeler was the MVP of the undefeated 1930 Michigan football team and finished second in voting for the Chicago Tribune Silver Football?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 04:47, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bridge School (Michigan)

... that, when founded in 1828, the Bridge School (pictured) in Raisinville Township was the first public school in Michigan?

Created by Notorious4life (talk). Self nom at 04:43, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verified. I removed "district" per the references. They state it was the first public school in Michigan. Although it was within the state's first public school district, school and district are different. Neat article on cool history. --NortyNort (Holla) 10:27, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2010 Leinster Senior Football Championship Final

... that the 2010 Leinster Senior Football Championship Final ended in violence when fans invaded the pitch and attacked the referee?

Created by Candlewicke (talk). Self nom at 04:03, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verified. Wow, soccer fans are crazy. I wikilink'd pitch because I had no idea whatsoever what that was. You learn something new everyday.--NortyNort (Holla) 10:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Coat of arms of Albany, New York

Andrew Killian

... that Albany, New York has a life-size sculpture of its coat of arms (coat of arms pictured) that was sculpted by a local political cartoonist?

Created by UpstateNYer (talk). Self nom at 03:28, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verified, offline references AGF.--NortyNort (Holla) 10:11, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 3

1965 South Vietnamese coup

Clean-sahven man in profile in combat fatigues

Pham Ngoc Thao

... that US Ambassador Maxwell D. Taylor encouraged a 1965 overthrow of South Vietnam's Nguyen Khanh, and the first attempt was then made by the communist agent Pham Ngoc Thao (pictured)?

Created by YellowMonkey (talk). Self nom at 06:31, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verified. Offline references AGF. The picture may not accompany the hook because of the recent backlog.--NortyNort (Holla) 09:58, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

December 1964 South Vietnamese coup

... that the December 1964 South Vietnamese coup prompted both US Ambassador Maxwell D. Taylor (pictured) and Vietnamese leader General Nguyen Khanh to tell one another to leave the country?

Created by YellowMonkey (talk). Self nom at 06:31, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Everything looks good except the context of the hook towards the article and the picture. It seemed Khanh threatened Taylor with expulsion from the country while Taylor agreed to Khanh wanting to leave, so I didn't read them telling each other to leave. Also, in order for the picture to accompany the hook, it should be of the article being nominated. The backlog may cause it to not accompany the hook. Ultimately, you can't really take a picture of a coup. The article is an interesting event. --NortyNort (Holla) 09:43, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I made it explicit in the article per Kahin saying that Taylor "told him to resign and leave the country". As for the photo I used to update DYK alot in 2006-early 2008 and had a policy of favouring more developed articles, although my recent experience suggests that other updaters don't think so :(; I wasn't aware of any rule that the photo must be specifically of an event rather than a key player in the event, but it's the admin's free choice in any case. Obviously many don't have the same criteria as I do :( YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 07:12, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That exact phrase above isn't in the article but I found the spot where he told him to resign. This is a good detailed and long article, I'd suggest clarifying that in the lead as I assume it happened in the same meeting. I don't think the picture is bad for the hook and article (it follows the rules) but was just giving a heads up about the backlog with tighter constraints. I had a hook lose its picture last week even though the picture was of the subject, a dam I believe. Some are pretty bad though where let's say the picture isn't in the article and it is of something associated or compared with the subject in the main article.--NortyNort (Holla) 15:01, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

St Nicholas Hospital, St Andrews

... that St Nicholas Hospital, St Andrews, was originally a leper hospital?

Created by Deacon of Pndapetzim (talk). Nominated by Deacon of Pndapetzim (talk) at 02:50, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- Nominated 5 days after creating page (4 August), so just made it in (I think) - Everything else looks good (length, verified information from online source). - Jwoodger (talk) 06:30, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Henry Sass

... that Vanity Fair author William Thackeray was a student at Henry Sass's art academy in London, which he later caricatured in his novel, The Newcomes?

Created by Shadygrove2007 (talk). Self nom at 09:39, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Street pastors

... that street pastors were founded to tackle gang culture in UK cities, and are now well-known for handing out flip-flops to tottering clubbers?

Created by Fayenatic london (talk). Self nom at 08:07, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Citation and reference needed for "Street Pastors were founded to tackle gang culture in the UK".

- That's in the History section with a citation from the Independent. The flip-flops are under "Services provided". - Fayenatic (talk) 01:00, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2010 Nigel nursing home fire

... that a recent fire at a nursing home in Nigel, Gauteng burned residents to death in their own beds?

Created by Eugen Simion 14 (talk). Expanded and nominated by Candlewicke (talk) at 05:15, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Would prefer if hook specified a date for event, rather than using recent - Jwoodger (talk) 05:18, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's also kind of sick, especially to have it on the main page so soon after. Could the hook include a death toll or something less descriptive?--NortyNort (Holla) 09:19, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Buster Stanley

... that Youngstown, Ohio native Sylvester "Buster" Stanley won the 1993 Michigan football MVP and Dick Katcher awards?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 04:54, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Passer predomesticus

... that the fossil Passer predomesticus was at first considered to be close to the wild ancestor of the House Sparrow, but instead both may have occurred with Palaeolithic humans?

ALT1:... that the fossil relative of the House Sparrow Passer predomesticus is known only from two upper jaw bones?
Comment: Just moved from user namespace. —innotata 21:37, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Created by Ucucha (talk), Innotata (talk). Nominated by Innotata (talk) at 21:37, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Trawden Forest F.C.

... that the English football club Trawden Forest never lost a home game in the FA Cup?

Comment: The reference provided is to an archive of FA Cup results, but unfortunately whoever reviews this will have to look through the years individually. The hook fact sounds a lot more impressive than it actually is, but it is still true.

Created by BigDom (talk). Self nom at 21:10, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and hook ref verified (it wasn't too bad :) —Bruce1ee^talk 14:55, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Morrie Yohai, Old London Foods

... that Morrie Yohai lived opulently in Kings Point, New York in "the house that Cheez Doodles bought", a product he created for Old London Foods?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 20:00, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and hook refs verified for both articles. —Bruce1ee^talk 14:47, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Partial Terms of Endearment

... that the Family Guy episode "Partial Terms of Endearment" was banned from airing on the Fox Broadcasting Company in the United States?

5x expanded by GageSkidmore (talk). Nominated by GageSkidmore (talk) at 19:03, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Light Horse Tavern

... that Light Horse Tavern was named after Henry Lee III, a Continental Army soldier during the American Revolution known as "Light Horse Harry"?

Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 18:48, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, hook ref all verified. Enjoying your restaurant series! Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 14:37, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Road to the North Pole

... that "Road to the North Pole" is the sixth episode in the "Road to" series of Family Guy, inspired by the Road to films starring Bing Crosby, Bob Hope, and Dorothy Lamour?

Created by . Pedro J. ^{the rookie}.Self nom at 18:34, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As of right now the article has under 1,200 characters of prose, short of the 1,500 required. Is tehre additional material about the episode available to expand the content of the article. Alansohn (talk) 20:03, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well the episode is brand new and unaired so no thats it for know but thats the only way to get it for DYK by being created.--Pedro J. ^{the rookie} 20:44, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article length is good now. I think there are too many "Road to"s in the hook though and honestly, this hook can apply to the other five episodes as well. Has a hook on one of the episodes been created before? --NortyNort (Holla) 09:16, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, none of the rpisodes have had DYK. --Pedro J. ^{the rookie} 22:38, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jewish Community of Danzig

... that the Jewish Community of Danzig sold the historic Synagogue to finance their emigration in 1939.

Created by HerkusMonte (talk). Self nom at 16:52, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length and hook verified. The picture provided here ~~has no license information, and it~~ does not occur in the article. --Pgallert (talk) 16:42, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I just used a different picture of the same location. We might also use this one or change the one used in the article. HerkusMonte (talk) 17:42, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your choice, either way is acceptable. --Pgallert (talk) 18:28, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I changed it. HerkusMonte (talk) 05:49, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

~~Confirmed. Good to go.~~ --Pgallert (talk) 08:49, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Retracted my DYKtick. Article has been the subject of a move war after my evaluation and is currently too unstable to go to the main page. --Pgallert (talk) 10:47, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose.Article misses many important facts, as well as concealing some information. For example ban on Jewish settlement seems to be implemented by Teutonic Knights[10], while now it looks like Poland implemented it. Also Jewish community exists in Gdańsk today as well. The article glances over murder of Jews in Holocaust.--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 17:34, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the article is not in accordance with the Gdansk/Danzig vote - a BIG no no. It should be under Jewish Community of Gdansk, with Gdansk/Danzig used throughout the article per the vote. I will try to expand the article shortly to try and address MyMoloboaccount's other concerns shortly. But the article's not ready yet.radek (talk) 20:35, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Add: The article's not ready yet. The section on Holocaust needs to be expanded. The section on the modern community needs to be reffed. An alt hook needs to be written which is in accordance with Gdansk/Danzig vote. Hopefully this can be done by tomorrow.radek (talk) 17:54, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: "... that the Jewish Community of Gdańsk sold the historic Synagogue to finance their emigration in 1939?"

ALT2: "... that the Jewish Community of Gdańsk celebrates Jewish culture in Poland with the Baltic Days festival?" - if I can get the "Baltic Days" article expanded sufficiently tomorrow, this could be a 2 in 1 nomination.radek (talk) 09:46, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What makes the fate of the pre-war community special is their emigration, that's why the hook should mention this really extraordinary event.(Alt1 BTW violates the Gdansk vote) The article turned into a small battleground about the usage of Danzig/Gdansk, I suggested to split the article into one about the historic and one about the modern community, comments appreciated. HerkusMonte (talk) 11:03, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support original. I guess the WP:DIGWUREN style disruption has ended for now. If it continues, I suggest you take it to arbitration enforcement. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 13:40, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article needs to be rewritten and renamed according to Gdańsk/Danzig naming rules. It also stands terribly biased as it is now.I see no reason to split the article. We don't have seperate articles about Wrocław and Breslau or Poznan and Posen for example, this seems like a POV push to enforce a article with the old name of Danzig.Also it is obvious that the article is in phase of continues development right now--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 08:42, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Every single sentence is based on online sources, e.g. published by the Jewish Museum (New York), Yad Vashem or former members of the community. How these sources push a "biased" view is a mystery to me. Astonishingly Molobo does not edit the article nor does he discuss at the talk page. It seems WP:IDONTLIKEIT is the main point. HerkusMonte (talk) 18:15, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Selective use of reliable sources can also result in biased article. Anyway are you asking me to edit the article? I am currently busy, but if you wish, I will try to find time to contribute to it, if that is your request.--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 22:11, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Liushusaurus

... that several fossils of the recently described Early Cretaceous lizard Liushusaurus preserve scales, pigmentation, claw sheaths, cartilage, and small bones that make up the hemipenis?

5x expanded by Smokeybjb (talk). Nominated by Smokeybjb (talk) at 15:32, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion, date and hook ref verified. —Bruce1ee^talk 14:25, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation

... that the Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation represents the courage, valour, strength, cleanliness, truth, high moral standards and high level of motivation expected of FBI agents?

Expanded and self-nominated by ChrisO (talk) 12:25, 3 August 2010 (UTC). Hook is exactly 200 characters.[reply]

Good to go! upstate NYer 03:39, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Only a ~3.35x expansion since March 19, 2010 (4262/1271 characters of readable prose). --Allen3 ^talk 03:53, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, I overlooked that criterion. I've expanded it further; the character count is now 6559, making it a 5.16x expansion since March 19, 2010. -- ChrisO (talk) 16:56, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

With the infobox and the quote it's 5x. Marcus Qwertyus 20:45, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

But both don't count for DYK, and without it it is 6055, coming from 1271. 300 chars short. --Pgallert (talk) 07:04, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My calculation above was based on the word count without the infobox, headers or references. Why doesn't the quote count? -- ChrisO (talk) 07:57, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Because it's not actually prose of the article. You need just a little more (300 characters). Ucucha 09:00, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length is now sufficient, good to go (Did not check the other criteria). --Pgallert (talk) 08:42, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

...and now it's not Marcus Qwertyus 16:03, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

From a political standpoint, having this as a DYK should be carefully discussed with the wise men of Wikipedia. The FBI and Wikipedia are already in a dispute about the seal. By putting it on the main page as a DYK, we risk making things worse for Wikipedia. On the other hand, if Wikipedia want to taunt the FBI and jab it in the eye, then there may be a purpose to have this. Let me say for the record that I do not oppose the FBI and do not wish to attack or jab the FBI in the eye.

Bottom line is that this DYK should be considered by either the wise men of Wikipedia or the people of the highest Wikipedia authority. For example, if Mike Godwin is the one to put it in the queue, he will be responsible for it. If administrator -- puts it in, administrator -- may be sued and Wikipedia will probably not pay for --'s legal fees. Since the FBI is not a user, the FBI cannot be blocked for making a legal threat. Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 17:39, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

With currently at least two major changes per day the article furthermore might not have the required stability for DYK. Considering the still extensive backlog (and that the article is growing again) maybe we let this rest for a few days until the arguments recede? --Pgallert (talk) 17:52, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would consider it a great kindness to me personally if this could be postponed for a few months or forever. It is clearly politically provocative, and it's just not appropriate for Wikipedia to behave that way. ChrisO, please support me in this - this is not helpful. I am not here speaking for the Foundation, but rather as a voice of traditional mores of Wikipedia. Our very existence is provocation enough - we aren't here to pick fights.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 20:56, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would also urge caution here. I think this could be read as taunting the FBI (which is not what we're about), and the potential harm far outweighs any potential good. IronDuke 21:04, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also object to this, appears to be a pointy response to the legal issues related to the recent communication with the organization, as such I strongly object to the did you know being used in this way. Off2riorob (talk) 21:09, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Likewise, support caution and restraint in the interest of the encyclopedia and the Foundation. Minor4th 21:41, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's a fine hook, but using the seal is needlessly antagonistic and point-y. I recommend including the "Did you know", but including a picture from a different hook. --MZMcBride (talk) 21:11, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, as it stands, the article fails the 5x WP:DYKCHECK (showing 1228 days instead of 10 max). Crum375 (talk) 21:21, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I concur there is a problem with the 5x expansion rule. This was the version before ChisO started editing on August 3 and it was 1271 characters (1660 bytes). By the time he finished editing that day it was 4358 characters (7659 bytes). His edits on August 5 added another 2285 bytes, with others bring the article to this 6055 character (10,354 byte) version. The current version is below 6000 characters. So, I see a maximum expansion of 6055/1271 = 4.76x. Even assuning that the expansion issue can be resolved, I agree with others that including the image of the seal on the main page seems needlessly provocative. The image-free hook seems reasonable to me, however. EdChem (talk) 23:13, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have no objection to the image-free hook, assuming the article it can be expanded to the 5x mark. -- ChrisO (talk) 08:38, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have now expanded the article to 7010 characters, making a total expansion of 7083/1271 - 5.57x, well over the 5x mark. This excludes the headers, image captions, infobox, quotation etc. The article now meets all of the DYK criteria. As stated above I have no objection to running it without the image. -- ChrisO (talk) 18:07, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I've not checked the word count but it does seem to be largely an expansion of existing content rather than an effectively new article created from a stub. Given the recent public interest in Wikipedia's image of the seal, and what looks like current negotiations rather than a settled legal argument, my view is that early promotion of this to the front page would be pointy and unwise. This could be reviewed in a couple of weeks time. . . dave souza, talk 18:28, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's incorrect; the previous version of the article was a stub, marked as a stub.[11] The new article is a total rewrite and expansion that now provides far more information than the FBI itself does on its own website.[12] I'd also like to remind you that external political considerations do not and should not play any part in making editorial decisions here or anywhere else on Wikipedia. -- ChrisO (talk) 18:40, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My error, sorry about that. It was indeed a stub, and I'd got mixed up with seeing it with some of the additions you'd made. The only point I'd note is that the expansion took place after the news had broken of the correspondence between Wikimedia and the FBI. . . dave souza, talk 21:38, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sometimes we have to put pragmatism before idealism. No-one is suggesting the FBI's letter should change what we have in any actual articles, but we don't have to be so "in-your-face" about it. I support the suggestion of including the hook but not the image. There isn't really much to gain by including the image on the main page and there is potentially a lot to lose. --Tango (talk) 20:43, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"External political considerations do not and should not play any part in making editorial decisions here or anywhere else on Wikipedia". So the motivation for your DYK nomination is not wanting to troll the FBI? This is as needlessly provocative as the Germans putting a picture of a vulva on their main page.[13] Fences&Windows 20:48, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The sole motive for my DYK nomination is that I took the time and effort to do a 5x expansion of an article. There is no other motive and I don't appreciate baseless assumptions of bad faith. This is not remotely comparable to putting a picture of a vulva on the main page. -- ChrisO (talk) 21:08, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think there can or should be any accusation of bad faith, the timing of the increase strongly suggests that the news story caught ChrisO's interest and he thought it was worthwhile improving the article from a stub. He did so, and it reached the stage of qualifying for DYK. There should be no guessing of anyone's motives. So, my conclusion remains that it's still reporting on a developing situation, and while the article can justifiably be featured in DYK, the timing of it being featured should not influence developments. To that extent, I'd be happier if it can be featured later rather than sooner, within the usual DYK constraints. From what I recall, there's a bit of flexibility when preparing articles for an anniversary or suchlike occasion, but the exact period isn't obvious from the pages I've looked at here so far. . . dave souza, talk 21:47, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So what do we do now? Special holding area: Until the heat is off?! With or without the picture of the seal? ( 5 x expansion is okay once again) --Pgallert (talk) 08:37, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- It should be treated like every other DYK. Nothing in the hook is offensive, and the disputed image doesn't appear. ChrisO has worked hard at getting this baby right to satisfy some uncommonly strict editors here who don't normally haunt this place; but he got there in the end with the help of some others. If any DYK should go live, it's this one.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 09:25, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - I could not disagree more. If any DYK should not go live, it's this one. There is somewhat of a COI here, between a potential dispute off-site, and the promotion of content related to that same dispute on the main page, giving unnecessary visibility to the issue and possibly escalating it to another level. As SV said on Jimbo's page, this is highly unprofessional and should be declined. Viriditas (talk) 10:15, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(It's the first time I comment in the DYK) Since there is now a 5x increase, there is no technical problem. I find the hook text to be informative and interesting. The nomination doesn't have any image, which means that there are zero problems with the seal issue. This DYK is cool to run as soon as it remains image-less. --Enric Naval (talk) 16:27, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Linking the article on the main page will indeed provide greater expose for the image indirectly, regardless of whether it appears on the main page itself. Nev1 (talk) 22:09, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

But the image in the article is in a correct and appropiate context, so what is the problem if it gets more exposure ..... (and, according to Wikipedia:Did you know, the whole point is to give publicity to the articles) --Enric Naval (talk) 23:57, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If there is a problem, it is that there is a Real World. In that world, putting a hook to Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation on our front page just now is the equivalent of us erecting the middle finger of our right hand and waggling it in the face of the director of the FBI. Like it or not, that's the semiotics of the gesture. Maybe that'd be a good signal to send at this time. Maybe that will help the project and the world at large in some way. Maybe it won't. I don't know. You don't know. One of the people in a better position to judge the value of this gesture to this community has asked that it be postponed for a few months or forever. Anthony (talk) 04:30, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Saying "or forever" is like a slap in the face to ChrisO and the effort he has put into this article. DYK should not be involved with the politics of the FBI. As has been stated, there is no longer any image involved with the hook. All that has to be done is put the hook in the middle of the seven other hooks that will go up with it. If the FBI truly view that as an insult, then they need to grow a thicker skin. They're the ones that started all of this drama anyways for ridiculous reasons. Silverseren^C 04:39, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The foundation is giving the finger to the FBI by retaining the image. The key point is that the foundation hasn't removed the image, and it's not backing down to threats. So the article is good to go, the image is good to go, and there is absolutely no reason this hook can't be a DYK. The image isn't even part of it. The real problem here is that some editors imagine that they are actually on the front lines of an epic legal battle; that they are the defenders of Wikipedia, standing shoulder to shoulder with Jimbo. If there are outside interests influencing us, it is that kind of mentality. If we truly edited without bias we wouldn't shun this article. We wouldn't jump down the back of a fellow editor for actually doing what an editor is supposed to do - writing useful articles that people are actually interested in. This kind of current topic is a perfect DYK. It's relevant. People more than ever are actually going to be interested in the seal.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 06:52, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What you've said above is not true, as we have stated many good reasons not to use this hook at this time. Arguments like "they're the ones who started it" and "the image isn't even part of it" shows that there's a serious disconnect between the kind of professional encyclopedia we want to be, and where we are now. It really doesn't matter if it's the FBI or the PTA, the situation is the same. An organization has expressed a concern with an image on a certain article, and an editor has decided to escalate the situation by writing a DYK and increasing traffic to the article on the main page. This flies in the face of good judgment and common sense, and there is no defense for it. Our job is to write articles, not to fight battles. Viriditas (talk) 09:30, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How about leaving the lawyer stuff to Godwin. Let him and his team deal with defending Wikipedia. It's like a role playing game in here. We've got Crusaders and Lawyers all over the place.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 08:24, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think we should take Jimbo at his word (10 August): "posting the contested logo to the front page would be clearly political, and Wikipedia should not be political. Full stop." He has been silent on whether posting a text-only DYK entry would be political. My own opinion is that following our normal DYK editorial policy is the least political thing we can do in this case. Delaying the DYK entry to some particular date is not our normal policy and risks reigniting controversy at a later date. The article was expanded properly, the article and hook are not defamatory (in fact, they are flattering). Run it as we would normally.Abby Kelleyite (talk) 18:08, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Policies and guidelines are meant to help guide good decisions. They are not intended to prevent us from making the right decisions. If the hook was created and scheduled before the dispute arose, that would be one thing, but it was not. It was created after the dispute was announced, in a way that would intentionally exacerbate and escalate an already delicate situation. Out of respect for both parties, the hook should not run until this dispute is resolved, as Wikipedia has the appearance of a COI in highlighting this topic on the main page as a DYK. Viriditas (talk) 20:49, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I object strongly to these constant insinuations of bad faith. The hook was not created to "intentionally exacerbate and escalate". It was created because I'd put in the effort to expand an article of current interest from a stub to a comprehensive treatment of the subject and because it met the requirements of DYK. The hook is entirely neutral (indeed, complimentary) and nobody has made any complaint of any kind about the article. Insinuating bad faith motives is untrue and unfair. -- ChrisO (talk) 20:57, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with ChrisO, that your comment is in extremely bad faith. He noticed a stub article that had significant room for improvement and worked on it. Now others are trying to not allow acknowledgment of his work because it could "possibly" be offensive to the FBI, when the hook is nothing but appreciative toward them. This is ridiculous. Silverseren^C 20:59, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would therefore encourage the both of you to read closer for comprehension. I wrote, "It was created after the dispute was announced, in a way that would intentionally exacerbate and escalate an already delicate situation." Please make a note of the words, "in a way", which is fully supported by my comments and the opinions of many others. Wikipedia is involved in this dispute, and out of respect to the involved parties, this DYK should be set aside until it is resolved. We want to appear professional, without any hint of a COI or disrespect to any party, and the lack of basic understanding in this regard is extremely troubling. The benefits of putting this DYK on hold greatly outweigh the risks. It is not our job to "stick it to the man". Our job is to remain neutral and as far removed from internal disputes as possible. Viriditas (talk) 21:05, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You did not address my point that running it at a later date would risk reigniting controversy. Far from wanting to "stick it to the man", adhering to our normal policy and running this now, as we would absent any controversy, is the most neutral thing we can do. If the material were critical of the FBI, I might be more persuaded by your arguments but as the material is in no way critical, I think we are best off running it right now as we would normally. In my opinion, this is the right decision. Abby Kelleyite (talk) 21:23, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I addressed your point, showing that the hook was created in response to a controversy involving Wikipedia, and as a professional organization, we need to show restraint at this time. We could run the hook, but that in no way means we should run it, and professionalism dictates that we place it on hold until the dispute is resolved. I don't see any "risk" of "reigniting controversy" in this decision, rather I see delaying it as part of common sense and good judgment. We should not let the emotional reactions of editors control our decisions. We must think them through, weighting the risks and benefits of both. I think it is beyond obvious that the risk of igniting controversy in the future by delaying this hook is less the risk of igniting controversy by running it on the main page after a dispute has already been recognized. Viriditas (talk) 21:39, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

We will have to disagree then on the obviousness of the risk, and I agree that emotions should not be ruling our ability to think this through clearly and I suggest you examine your own arguments in light of your own dictum. You have in no way demonstrated that the hook was created in response to the controversy beyond the mere fact that one preceded the other, which while required for causation is not sufficient. As a professional organization, we should look to our guidelines and consider policy arguments. Doing so, I believe the best approach for us to take right now is to follow our normal procedures. It is the principled and pragmatic thing to do. Any other ad hoc approach opens us up to criticism of acting politically in our editorial decision making. Abby Kelleyite (talk) 21:55, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Expanding on Abby's comment, by postponing the nomination, you would be showing that DYK is actually a direct party to internal disputes, as it would be observably affected by them in postponing the nomination. Like Abby stated, putting this nomination through and acting like it is the same as every other nomination and there's nothing special about it is the true way of showing that DYK is separate from internal and external disputes. Silverseren^C 21:26, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, by postponing the nomination, we would be showing that DYK cannot be used or manipulated by individual editors to perpetuate already ongoing disputes, and we would be demonstrating our neutrality rather than our COI. It would also show that our goal to remain neutral is one of our highest values, and that we are mature enough and professional enough to acknowledge our failures and attempt to fix them. Viriditas (talk) 21:37, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What "failures" are you talking about? What "manipulation"? This is fantasy. If you have nothing more constructive to offer I suggest you leave this discussion alone. -- ChrisO (talk) 22:04, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See, there you go again. You basically said "showing that DYK cannot be used or manipulated by ChrisO to perpetuate already ongoing disputes". Indirect personal attacks are the same as direct ones, in my opinion. Silverseren^C 22:15, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There are two important points I think are worth adding to this discussion. First, as I stated in another thread on this topic, outside pressure, or pressure from the FBI has no relevance on this discussion. It is registered members of the community who have expressed, to the point of consensus, a desire to move forward with measurable respect and professionalism. These comments from within are the only ones which should be given weight. And they should be given weight. Also the DYK rules state that the 5X expansion must have occurred within a five day period. Quiet simply this criteria has not been met as no 5x expansion can be demonstrated to have occurred within any 5 day period. There is absolutely no reason to waive the criteria simply for this suggestion. Certainly ChrisO has put forth effort and these efforts are apparent. That is what barnstars are for and there is no right of DYK inclusion. Stick with the DYK rules, apply the same standard you would apply to any other, and this hook still does not qualify. My76 Strat 22:27, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it's quite clear by discussion at the beginning of this nomination that it did meet the requirements within the time frame and it was the confusion on the part of other editors that stalled matters, not to mention that other users removed sections (like the section involving Wikipedia), which messed up the word count. Though that was fixed not long after as well. This nomination did, indeed, meet all DYK requirements and, thus, you are right, it should be judged the same as any other nomination. Silverseren^C 23:01, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am not familiar with running DYKCheck. Could someone who is kindly check the prose expansion represented by the following diff (edit changes from Aug. 3 to Aug. 7): [14]. Thank you. Abby Kelleyite (talk) 23:16, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I can tell from the early discussion for this nomination, it was overall accepted as good at this point in time. However, later on that same day, this edit happened, which invalidated it again. Currently, that information is back in the article once again, so I would presume that the current length at the point in time before that removal, it met the criteria. Silverseren^C 23:42, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As far as my prose-counting skills go, you are correct. The versions represented in this diff [15] represent a fivefold expansion from Aug. 3 to Aug. 6. Abby Kelleyite (talk) 00:00, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK rules state "DYK is only for articles that have been created, or expanded fivefold or more, within the last 5 days". This literally means at the time the suggestion was submitted. To elaborate the rules further state "Nominators should ensure that their submissions meet all these criteria or their submissions will fail DYK eligibility". Note it is the submission which must meet criteria and not the 25th incarnation of it. Additionally DYK rules states "Fivefold expansion is calculated from the previously existing article". Again this literally means the article which was published just previous to your edit. Once the previous version is published, it becomes copyrighted text, which is released under CC-BY-SA which means attribution. DYK rules further state "If some of the text was copied from another Wikipedia article, then it must be expanded fivefold as if the copied text had been a separate article". Here I contend that another version qualifies as another article in practice. And it harmonizes with the other guidelines regarding 5X expansion.

Also there are quotations contained in the prose which are not identified as quotations. Therefore they would be counted as words, although not eligible for purposes of the count. Here is an example from the current article; Mike Godwin, declined to comply, stating that the FBI was misconstruing the law, which he said was intended to prevent people from using fake FBI badges or profiting from the use of the seal. In this form this sentence counts as 34 words of prose. Correctly written it would necessarily be, Mike Godwin, declined to comply, stating that "the FBI was misconstruing the law", which he said was "intended to prevent people from using fake FBI badges or profiting from the use of the seal". In the attributable form the sentence has only 11 words eligible for the count.

Also affirmative action is incorporated into the rules to actively reduce systemic bias. Here is the rule quoted: "Try to avoid country-centrism and topic-centrism. Wikipedia is a general-interest encyclopedia with a global audience. No DYK installment should have more than two entries relating to one country, topic, or issue, and no more than one is even better". When ChrisO began editing this article, the United States was mentioned 1 time. Now after his efforts, the United States is mentioned 9 times. Here is an example of a sentence in current form; The FBI seal has become a familiar sight for users of digital entertainment media in the United States; which should probably read; The FBI seal has become a familiar sight for users of digital entertainment media, eliminating 4 more extraneous words. The other eight occurrences could perhaps be neutralized as well.

The rules also state "discussions about individual suggestions also take place on the DYK template talk page". That is exactly what has happened here, and this discussion overwhelmingly supports not promoting this suggestion to the main page. To further this discussion, the article contains inflammatory POV. The article sentence states; In July 2010, the FBI ordered the Wikimedia Foundation..., which should properly have stated requested opposed to ordered. Here is the actual letter which lists no demands. Instead the letter says, "The purpose of this letter... is to seek your compliance... Please remove the FBI Seal..." My76 Strat 04:22, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, now you are most definitely wikilawyering. But, either way, I will respond to each of your sections in turn.

First, as stated above your comment and shown in links by both myself and Abby, the article most definitely met the requirements for 5-fold expansion. I'm not sure what you mean about your copyright comments or how that applies to the article at all.

Secondly, are those quoted statements taken directly from the reference that is attributed to them? If they are not direct quotations, then there is no need to put quotes around them and "stating" can easily become "stated".

Thirdly, this one definitely threw me for a loop. The article is about a United States government agency, of course it is going the mention the US fairly frequently and likely won't mention any other countries at all, unless the seal has some sort of important relation to them. There is no "US centric bias" in the article. Tht's the same as saying that the article on the US Congress has too much information that is about only the US government. It's ridiculous. Moving on...

Fourthly,it is quite clear from the extensive amount of discussion on this nomination that there is not a clear consensus. And, lastly, if you feel it should say "requested" rather than "ordered", feel free to change it. In fact, I think you probably should, personally.

Anything else? Silverseren^C 05:24, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah one other thing, since you were so eloquent as to characterize my comments as ridiculous, I would like to respond in kind and inform you that I think your comments reflect ignorance. The diffs you provided show nothing except that in some editors opinion the criteria for length was met. You suggest disregarding the fact that some of the text belongs in quotations and therefore doesn't qualify. You suggest that the references to the United States are proper in spite of the example given. You disregard that it is the submission which must meet the criteria, and the nominator whose responsibility it is to ensure this is so. You overlook the existence of POV, suggesting I correct it, while implying it is otherwise fine with you had it appeared as is. And you acknowledge a debate is ongoing which further belies DYK stability guidelines. Oh but that's right, your entire diatribe can be summed up in three words, #$%^ the rules, which I happen to disagree. My76 Strat 06:22, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You are quite wrong about quotations not being counted. As Wikipedia:Did you know/Additional rules says, block quotes - of which there is only one in the article - are not counted, and have not been counted in this case. Inline quotes are counted. The article is also stable and has not been the subject of any disputes or edit wars at any point. And Silver is right to call your comments about "POV" ridiculous. You have fundamentally misunderstood what is meant by "No DYK installment should have more than two entries relating to one country, topic, or issue, and no more than one is even better". A DYK installment is one of these things - a series of links to DYK articles. The rule you cite refers to having a good international selection of DYKs, not biasing them towards any one country. For instance, it means that we would have to avoid having more than two DYKs about the United States in a single installment. It has nothing to do with supposed topic bias within an individual DYK item. Might I suggest that you take the time to learn about how DYK works before lecturing the regulars? -- ChrisO (talk) 07:29, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've read through this thread and through the article and I see no consensus for promotion and no sufficient neutralilty which is required from a DYK nomination (nomination = article text + hook + the fact of its appearance on the main page). As long as I remember DYK, it always tried to keep balance and work by consensus, with an attitude among regulars to withdraw a nom if it is not helping the project and take it easy. Peace. Materialscientist (talk) 08:31, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The argument so far: "Don't do it, as it will be read as pointy and insulting by the party that complained about the article, and might negatively impact negotiations you know nothing about." ChrisO: "I want to. I can. So I will." Have I got that right? Anthony (talk) 09:25, 12 August 2010 (UTC) Updated: Changed to confirm. A long delay is the sensible way to go. 07:38, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This most certainly meets all DYK criteria (expansion, sourcing, hook length, etc.). The most "neutral" action to take is to follow the normal DYK process and stick it in an update. The lengthy arguments above by editors who are obviously unfamiliar with DYK rules and operation are not persuasive in the least. cmadler (talk) 11:57, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, Anthony, that's not right. The argument against running this DYK nomination advocates putting aside our normal policies and processes for an explicitly political reason. The article is not and has never been the subject of controversy. The dispute is over an image, which is not part of the DYK hook, and which appears in numerous articles - not just this one. There's nothing exceptional about DYK highlighting a recently expanded article on a topic of current public interest. There is something very exceptional about people saying that such an article should effectively be banned forever from the home page. I can't think of any other example of that happening in the history of Wikipedia. -- ChrisO (talk) 12:40, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Some body parts and associated techniques are subjects of great interest, but are not featured on the main page .. There are some very popular court cases which are also not featured. Some valid noms were withdrawn/removed only because of bad timing - when a country is in mourning, one doesn't mock that. Nothing to do with politics. Materialscientist (talk) 12:54, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The argument against running this DYK nomination advocates you putting something ahead of your own gratification, actually. Anthony (talk) 13:55, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

-There are multiple objections to this DYK and it should clearly be removed. Off2riorob (talk) 16:55, 12 August 2010 (UTC) (Restoring after Dragfyre's removal and removal by Off2riorob, with clear violations of WP:TPO by both of them) This article meets all of the requirements for DYK and should be promoted because of NPOV. We should not place restrictions or aspersions on any article listed to DYK, unless it breaks one or more of the rules we have. This article does not, the length checks out, the hook is fine, and it should be promoted. See here for my longer explanation of the matter. Silverseren^C 16:39, 12 August 2010 (UTC) [reply]

Compromise proposal

I have put forward a compromise proposal at User talk:Jimbo Wales#Compromise proposal. Please feel free to comment there. -- ChrisO (talk) 17:22, 12 August 2010 (UTC) [reply]

@ChrisO Thanks for offering your thoughts on what I should do. I think you should learn the definition of lecture before you characterize my response as an "oral presentation". So now we have perhaps helped each other. And I do have more questions, even comments.

@DYK regulars It has been suggested I have misunderstood some guidelines. This is quite possible as I have not participated in any of the discussions which may have reached consensus regarding the particular guidelines I have previously quoted. If it is at all possible, assume that my intentions were good. I remain confused, and accept it is more likely a result of the manner in asking. Therefore I will attempt to be as clear as I am able to the following: Here is the complete rule for context; "A4: Fivefold expansion is calculated from the previously existing article, no matter how bad it was (copyvios are an exception), no matter whether you kept any of it and no matter if it was up for deletion. This may be a bad surprise, but we don't have enough time and volunteers to reach consensus on the quality of each previous article.

What exactly is meant by "previously existing article"?
Specific to this suggestion, Exactly which "previously existing article" is the one accepted as such for purposes of the 5X expansion?
Specific to this suggestion, Exactly which version of the article was the version said to have been 5X expanded?

If somehow the process allows multiple edits from multiple users. How is it that ChrisO gets credit for their inclusions? After all the recognition is for having expanded the article, not for having predicted that it would be. My76 Strat 23:37, 12 August 2010 (UTC) [reply]

2002 Continental Tire Bowl

... that although Matt Schaub ran and passed for two touchdowns, and Marques Hagans threw and returned a punt for two touchdowns, Wali Lundy was named the MVP of the 2002 Continental Tire Bowl?

Comment: Moved from userspace on August 3.

Created by Grondemar (talk). Self nom at 05:28, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have absolutely no idea what the hook means. Is there a less, well, technical hook that could be used? sonia♫ 23:10, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I'll consider an ALT and get back to you. Note that all American football jargon is linked for reference. –Grondemar 23:17, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1

... that despite stellar performances by Matt Schaub and Marques Hagans, Wali Lundy was named the Most Valuable Player of the American football 2002 Continental Tire Bowl?

I've seen this problem before, Grondemar. The problem is that non-US reader will not want to read four different pages just to understand what the hook is saying. It's best to keep them as simple as possible. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 05:35, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm good with the proposed ALT1. It's hard to explain American football jargon in 200 characters! –Grondemar 16:54, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tengo Todo Excepto a Tí

... that Mexican singer Edith Márquez received a gold certification in Mexico for an album that includes a cover of the number-one song "Tengo Todo Excepto a Tí"?

Created by Jaespinoza (talk). Self nom at 05:25, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified, offline and Spanish refs accepted in good faith. I trimmed the hook a little. —Bruce1ee^talk 14:12, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bucky O'Connor

... that Iowa Hawkeyes men's basketball coach Bucky O'Connor led the team to its only NCAA championship game in school history in 1956?

Created by Dabomb87 (talk). Self nom at 03:18, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Checks out, verified. --NortyNort (Holla) 08:30, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 2

Nickel mining in New Caledonia

... that New Caledonia is the world's fifth largest producer of nickel (pictured)?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Materialscientist (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 13:38, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 ... that the production of nickel ore in New Caledonia had increased nearly 100 times between 1950 and 1970?

There might be a minor confusion about is/was in the main hook and the article. The last official data (USGS) are published in 2010, but are for the year 2009; given the trends of the past years, there is no doubt that it still is 5th in 2010. ALT1 is in the end of "history" and is sourced to Fig. 5 of ref. 3. Materialscientist (talk) 22:25, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't the pipe a bit of an WP:EGG? I'd expect it to go to an article on nickel ore production/mining, not one specifically on doing so in New Caledonia. I realise that "in New Caledonia" follows straight afterwards, but as a Wikilink it was that that actually made me assume first link would not be specific to New Caledonia. Si Trew (talk) 21:39, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion? Bolding 5 words in a row might be too many, and it might be useful to include a link to New Caledonia, which is not that well known. Materialscientist (talk) 01:50, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

MN 4 (biostratigraphic zone)

... that during MN 4, the saber-toothed cat Prosansanosmilus first appears in Europe?

Created by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 08:13, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bisan City tourist village (Gaza)

... that the Hamas government has built the new Bisan City tourist village (Gaza) atop a former landfill?

Created by AMuseo, talk. Self nom Bisan City tourist village (Gaza)| 2 August 2010 (UTC)

ALT 1 ... that the government of Gaza has built a new Bisan City pleasure garden atop a former landfill?

Navis lusoria

... that the navis lusoria was a troop ship of the late Roman Empire that could reach speeds of about 10 knots per hour?

Created by Ekem (talk). Nominated by Ekem (talk) at 12:42, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length OK. Foreign-language hook ref AGF. But the hook is not accurate: the replica was able to reach speeds of 10 knots per hour. And the picture doesn't show this replica, but a different one. Could you rewrite the hook, please? Yoninah (talk) 22:34, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that it has been estimated that the navis lusoria, a type of a troop ship of the late Roman Empire, could reach speeds of about 10 knots per hour?

Comment: Text has been modified to accurately reflect the statement of the reference; - the replica that is not pictured only confirmed the estimation. Ekem (talk) 02:45, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Knots per hour" is wrong; knots is speed not distance. Either "Nautical miles per hour" or "knots". Si Trew (talk) 08:11, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed the article to use {{convert}}. The reference gives the speed only in km/h, not in knots, but I assume that's OK if both are given in the article. Si Trew (talk) 08:20, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Here's another suggestion:

ALT2: ... that while the navis lusoria troop ship was mentioned by a fourth-century Roman historian, actual proof of its existence only surfaced in Mainz, Germany in 1981? Yoninah (talk) 09:54, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT3: ... that it has been estimated that the navis lusoria, a type of a troop ship of the late Roman Empire, could reach speeds of about 10 knots?

Either ALT2 or 3 are fine with me.Ekem (talk) 12:51, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Northern Rocky Mountains Wolf

... that the Northern Rocky Mountains Wolf was the subject of the Northern Rocky Mountain Wolf Recovery Plan, which pertained to reintroducing wolves into Yellowstone National Park?

Created by Silver seren (talk). Self nom at 00:31, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A Northern Rocky Mountains Wolf standing between two trees
(Alt 1) ... that the Northern Rocky Mountains Wolf, a subspecies that used to primarily live in Yellowstone National Park, was re-listed as Endangered on the Endangered Species List on August 6th, 2010?

I would like to change it to this alt due to the change that occurred today (the awesome change!) Silverseren^C 00:50, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's a subspecies, not a species (and I think many authorities don't even consider it that distinct). —innotata 16:17, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. It's distinct enough to warrant subspecies status at least. Silverseren^C 21:46, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 Verified. I'd say add the picture of the wolf but I don't know how it would look at 100 x 100; possibly camouflaged. Worth a try though. --NortyNort (Holla) 14:44, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it seems to be fairly visible. What do you think? Silverseren^C 17:05, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tower Optical

... that Tower Optical coin-operated binoculars (pictured) can hold up to 2,000 United States quarters?

Created by JohnWBarber (talk). Self nom by JohnWBarber (talk) at 01:07, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It may be more interesting (I'm not sure) that the company that makes this device, which is a fixture (literally) at major tourist sites across the U.S., has only six employees, or that the devices have deliberately had essentially the same look since 1932, when the company was founded. -- JohnWBarber (talk) 01:22, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikilinked "US quarter", or did you deliberately want to leave people guessing? --Pgallert (talk) 17:15, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See ALT1. I think the employee/machine ratio is interesting but it sounds vague without a solid number of machines. Also, the maintaining doesn't necessarily mean they are taking he coins out, so maybe it isn't a lot of work?

ALT1 ... that Tower Optical coin-operated binoculars (pictured) can hold up to 2,000 United States quarters and have kept their same distinctive look since first manufactured in 1932?

Very good points. I like the revised version. -- JohnWBarber (talk) 16:51, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Speed Sisters

... that The Speed Sisters are the first all-female team on the Palestinian car racing circuit?

Created by AMuseo, talk. Self nom The Speed Sisters| 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Robert Roddam, HMS Greenwich (1747)

... that after his court martial for the loss of HMS Greenwich, Captain Robert Roddam (pictured) had the minutes printed, but was told '...the public take no interest in an honourable acquittal'?

Comment: Roddam is new, while Greenwich is 5x expanded. It's part of rather a good quote from the printer - 'if you had been condemned to be shot, your trial would have sold as well; but the public take no interest in an honourable acquittal', referring to the high sales from the minutes of the trial of Admiral Sir John Byng earlier that year, but it would probably make the hook too long to include this in enough detail. Benea (talk) 21:17, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 21:17, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps it's better to unquote the quote then:

ALT1: ... that after his acquittal at a court martial for the loss of HMS Greenwich, Captain Robert Roddam (pictured) had the minutes printed, but was told they would have sold better had he been ~~found guilty~~executed?

(Microsoft Word counts that as ~~165~~162 characters without spaces, ~~199~~195 with them). Si Trew (talk) 08:04, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not too keen on the executed/guilty part, it maybe a reasonable implication, but it is perhaps stretching it too far. A more accurate alternative would be:

ALT2: ... that after his acquittal at a court martial for the loss of HMS Greenwich, Captain Robert Roddam (pictured) had the minutes printed, but was told they would have sold better had he been 'condemned to be shot'?

The normal hook limit is relaxed slightly on multiple noms like this one.Benea (talk) 08:18, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Al-Bustan resort

... that the Al-Bustan resort is part of a "construction boom" of recreational facilities in Gaza?

Created by AMuseo, talk. Self nom Al-Bustan resort (Gaza)| 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Alt 1 ... that Al-Bustan is a new beach resort in Gaza where women who wear the veil can relax while they listen to Islamic music?

The original works, one veiled woman describing the resort as relaxing doesn't make it the norm. --NortyNort (Holla) 11:52, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Zhang Yi

... that Zhang Yi promised the King of Chu to give back 600 li of land, and gave only 6 li at the end??

5x expanded by Kayau (talk). Nominated by Kayau (talk) at 15:10, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that Zhang Yi promised to give back 600 li of land to the King of Chu, but ended up returning only 6?

King of Chu is a DAB page, though.

The King in question does not have an article on enwiki yet (though he does have one on zhwiki). Kayau Voting IS evil 04:04, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article li (unit) defines it as a distance not an area, and has few references, none of them inline. Si Trew (talk) 17:11, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that's the way all the refs put it. I don't think I want to question that. :) Perhaps there could be square lis? Kayau Voting IS evil 04:04, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, or I imagine like with furlong it can be used for area because a width is assumed. As long as you're sure it is the right unit of measure, I think this is OK. Si Trew (talk) 07:56, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The fact's not in the article, which says that he claimed to have promised only six, but does not say he returned only six (or any other amount). Si Trew (talk) 17:15, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Kayau Voting IS evil 04:04, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I'll have to AGF on the reference as I don't read Chinese. Si Trew (talk) 07:56, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Enchey Monastery

... that according to legend, Guru Padmasambhava subdued the spirits of the Khangchendzonga, Yabdean and Mahakaal at Enchey Monastery (pictured) in Sikkim?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 13:26, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Added an img of the monastery.-- N.V.V. Char ^Talk. 13:38, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My DYK tool says that it's not a X5 expansion. I'm a bit confused because I know that you guys would not submit an article that has not passed all of the criteria....--White Shadows ^{It's a wonderful life} 22:57, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The expansion is 2671/885=3. The confusion might be because the old version was unsourced, but this is a questionable argument, and, given the backlog, it is better to expand to 5x. Materialscientist (talk) 00:39, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have expanded the article on the overall count from 7368 to 11,011 bytes after a thorough search.-- N.V.V. Char ^Talk. 05:10, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, I have a 4.1 expansion now with 3629 characters readable prose on the recent version and 885 on the version prior to expansion.--NortyNort (Holla) 11:17, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hopefully it is done now with some earth shaking information. -- N.V.V. Char ^Talk. 18:09, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Frank K. Richardson

... that future California Supreme Court Justice Frank K. Richardson sneaked into the British Parliament in 1944 and sat next to the Archbishop of Canterbury to hear a speech by Winston Churchill?

Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 09:44, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've not succeeded in tracking down what the "Distinguished Visitors Gallery" is, which he is supposed to have sneaked into. In any case, he can't sneak into the Parliament of the United Kingdom, since that is not a building but a legislative body; he might have snuck into the British House of Commons chamber or British House of Lords chamber within the Palace of Westminster. Churchill would normally speak in the Commons, but I am not sure if the Archbishop of Canterbury, as a Lord Spiritual, would be allowed in the Commons, even in the Strangers Gallery. All in all, this reference seems a bit unclear. Si Trew (talk) 21:18, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Palace of Westminster#Incidents refers to "the gallery in front of the Strangers' Gallery, which is reserved for ambassadors, members of the House of Lords, guests of MPs and other dignitaries", and provides an (offline) citation, but does not name it as the Distinguished Visitors Gallery. Si Trew (talk) 21:25, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Voorleser

... that a Voorleser was responsible for baptisms, funeral services, communions, undertaking, education, marriages, legislation, grave-digging, and leading their congregation in singing?

Created by Theornamentalist (talk). Nominated by Theornamentalist (talk) at 03:34, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 - ... that a Voorleser would dip babies in water, teach children, unite adults, and then dress up the dead, celebrate the dead, and dig for the dead? - Theornamentalist (talk) 17:26, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2 (for Hallowe'en): hold babies' heads under water, stuff children's brains, tie their parents together, dress up the dead, tell tales about them and prepare a place for them in the underworld.

I don't know if Hallowe'en has similar misleading links like April Fool's Day does, so ignore me if inappropriate please. Si Trew (talk) 18:52, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I support Simon's ALT2 - Theornamentalist (talk) 00:17, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So you want this one held for Halloween? --NortyNort (Holla) 11:08, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yea, I was actually unaware we had a holding area for Halloween. - Theornamentalist (talk) 12:03, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2 - ... that a Voorleser would hold babies' heads under water, stuff children's brains, tie their parents together, dress up the dead, tell tales about them and prepare a place for them in the underworld?
Should I move this somewhere, no need for it clog up this page any more than it is. - Theornamentalist (talk) 18:15, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Special occasion holding area

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

For 20 August, the day the airmen arrived at Buchenwald

KLB Club

KLB Club pin designed by the airmen while detained in Buchenwald

... that 66 years ago today, 168 captured allied airmen — accused by the Gestapo of being "Terrorflieger" (terror fliers) — arrived at Buchenwald concentration camp and subsequently formed the KLB Club?

Created by Spy007au (talk). Self nom at 04:00, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. Very interesting article. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 10:17, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For 16 August, celebration of subject's 80th birthday

Walter Fink

... that today the 80th birthday of Walter Fink is celebrated at the Rheingau Musik Festival with compositions of Kirchner, Lachenmann, Rihm, Widmann and Hosokawa?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 13:45, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, age, and hook citation all check out. Only issue is that regardless of which queue it's put in, the hook isn't going to be true for at least some portion of the world. Given that we're trying to cater to all readers regardless of geographic location, the hook needs adjusting to either include mention of the date, or to miss the "today" (which would be a shame.) GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 20:07, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

yes and no, because the day of the celebration is not necessarily the birthday (I'm still in the process to find out), so it may feel "today" even a day sooner or later, but

ALT1: ... that the 80th birthday of Walter Fink is celebrated on 16 August 2010 at the Rheingau Musik Festival with compositions of Kirchner, Lachenmann, Rihm, Widmann and Hosokawa?

No problems with the alt. GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 20:23, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I changed the date to match that in the article. --PFHLai (talk) 10:13, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For 16 August, celebration of Russian crew's escape

1995 Airstan incident, Kandagar (2010 film)

... that 14–years ago, on August 16, Russian hostages being held by Afghan Taliban overpowered their guards fired up a Ilyushin Il-76 (pictured) and escaped to the United Arab Emirates?

Created by Esemono (talk). Self nom at 13:45, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1... that the 1995 Airstan incident, which ended on August 16, 14–years ago, when the Russian hostages escaped from Taliban captivity via a Ilyushin Il-76 (pictured), was made into the 2010 Russian movie, Kandahar?
ALT2... that the 2010 Russian movie Kandahar is based on the 1995 Airstan incident, which ended on August 16, 14–years ago, when the Russian hostages escaped from Taliban captivity via a Ilyushin Il-76 (pictured)?

Double nomination for ALT1 & 2 -- Esemono (talk) 03:33, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hooks are pinch too long, try this one: --NortyNort (Holla) 09:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT3... that the the 1995 Airstan incident, which ended 14 years ago today with Russian hostages escaping Taliban captivity via a Ilyushin Il-76 (pictured), was made into the 2010 Russian movie, Kandahar?

For 14 August, opening ceremony of the inaugural 2010 Summer Youth Olympics; or 26 August, closing ceremony of the Games

Lyo and Merly

Two people wearing costumes inspired by a lion and the Merlion respectively.

Lyo and Merly, mascots of the 2010 Summer Youth Olympics in Singapore

... that Lyo and Merly (pictured), the official mascots of the 2010 Summer Youth Olympics in Singapore, respectively allude to fire and water, and the Lion City and the Merlion?

Created by AngChenrui (talk). Self nom at 05:14, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I'm concerned about the image. Although it was properly licensed by the author to Wikipedia, I think the appearance of Lyo and Merly may be copyrighted. I have raised a query about this at "commons:Commons talk:Licensing#2010 Summer Youth Olympics mascots". The image can probably be used under a fair-use justification at Wikipedia, but fair-use images are not permitted for DYK. — Cheers, JackLee ^–talk– 18:23, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. I am still very much uncertain about image usage on Wikipedia, maybe I should read up more on it sometime soon. Thanks for the alert. ANGCHENRUI ^Talk ♨ 12:35, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have good news. The result of my query at "commons:Commons talk:Licensing#2010 Summer Youth Olympics mascots" was that costumes of copyrighted characters are regarded as clothing, and so photographs of them do not breach the copyright in the characters: see "commons:Commons:Derivative works#Isn't every product copyrighted by someone? What about cars? Or kitchen chairs? My computer case?". I will transfer the image over to the Commons. — Cheers, JackLee ^–talk– 14:51, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tweaked the hook. — Cheers, JackLee ^–talk– 09:04, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(ALT): ... that the costumes of Lyo and Merly, the official mascots of the 2010 Summer Youth Olympics in Singapore, have inbuilt fans and optional vests lined with cool packs to keep wearers from overheating? ANGCHENRUI ^Talk ♨ 12:46, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The original is hard to verify because it lacks citations within the article. There is also a tagged, unreferenced section within the article. The ALT checks out but sentences and sections in the article should be referenced before it is verified.--NortyNort (Holla) 11:10, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mm, I would suggest the ALT. The unreferenced section stems from this rather stubborn, I would say, editor who repeatedly pasted the text onto the article again and again. I'm still awaiting a reply from him, if any, and I pasted the tag at that point in time. I've removed it together with the text since. Thanks. Best, ANGCHENRUI ^Talk ♨ 13:56, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like an IP keeps adding that info and you are correct for removing it if unreferenced. I didn't think it was you that put that text in there anyway. If it continues, you may be able to get page protection at WP:RFPP for a short period for the DYK unless the IP stops. The background section is still unreferenced though. --NortyNort (Holla) 23:37, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Everything should be fine now. I will consider protection if the same thing happens again (3 right now for the record). Thanks, ANGCHENRUI ^Talk ♨ 10:01, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, but the citations are bare URLs. Aaaah! I don't mean to be a pain but DYK articles should have proper sources and citations, after all they will be represented on the main page. Everything else is ok. --NortyNort (Holla) 10:16, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. I do know that, though I was pretty tired then. You're a good reviewer though, so keep it up. Anyway, I thought bare urls are fine so long they work? Maybe it's got something to do with the if you have experience on wiki, your quality of contributions should be higher. Haha. Thanks anyway, ANGCHENRUI ^Talk ♨ 12:19, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The ALT is good, thanks. Nice article. DYK rules state that the hook must have inline citations which include proper footnotes. Featured articles also required citations but it isn't editing experience, just good for verifiability and curious readers. A lot of articles have bare URLs but it isn't a good editing practice and later someone will have to clean them up. What is worse though is no references. A lot of articles have good info (probably from an offline book) and no references, so it may get scrapped.--NortyNort (Holla) 12:35, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Venues of the 2010 Summer Youth Olympics

... that one of the venues of the 2010 Summer Youth Olympics is The Float@Marina Bay, which will host the opening and closing ceremonies of the Games as the world's largest floating stage?

Created by AngChenrui (talk). Self nom at 12:46, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm wondering if I should host this under the special occasions holding area, for 14 August (day one of the Games). Any comments? ANGCHENRUI ^Talk ♨ 05:06, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The piped link from "opening and closing ceremonies" to 2010 Summer Youth Olympics seems a bit of a WP:EASTEREGG/WP:EGG to me. Si Trew (talk) 18:43, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed the easter egg and nominated the hook for either 14 or 26 August (the date of the opening and closing ceremonies of the Games). — Cheers, JackLee ^–talk– 08:56, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I see he hook cited in the The Float@Marina Bay article but not in he article being nominated where it belongs as well. --NortyNort (Holla) 09:56, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Solved. Thanks, ANGCHENRUI ^Talk ♨ 10:12, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Everything is good for DYK except the bare URL. --NortyNort (Holla) 11:04, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's fixed too. ANGCHENRUI ^Talk ♨ 12:20, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(ALT): ... that The Float@Marina Bay, a venue of the 2010 Summer Youth Olympics, hosts the opening and closing ceremonies of the Games as the world's largest floating stage?

I came up with this, and I think its better than the original hook. ANGCHENRUI ^Talk ♨ 12:25, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verified, I agree. Cool article. --NortyNort (Holla) 12:38, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]