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August 2010

Your recent edit to the page Tiger appears to have added incorrect information and has been reverted or removed. All information in this encyclopedia must be verifiable in a reliable, published source. If you believe the information that you added was correct, please cite the references or sources or before making the changes, discuss them on the article's talk page. Please use the sandbox for any tests that you wish to make. Do take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thank you. As an added note, a "dominant" male tiger would have no interaction with any cubs. That is if you could consider any male tiger dominant at all. Tigers do not hold a social structure like Lions. ZooPro 06:38, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry ZooPro, but in this occation, you are COMPLETELY wrong.

That picture is of the famous male B2, the dominant tiger in the turist area of the Bandhavgarh NP. You can see ANY picture in the web and compare the stripe patern with this male. Besides, it is a complete lie that the male tigers don’t interact with they cubs, as matter of fact, there are reports of male tigers feeding they youngs when they mothers died, acording twith Valmik Thapar, no less.

So, I will change the title of the picture again, and it will be good to erase this myth oof the no-interaction of male-cubs.

Greetings. --AmbaDarla (talk) 19:47, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me, I am not wrong in any way shape or form. You are full of rubbish is the actual answer. Unless you can provide me with a direct source of your "beliefs" then I will continue to revert and warn you for your actions. It is not a complete lie that males don't interact with the cubs its FACT. I will not be searching the web to find confirmation that this is the alleged B2, thats your job. I will revert your action again. ZooPro 00:33, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How can you say that my post is full of rubbish??? Your words show your ignorance in tiger behavior. Probably, you had only read the child-books about tigers, but surprise, there are scientific references that challenge the OLD clichés. Maybe you still believe that the largest population of tigers is in the Sundarbans, or that white tigers had conservation value or event that tigers don’t share they food with other individuals.

Your negative to search the pictures of B2 in the internet (by the way) is evidence that you had not will to change your beliefs. But, don’t worry, I will put the reference about the parental care of the male tigers AND will put some images of B2 for make a proper comparison with the stripe pattern.

Remember, you insult me first, but like an educated person, I will not do the same. --AmbaDarla (talk) 18:31, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, here is the evidence, check this out:

  • About the male tiger and its cubs:

Dr. Karanth (2003) [quoting Schaller and Thapar]: http://a.imageshack.us/img835/3259/karanth2003.png

Dr Thapar’s book: http://a.imageshack.us/img819/8660/thaparmaletigerscarethe.jpg http://a.imageshack.us/img822/4503/thapparsaystigersaregoo.png http://a.imageshack.us/img715/6694/maletigerfeedtheyyoungs.png

Sadly, that book is not completely available in the web, so I found these images about it: http://www.c-o-n-s-e-r-v-a-t-i-o-n-s.com/Shops/1-1000-0195648102-The_Secret_Life_of_Tigers http://www.booksetsextra.com/Category/Books--3aOutdoors+--26+Nature/C282-1068/Review.aspx http://books.google.com.gt/books?id=gQrgXWxLv2MC&pg=PA82&dq=%22that+male+tiger+fathers+actually+care%22&hl=es&ei=E7FhTJLFCYGclgejkr2QCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

As you can see, the male Bengal tigers had a high degree of parenthood with they cubs and here is the evidence.

  • About B2 male, check these pages:

http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/95659605/Flickr http://geography.wincoll.ac.uk/jjcskw/pages/303.05overseasindia08.htm http://www.becci.com/Journal.htm

And finally, this image: http://a.imageshack.us/img836/5368/b2marking.jpg

So, as you can see, this tiger is NOT a female, and worst, it’s not just a “simple” male, it is B2 the famous dominant male tiger of Bandhavgarh NP. Every tiger fan knows him!!! By the way, I also have information and pictures of Bohka (A.K.A. Rajbhera), Banda, Madla, Sauraha, Star male, Challenger, Charger, and many other famous tigers. I also have every modern paper about tiger size, and I am always searching for new information about them.

By the way, check this webpage, and know some of these famous males: http://animalvsanimal.yuku.com/reply/4981/t/Re-B2-and-Other-Great-Tiger-Pics-from-India-.html

In conclusion, the male Bengal tigers have an important role in the life of they young and that picture in the Tiger article is of B2, a famous dominant male. By the way, check this image of the same picture: http://a.imageshack.us/img836/4623/maletigerandcubsmslesle.jpg There are two cubs!!!

And here are more images of males with they cubs. http://a.imageshack.us/img261/8281/b2withhiscub.jpg http://a.imageshack.us/img267/8734/b2andsonchallenger.jpg http://a.imageshack.us/img261/848/bokhaandcubs.jpg http://a.imageshack.us/img267/526/malewithcubs.jpg

So, you are served. --AmbaDarla (talk) 23:14, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Once again you have not provided me a source for the image you claim is B2, i dont care about anything you have written above and it was a waste of my valuable time reading it. Unless you can find me a source for that image it will remain as it it. ZooPro 23:42, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is the only warning you will receive regarding your disruptive edits.
The next time you remove or blank page contents or templates from Wikipedia, as you did to Talk:Tiger, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. You removed my comment from the talk page, next time you do this you will be blocked. ZooPro 23:44, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How can you say that??? Man, you are a completely stubborn. I put the source of ALL the images in the comparison, so, how can you say than that image of B2 don’t have a source???

You know something, you are not a professional, not even a good moderator and I am going to take this abuse to the high authorities. Wikipedia is a place of knowledge, not your personal playground, were you can put your dogmas.

Finally, I don’t even know why you are so angry with me? The wise man accepts his mistake and is grateful to the change, but obviously you are not. Maybe you are just a kid and that’s why you are so disturb. I don’t know. But at the end, I am right, I have showed my point and sooner or late, you will most accept it.

Sorry for you and your immature attitude. --AmbaDarla (talk) 15:58, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, I have not removed anything. Check the users; I never remove comments of other people. Like a mature person, I like to know the opinions of other persons. I will check that right now. I suggest to you the same. Believe me, I have not removed anything. --AmbaDarla (talk) 16:01, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just one last thing, every time that I put a commentary in the article, that count like a edit? If that is the case, could you tell how can I annwer with out edit comments? Thanks. And yes, I am not an expert in Wikipedia. --AmbaDarla (talk) 16:30, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just a note that ZooPro is not a moderator or has any other official status on Wikipedia, they are just another editor like you or me. --Michael Johnson (talk) 02:24, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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