Talk:Regulate (song)

Got rid of IT humour

I doubt it will stick, but I got rid of the "dude humor", mostly just to see how long it will last. I won't revert it back if someone re-edits it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dondoolee (talk • contribs) 23:22, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Label?

I'm somewhat confused in this article it says that Regulate... G Funk Era was on Death Row but on the Wikipedia entry for Warren G it says that "Death Row Records did not sign Warren G" even though "Warren G was a regular contributor to many Death Row albums." Someone please explain this for me. Lukereiser 05:14, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Let's clear this up. Regulate... G Funk Era wasn't on Death Row it was on Def Jam / Violator. The song "Regulate" was on the album but was also on the soundtrack for Above the Rim earlier (as I fixed its link in the infobox today). And that soundtrack was produced by Death Row, but Warren G appeared only on this one track (you know soundtrack=compilation) and his label status is indicated on the cover : "Warren G appears courtesy of Violator...". But still the OST album is on Death Row. Remember that notoriuous moment at the 1995 Source Awards, when Suge Knight went on stage to accept the award for the Soundtrack of the Year and insulted the Bad Boy management? Hihi, that was fun indeed... Lajbi ^{Holla @ me} 14:36, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Alright lets see if I understand this hah, Warren G was never on Death Row but Regulate was featured on a complilation that Death Row put out? If thats true why does it say under the Warren G wiki entry under labels "Death Row 1994–1996"? If that true than when it says ""Death Row Records did not sign Warren G" it is incorrect? Lukereiser 01:12, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes it must be an obvious mistake. He got signed to Def Jam after the success of "Regulate". I was looking up if the 213 act was signed to Death Row, but nope. Lajbi ^{Holla @ me} 01:36, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm going to take the liberty of erasing "Death Row 1994–1996" from the Warren G article to preserve continuity. Thanks for clearing this up. Lukereiser 01:54, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Whoever wrote the plot of the song, well done. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.251.129.58 (talk) 02:42, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Very funny synopsis, it will get deleted so here is a permalink : [1] . LiamUK (talk) 12:14, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Please don't let anyone remove it. It's amazing! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.92.214.152 (talk) 15:53, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

This is most excellent. Let it stand as is.Leveldeaded (talk) 18:55, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

I see no reason why the synopsis should change or be deleted given that it is a clear and faithful summary of the lyrical content of the song. The song is ridiculous, so any description of it will either be condescending or itself ridiculous. --Notquitethere (talk) 22:47, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

It's excessively and unnecessarily descriptive, and strays a long way into the unencyclopedic. It's funny, yes, but that's not what Wikipedia is for. Catfish Jim and the soapdish (talk) 23:17, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

the last line of the first paragraph says, "from the 1998 film Young Guns." but it should read "from the 1988 film Young Guns." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.187.221.9 (talk) 19:31, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Third verse

Has anyone noticed when this gets radio play now, they fade out before the third verse? My only guess is one of the last lines by Nate Dogg 'if you smoke like I smoke then you're high like every day', obviously referring to marijuana, and 'your ass is a buster'. The drug reference can be easily bleeped out, and even 'ass' seems to slip by, or that could be bleeped or replaced easily. Was this song always censored? or is this a new development? Cander0000 (talk) 09:14, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

It likely depends on your radio station. Some stations I've listened to do the absolute minimum, by dropping the vocal track during the vowel sound in "fuck" and "shit" (and a few of George Carlin's forbidden words), doing it so quickly that you might not even notice the drop. Others replace every vaguely child inappropriate word with stupid sound effects that completely obscure it so you have no idea what was supposed to be there. One of the quasi-oldies (really light rock from 70s-90s) stations I've occasionally listened to insisted on playing Everlast's "What it's Like" but bleeping every other word (e.g. "killer", "whore", "drugs", "gun", ".45", "dead", etc.) such that you have no frickin' clue what it may or may not be like if you don't already know the song. Your station may have become more censorious lately, but I don't think there have been any regulatory changes to trigger it. —ShadowRanger ^(talk|stalk) 15:04, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Now that you mention it, I've heard that version of What It's Like and thought it was one of the silliest things. It's doesn't seemed to be explained by FCC regulations, real or feared, but a choice of the station? artist?... I see that What It's Like has a statement about the radio edits, I'll go ahead and add one here, too - hope I can find a source explaining it further.Cander0000 (talk) 19:21, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

young guns correction

young guns came out in 1988 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.241.31.130 (talk) 19:54, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Synopsis

This is one of the coolest/funniest things I've ever seen on Wikipedia. It makes the whole project worth it. Thank you. Gnat (talk) 03:20, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

I agree. I laughed and cried. Then I re-listened and re-read and I have to admit: what's written is very accurate. I think the current prose does an especially good job explaining what's going on with the weapons, as well as the transition into the more expository third verse. Kudos, very well done. J Crow (talk) 06:03, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

This outrageous synopsis is exactly the kind of material we need more of for outreach. It does no harm, it's factual, it will appeal to the article's target audience, and the many oblique hyperlinks provide an entry point for people who may be unfamiliar with Wikipedia. On these grounds, I would oppose efforts to make it more sensible, should they arise. --pmj (talk) 21:51, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

I changed the link from the phrase "East Side" from the wiki article on "East Los Angeles Region" to the correct "East Long Beach" Don't get it twisted busters. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.246.37.149 (talk) 04:13, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

the 213 conjecture

The current synopsis proposes that the lyric of "if your ass is a buster, 213 will regulate" be interpreted as: Nate concludes his delineation of the night by issuing a threat to "busters," suggesting that he and Warren will further "regulate" any potential incidents in the future (presumably by engaging their antagonists with small arms fire). I believe Nate intends to make a much broader point about the culture of his 213 area code being unkind to "busters" generally rather than implying specific, direct retribution from Nate and Warren. Further, perhaps Nate intends that life in the 213 has the effect of making one less of a buster over time, much as a farm boy will become less of a "hayseed" via life in a big city. Certainly the concept of regulate also may be interpreted more broadly to encompass not only violence but also teaching, mentorship, or merely continued exposure to the "game". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.62.28.242 (talk) 17:40, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

interesting, I had always assumed that 213 unequivocably referred to 213, the performing group that included Nate Dogg and Warren G. (of course the group was named after the area code, but being read that way would mean Nate was threatening direct 'regulation') It is definitely one of many lines that is open to interpretation by the listener, reflecting his or her background and experience.Cander0000 (talk) 00:48, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Lyrics

Why does the synposis say the woman was "impressed by Nate's singing ability"? There's no mention of singing. She doesn't say "my car's broke down and you *sing* real nice" -- she says "my car's broke down and you *seem* real nice." I think this line in the synposis shouldn't mention anything about singing ability -- it should just say that the woman surmised that Nate was a friendly person. Naseem19 (talk) 13:28, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

It needs to be pared down a lot more than that. A synopsis is a brief overview of a storyline, not a complete paraphrase. Catfish Jim and the soapdish (talk) 13:59, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

The synopsis is pretty ridiculous, and should really be removed... but I'm not going to do that just now when so many people seem to be finding it entertaining. At the very least, it should be preserved somewhere - it's a shame we don't have WP:BJAODN any more. Robofish (talk) 15:43, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

It's preserved in the page history, not to mention on hundreds of discussion forums, blogs, networking sites, etc. It's probably time to end this. Catfish Jim and the soapdish (talk) 15:59, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

For goodness' sake, what harm is it doing? It's entertaining, factually correct and makes the article worth reading. Haven't you got anthing better to do, Catfish Jim, than worry about one Wikipedia entry? Spotty Lizard 16:27, 3 August 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spotty Lizard (talk • contribs)

Perhaps you're right, but my gut instinct suggests not. Still, plenty of people seem to like it as it is... I've put in an RFC. Catfish Jim and the soapdish (talk) 19:25, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Seriously, just chill out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.41.248.125 (talk) 02:20, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Maybe pared down, but it's not like it's entirely vandalism. It's quite informative actually. That said, it's obvious that it's mostly for humor, but if you remove some of the obviously ironic language that I don't see why it can't be amusing. It's amusing because the content of the song is clearly meant to be conveyed through slang and rapping, not because the whole section is a joke. Tegrenath (talk) 16:52, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

I wouldn't touch it. I suspect that much of the objection to it is coming from the notion that it is humorous. Certainly, it is -- but it's also very informative and interesting! I've heard the song a thousand times but never really focused on the story being told. It's a classic, prototypical gangsta rap tale, and having a well-written (if ironically so) document of the story is actually rather informative. Now, yes, I am trying to find a way to defend something that was probably written with the intention of being funny... but, really, in addition to being rather funny it's also one of the most interesting, informative sections of any individual popular song article that I've ever read! ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 19:27, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

I didn't say anything about paring down -- I just suggested correcting for accuracy. Since no one seems to object, I'm going to make the correction. But I won't touch anything else because this page is just altogether hilarious. Please let it be. Naseem19 (talk) 01:04, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia has gone over to the 'tards. It was only a matter of time before hipsters, IT dudes, and frat boys were going to take over. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dondoolee (talk • contribs) 23:07, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Everybody above me who thinks the lyrics section should be pared down are obviously racist and don't want to let black men speak for themselves and tell their story. It's not YOURstory, it's HIStory. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Devon Vice (talk • contribs) 01:09, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

I made several changes to the synopsis to pare it down, make it more accurate, and make it more of an actual synopsis, as opposed to just flowery aggrandizement (read: whitewashing) of the lyrics. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.54.128.89 (talk) 18:32, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Disagree, recentism may make it hard to discern which songs are deserving or appropriate of detailed analysis or depth of coverage. Many songs, hip-hop, rap or otherwise, represent hallmarks of culture in the 20th and 21st century, much like now certian novels, plays, or stories are regarded as important to understanding past centuries. I'm not being grandiose..., perhaps this song is one of such, perhaps not, but it's a ripe candidate for being documented in depth because the narrative technique follows classic techniques and archetypes found in stories and tales as well as taking a position, through the viewpoints of its protagonists, on many factors of urbanization. If anything, this article should expand to balance the synopsis in depth of coverage in such areas a cultural impact, the influences that led to the song, and the working process of the songwriters. It will be challenging and will take time to find reliable sources for all that, but hey, new thought and coverage of Shakespeare emerges hundreds of years after his works.Cander0000 (talk) 00:42, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm inclined to restore the synopsis section, as it was more detailed than the short paragraph with which it was replaced. That said, I support edits to clean up the section, especially where links pipe to loosely related articles. Gobonobo ^{T C} 00:34, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Self-Defense

It is NOT self-defense for Nate to save Warren. There should not be a reference to the right of self-defense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.54.128.89 (talk) 18:30, 19 August 2010 (UTC)