User talk:Coren/Archives/2010/September

Suppressing revisions

I imagine if someone else were editing logged out as often as you do, their requests for having their IP suppressed would (eventually) be denied. Be more careful or just give up the damn game. It's not as though anyone cares which IP you're using. And even in some alternate universe in which someone did, they'd surely have it by now anyway. --MZMcBride (talk) 04:16, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your solicitous attention. Perhaps, then, you could solve my problem? Since about r64057 my session cookies seem to invalidate themselves randomly every couple of hours without warning, your vast fount of wisdom surely has a solution at hand? That'd be even more helpful than your most excellent advice. — Coren ^(talk) 04:24, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Try a different browser? A few thousand people seem to be able to edit around here everyday without issue (or at least without session issues!). --MZMcBride (talk) 04:31, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

every day* 75.183.116.243 (talk) 04:43, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

+1, irony? — Coren ^(talk) 15:02, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

It seems the obvious solution would be to set your skin to something other than the default. Or, at least, the display font. That way it would be obvious that you weren't logged in. For example, the default edit font is Courier New. You can change that, if not in preferences, then in your .css. Pretty easy to tell the difference between Courier New and, say, Verdana. Lara 05:00, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

The problem is when my session seemingly breaks between edit and commit; I notice immediately that I got logged off, but the change was saved. MZMcBride may have overstated the matter of frequency a bit, mind you, and it doesn't occur that often — but it's damn annoying when it does. — Coren ^(talk) 15:01, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

You could hit preview first. A habit I cannot get myself into, personally. This random signing out thing happens to me if I switch between browsers. I prefer Chrome, but if I open a link from IRC, it open in Firefox (because I use CZ), and then I get logged out from Chrome because I've logged in on FF. PITA.... Anyway, it's not irony considering I did it on purpose (above). It's not as fun poking MZ when he knows it's me. Lara 03:11, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Reply

Replied at my talk page. Hope you are doing well. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 19:51, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

I am, thanks. We'll respond to your email shortly. — Coren ^(talk) 19:53, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Dinhata (Vidhan Sabha constituency) and Sitai (Vidhan Sabha constituency)

I think CorenSearchBot has made a mistake. The link [[1]] leads to some materials linked with “Fairy Tale of a KOCH Princess, strings of Pain and Happiness and the forgotten Privy Purse!”. The only thing common is that both link to Cooch Behar district. Otherwise there is nothing in common. There is no question of copyright violation in this case, as I have collected the material from Government websites providing information about Indian elections. The text is in my own language. The same pattern has been used by me and other Wikipedians on numerous pages. Please arrange to remove the copyright tags. - Chandan Guha (talk) 02:28, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Climate change proposal typo

Your support vote for the logging proposal in the climate change arbitration is missing a signature. Tasty monster (=TS ) 03:13, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

So it did. Fix't. Thanks. — Coren ^(talk) 04:00, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

RTV

Coren, I believe WP:RTV does leave open the option to return as the same user, unless I'm misinterpreting the text at RTV (it is a bit confusing). Here is the text from RTV which seems to permit return: " if the user does return these pages may be undeleted or unblanked, and could be linked to any new account they create (if any). Of course the return of users in good standing or reformed "problem users" is welcomed if they happen to change their mind." ATren (talk) 05:17, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Well, the intent is the same; the vanishing allowed by RTV is undone by a return. I think that whether it's the same account or another is immaterial: the courtesy of blanking things is contingent on not returning. — Coren ^(talk) 12:40, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Essentially, exercising the right to vanish requires you to use no accounts, not because you're forbidden from editing under any accounts, but because editing from any account is by nature giving up the right to vanish. No? Heimstern Läufer (talk) 13:01, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Exactly. — Coren ^(talk) 13:03, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Letting you know

Hello, Coren. Since you've voted in favour of two remedies concerning ChrisO, I wanted to let you know that I've brought up an issue with a clause in those remedies here. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 14:05, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm keeping an eye on the talk page, and responded there. — Coren ^(talk) 14:09, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Please explain some of your votes in the Climate Change case

I (and I'm sure other editors) would like explanations of arbitrators' reasoning and votes in several areas of this case. I'm particularly concerned about your Fof 10.1 on William Connolley and BLPs. I've set up a section at the PD talk page here. [2] Politely discussing specific votes and the reasoning for them is the most likely way for most editors to avoid intense frustration. Many editors have put in long hours on this case and would like to know why you're coming to various conclusions about it. -- JohnWBarber (talk) 14:15, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Mass blanking of ten thousand articles by a 'bot

• Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Review of unblock request and discussion of possible community ban

In an Administrators' noticeboard discussion an interesting question has been raised. Presuming that we blank and categorize these thousands of articles, would CorenSearchBot be of any help in scanning the wikitext of the pre-blanking revisions for copyright violations? Note that CorenSearchBot didn't catch these articles when they were created. Uncle G (talk) 16:46, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) The only way CorenSearchBot would find the articles now if it didn't when they were created is if Yahoo has indexed a new website (possible, but doesn't seem very likely with these articles from what I've seen) or if the copyvio was added after the articles were created (I haven't actually looked at many of the articles to remember when the copyvio was added for sure, but I think it was at the very beginning), which means the bot probably wouldn't be much help without alot of tweaking. VernoWhitney (talk) 17:59, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

On a related note, User:CorenSearchBot/manual has a bug (some results show cv of [no link no link] and confidence of 141%). It's also missed a few copyvios :P —fetch·comms 22:39, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

The bug with the broken links and 141% confidence was caused by me feeding it [[:Foo]] and not [[Foo]], so that's not an issue that should normally come up. VernoWhitney (talk) 11:35, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Sadi Carnot is back and causing trouble

See the thread containing this diff: [3] Jehochman ^Talk 03:47, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

searchbot output

User:CorenSearchBot/manual shows hits in several wikipedia mirrors and wikipedia-derived sources like freebase (which is a GFDL/CC-BY-SA vio in its own right IMHO) that should be pretty obvious. 67.122.211.178 (talk) 09:27, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Try this variant on the toolserver, that one filters out many mirrors already. MLauba ^(Talk) 09:33, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

It only does one page at a time, though, and The Earwig has told me he has no time to add a multiple search at once functionality at this time. If anyone else knows python and can do it, it would be greatly appreciated. —fetch·comms 23:54, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Please look into this and reconsider the matter

I see what I would term clear personal attacks, and incivility, but I cannot support this finding as titled (as Brad mentions above, "disruption" is a term of art on Wikipedia that applies only to much more severe continued misbehavior). — Coren (talk) 00:34, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

In light of that statement at F11 (Polargeo) on the PD page for the Climate Change case, I'd like you to reconsider the matter after reading the comments here on the PD talk page, including a list of 19 personal attacks made by Polargeo against me and others, mostly on that talk page, just since August 24 (I had to stop somewhere in the past since it was getting tiring to list them all). Look at them, please. Judge whether or not it's an exaggeration to say that any individual one of them is not a personal attack as defined at WP:NPA. Your statement, above, mentions problems with the "disruption" part. Perhaps you could suggest alternate language or, if Newyorkbrad does, find something to support. -- JohnWBarber (talk) 21:34, 7 September 2010 (UTC)