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Congrats! Sandman888 (talk) Latest PR 12:08, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a million for swooping in and taking over! HausTalk 14:13, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for MV Geysir

The DYK project (nominate) 06:02, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

MV Mariam

What name was she launched under? Needs an entry on List of ship launches in 1982. Mjroots (talk) 20:00, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I can tell, Junia Star or Jounieh Star. The former gets more ghits. I've got a feeling there's more info on it at turkloydu.org, but can't seem to navigate to it yet. Cheers. HausTalk 20:03, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm seeing some info that makes me think that the news reports are wrong, but I don't think I can untangle it in one sitting. HausTalk 20:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC) Probably true, but not from a RS: "Fergün Express III (built as the Venture 84 in 1982, from 1983 to 1998 she was Emeraude’s Trident/Trident III)" HausTalk 21:09, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note to self, or anybody interested in following up. The ship was most likely: "Westamaran ...#W95... purchased in 1996 from French operator Emeraude Lines which had operated the vessel between France and the Channel Islands since 1983. The catamaran seats 250 passengers and has a service speed of 29 knots."[1] ...build name "Trident" soon renamed to "Trident 3".HausTalk 22:03, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'd love to be in on that DYK. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 13:26, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Running relief supplies instead of armaments-- yes, you can put my name to that. Thanks.Djembayz (talk) 17:00, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Personally, I'm more-or-less agnostic on the politics of the matter. The interesting bit to me is that it's possible to meet WP:N on a random 90-ft Turkish catamaran. :) HausTalk 18:03, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Haus, You did so much work on the Mariam, that I hope that you will help edit an article for the Avrazya, the ship that was hijacked by Islamist militants in the Black sea in 1996 Black Sea hostage crisis.AMuseo (talk) 16:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It would also make a dramatic DKY, hostages, hijacking, explosives...AMuseo (talk) 16:56, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I see a Czech-flagged ship with that name here: Template:Cite equasis. Some more background would be helpful in determining what is what. HausTalk 17:10, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That is not the right kind of ship. This would be a ferry that carried aobut 200 passengers. The Jerusalem Post calls it a "panamanian-registered ferry." Sometime it sees to be spelled Avrasya.AMuseo (talk) 00:17, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Question sur un navire français

Hi, sorry, but I d'nt know anything about this ship. I'll see if I find something about her in french and i'll tell you. Regards. CaptainHaddock (talk) 17:02, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merci! When I figured out where the route was, it occurred to me that it was right in your backyard. :) HausTalk 17:12, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ship AfDs

I've trawled the archives and added all ship articles I could find. Left off a couple of MILHIST articles though. Over to you now. Mjroots (talk) 12:48, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I did a awb search for ship articles with {{oldafdfull}}, so mine are skewed towards keep/no consensus. Were you ordering by date? HausTalk 12:50, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Chrono order is my preference. Mjroots (talk) 13:40, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

For fixing the ISO-639 new image. It did originally display correctly then suddenly it didn't. Much better now. Mjroots (talk) 10:35, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings!

Wilhelmina Will (talk) 20:37, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for MV Mariam

RlevseTalk 00:04, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of navigational stars

Hello. I noticed that you removed a column with light year distances from a table in this article per WP:COATRACK. I don't see though how such a column would've been coatracking. De728631 (talk) 23:03, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. It wasn't that it created a bias, but that the distance is not germane to the stars in terms of their use in navigation. I'm attempting to nudge the list towards a second FL candidacy, and while rewriting the background section, it became clear that including distance felt forced. Do you have a different opinion on it? Cheers. HausTalk 23:10, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed. I don't see anything wrong with including the distances. Someone might want to look that up and our articles are supposed to appeal to a broad readership, not only to experts on the topic. That's why I have restored the distances column for the time being. De728631 (talk) 23:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Would you be interested in adding a paragraph to the background section which explains why this is a useful statistic to include in these tables? I'm at a loss. HausTalk 23:26, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's not even necessary to include a rationale for it, it's statistics and it doesn't hurt. And the topic is also related to astronomy after all. De728631 (talk) 23:30, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I'll suggest deleting the column as I go through the FL process, and we'll see what other editors have to say. Cheers. HausTalk 23:38, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, that's a fair solution. Cheers, De728631 (talk) 19:04, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

site gCaptain.com

I would like to discuss the blacklisting of our site gCaptain.com. We are very interested in the quality of our links and have no interest in distracting the conversation here at wikipedia. We are all mariners and consider the work you have done to promote maritime issues on wikipedia important. I very much wish to talk to you both about the blacklisting and about how we can help promote your goals here on wikipedia. Thanks, John Konrad - coFounder - gCaptain.com admin@gcaptain.com - Phone +1.805.456.8644 --Gcaptain (talk) 20:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note. I've watched your site grow and it's a very useful source for mariners. What I'd like to do is point you to a couple of guidelines/policies in preparation for a more in-depth conversation. There's a naval saying that I hear once in a blue moon on merchant ships: "The book of safety is written in blood." or, less dramatically, the rules may seem silly but they are here for a reason. The main two that apply here are WP:ELNO and WP:SPS. Two others that may or may not become relevant are WP:NOT#OR and WP:NOTNEWS.
Wikipedia could benefit greatly from a few more active mariners. Off the top of my head, I'd be surprised if 20% of active U.S.-flag civilian ships have articles, and most of them are not very useful at all. Some, though, are a goldmine of information for the sailor joining the ship for the first time. Additionally, improving articles on the business of shipping such as The Jones Act, Seafarers International Union, and American Maritime Officers would help mariners and Wikipedia.
The hard part for mariners on Wikipedia is this: it doesn't matter what you know, it matters what you can prove. I could singlehandedly put out an E/R fire, but I can't write about it here unless its covered in a WP:RS. The essay WP:TRUE is a useful read on this subject.
All that said, I'd be happy to be a resource for you and your readers while I'm on the beach. Cheers. HausTalk 21:34, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

We can certainly work to have our readers help populate articles, they are passionate about sharing information online which is why a few of them probably went overboard with the links... but is that reason to ban the entire site? I don't know. The guidelines on external links is an important reference, should we (gCaptain editors) be policing the use of our domain as external links? That being said I do believe we are a reputable source as our blog is continuously referenced by the large media outlets, most recently the NYTimes, LA Times and NPR (among others) and we are not entirely self-published either as I currently am writing a book based on my blog posts about the Deepwater Horizon for HarperCollins. So what is the next step for us to both get off the blacklist but also to make sure our readers don't abuse wikipedia's policy's in the future?--Gcaptain (talk) 05:10, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]