User talk:Yce

Feel free to start discussions here. I like to discuss issues with people whom I disagree with so that both sides may learn (or at least get to know each other) something out of the discussion. However I hate unnecessarily aggressive and prejudiced talk which will not serve anything but only creating hostility.

RfC on Argyro

I put an RfC request for Argyrosargyrou. Feel free to contribute: Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Argyrosargyrou

Creating redirects

Hi Yce.

I ran across your merger of the duplicated articles Sabiha Gökcen and Sabiha Gokcen. That was a sensible thing to do; good catch! Just in case you merge two articles again, you don't need to use a "soft" redirect like you created here. I'm not sure if you've run across this before, but you can create automatic redirects for article names. The process is described in detail at Wikipedia:Redirect, but here's the important bit:

To redirect visitors to Sabiha Gökcen automatically to Sabiha Gokcen, replace the text in Sabiha Gökcen with

#REDIRECT Sabiha Gokcen

Anybody who goes to the first article will then automatically be taken to the second.

Cheers, --TenOfAllTrades (talk/contrib) 01:36, 20 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot TenOfAllTrades, I didn't have time to look at the Wikipedia:Redirect and I came up with "soft" solution ;). Thanks a lot for the information. - Cansın 7.40, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

Cyprus

Cansın, I liked what you wrote on the Cyprus Dispute case. Being neither Greek, Turkish, or Cypriot, I could look at the issue with a more detached view, and I came down on the side of the Turkish Cypriots. Also, I view the TRNC as a ligitimate, sovereign state with Turkey acting as it's protector. I hope to go there and visit sometime in '06. Expatkiwi

Hi, thanks for writing here and sharing your opinion. I hope the things in Cyprus get better for both communities in the near future. BTW, I personally do not like the idea of keeping national symbols (such as flag) on my page, or on my personal website. Please, do not take it personal but I am removing the TRNC flag with your permission. Thanks for your understanding. Cansın 21.44, 5 June 2005 (UTC)

I had posted the following on Wikipedia: Murat Aga and Sandalla casualty list, Atlilar casulaty list, and 1963-1967 Turkish Cypriot Casualty List. Now these pages have been put up for votes on deletion. Looks like somebody doesn't like seeing the actual names of those who were killed..... -- Expatkiwi 23:55, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hi, they may be mentioned in Cyprus Dispute issue under casualty section instead of being another entry. --Cansın 2.40, 11 June 2005 (UTC)

Merhaba Cansın Bey

Ben Türkiye den bir yurttaşınızım , buralarda beraber dayanışma içinde olalım diye düşündüm, kendinize iyi bakın Ankara'dan selamlar - aozan

selamlar, tartismalarda sabir ve kolayliklar, sagduyu hicbir zaman kaybetmemek umidiyle. - Cansın

Kurdistan Workers Party

I noticed your comments on the PKK talk page. I'm currently attempting to correct grammatic and POV errors in the text, and have provided a diff on the talk page showing an initial series of edits. If you'd take a look at it, I would appreciate it.--Scimitar 19:23, 13 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Yce.jpg

Image:Yce.jpg needs to tagged with its source and copyright status or it may be deleted. Nv8200p 21:43, 8 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Image copyright Problem Image:GaziEvrenosMausoleum-Giannitsa.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:GaziEvrenosMausoleum-Giannitsa.jpg and for stating the source. However, its copyright status is unclear, so it may have to be deleted. If it is open content or public domain, please give proof of this on the image page. If the image is fair use, please provide a rationale. If you don't know what any of this means, just give me more information about where you got the image on the image page. Thanks so much for your help.

P.S. If you didn't leave a image copyright tag on the image, please do so next time. This allows Wikipedia's images to be easier managed and to comply with copyright law. Thank You.

I see that the image came from one of the external links from the article, but it doesn't look like you hold the copyright. Is this image really public domain or not? Franzeska 20:59, 18 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, as you have figured out I found the image on one of the external links. I don't hold the copyrights. Since it is on that website I just took it and uploaded. hope it is ok. Cansın

It's probably not ok. Most images on the web are under copyright unless they specifically say they are public domain. You should only upload things to Wikipedia if you hold the copyright or know they are public domain. Franzeska 05:38, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Atatürk page

Hi, I notice you have added to Ataturk page before, a new page called Criticism of Atatürk has been created containing quite a long slab of unencylopedic text about Ataturk. There is a disagreement running in the discussion whether Ataturk should be accused of a genocide or not, i'd appreciate your input since i tire of chasing after these things. --A.Garnet 21:50, 2 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi A.Garnet, thanks for informing and inviting me, however, I stopped being involved in these kind of discussions. I was convinced that there are a lot of people who can spend all of their times by spreading propaganda on Wikipedia and unfortunately there are such people among the administrators. This kind of sensitive discussions lead nowhere, since people involved in or started these discussions are very biased and have their own agenda. I don't have energy and time for endless discussions and I wish you have enough patience and time for it. Best. Cansın 18.30, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

I dont blame you, i too have lost my patience. Best of luck with your other endeavours. --A.Garnet 22:32, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

TWI/AG

The Armenian Genocide goes a long way to explain why the Turks had to fight the Armenians as well as the Greeks during this time period. As it is, the article focusses too much on the Greek front which is why some think it ought to be merged. The Turko-Armenian conflict (and its causes), the Turko-Kurdish conflict and the Republo-Sultanic conflict all need expansion in the Turkish War of Independence article. Caerwine 23:26, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Caerwine, I am just sensitive to the words: What does Turko mean? Turko means "One of a body of native Algerian tirailleurs in the French army, dressed as a Turk" according to dictionary.com. When you use Turko with a dash as Turko-Armenian, then it means Armenians of Turkish decent which I don't think you tried to mean. I am not trying to be a smart alec, please do not misunderstand me, but we have to be careful what we are trying to say and how. I also didn't understand what you meant by Republo-Sultanic conflict? Do you mean the conflict between Ottoman Sultan and Turkish Nationalists under Mustafa Kemal Atatürk? Anyway, if I come back to our discussion, Turkish War of Independence article is currently very weak and lacking a lot of details. It is strongly correlated with the results of World War I. The most important emphasis about the Independence War is that the war was a Turkish uprising not only against Ottoman Sultan and his government who alligned themselves with the Allied Powers, but also against the Allied Powers who already occupied and divided the remnants of the Ottoman Empire. There was Turkish-Armenian conflict started in 1919 between the newly founded Armenian state and the Turkish Nationalists and ended with the Treaty of Kars in 1921. However it is not reasonable to refer to Armenian Genocide page which mainly concentrates on 1914 events under Ottoman government. When I have more time I will work on the article which is now nothing more than a chronological order of the events. Best. Cansın 26 September 2005

thanks for enrties. (yazılarınız için teşekkürler)

About the POV tag

Someone inserted some test tag there, so the POV tag was not removed, but rather replaced by some tag they are testing. I wonder how long they'll keep testing it. Fadix 03:04, 8 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

ulan nerelerdesin

Wikipedianın gülü naber ben ozgur ituden olum napıyon lan sana ulasılmıyo. Media:Example.ogg öptüm selamlarrrr.

Taniyamadim, fakat [1] de web sayfamin linki var, oradan da kontak bilgilerimi bulabilirsin. 7 Feb. 2006

DNA haritaları ve etnik kimlikler

Merhaba,

Birkaç kullanıcı etnik kimlik sayflarına zorla Dna haritaları koyarak, etnik kimlikleri tekrardan yazmaya çalışıyor. Hiç kimsenin saf kan olmadıgı günümüzde bu tip tavırlar cok saçma olmalı.

Etnik kimlik, kişinin kendisini nasıl tanımladıgına baglı oldugunu düşünüyorum. Örnegin, hiç kimse annemin ve babamın üyesi oldugu etnik grubun dna larının %... bilmem kaçı şurdan, bilmem kaçı burdan geliyor diyerek kendisini tanımlamıyor. Ben Türküm veya İngilizim diyor.

Sizin fikrinizi almak istedim, sizce haklımıyım haksızmıyım ?

Muhabbetle, --TuzsuzDeliBekir 11:04, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Selam, sahsen dna haritasi ve etnik kimliklerle ilgilenmiyorum. Ama etnik kimligi on plana cikarmak her zaman moda. Batinin yarattigi ve anladigi anlamda irkciligin da temelini olusturan, nice insanlik trajedilerine neden olan bir takinti. Gunumuzun en populer davranis ve kendini ifade edis bicimi. Ne yazik ki sizin hakliliginiz veya benim dusuncelerim sadece bizi bagliyor. Her konuda oldugu gibi bu konuda da bireysel dusunceler goreceli gelistigi icin pek bir anlam ifade etmiyorlar, cunku insiyatifi elinde bulunduran cogunluk her zaman kendi dogrularinin propagandasini yapiyor. Batinin hem kendini soyutlamak hem de somurdugu bolgelerde halklari bolebilmek amaciyla yuzyillardir guttugu irkcilik politikasini simdi teknolojinin de yardimiyla gen haritalariyla harmanliyorlar. Sonu nereye variri bilemem. Sabirlar. 7 Feb 2006