Talk:Volleyball jargon

Hmm?

Many of these terms are rather suspect. I'm killing "frosty walrus" now, a term for which I can find no existence on the internet outside this page (except alternate sexual definitions).

Tidyup

I've looked through [1], [2] and [3], which are essentially the first three relevant Google hits for "volleyball jargon", and the following terms mentioned on this page don't appear:

• Cheeseburger
• Chester
• Donut/Campfire
• Domed
• Doubles
• Facial
• Fist/Rock
• Goofy footer
• Off-side hitter
• Party ball
• Roll (roll shot is mentioned)
• Second
• Short
• Shutout/bagel/goose-egg
• Six-pak
• Strong-side hitter
• Switch

I will delete these items from the list unless some evidence is provided as to their common usage (ie one mention on an arbitrary web site doesn't count). Cheers --Pak21 10:33, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

I'd say you should keep goofy-footer, but I have no problem with removing the rest of them. Goofy-footer is extremely common when speaking about players and their abilities. Cheers, PaddyM 16:36, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Done. I've heard "goofy" mentioned in various circles (surfing, skateboarding) so I've kept it. Cheers --Pak21 08:26, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

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Some of these really aren't so much jargon, but slang. Perhaps there should be a distinction between them. Regardless, a "six-pack" is when you hit someone in the face, see http://www.ehow.com/how_17290_give-six-pack.html. Typically, one talks about "Outside hitter" or "Weak-side hitters." While strong-side is used, it's typically just called "outside." Weak-side is the right-side. "Bagel," "shut out," and "goose egg" are typical sports terms, and not unique to volleyball. Even though they are used in volleyball (since it's a sport), it's probably best removed and only terms unique to volleyball are retained. While some people might start the approach with the wrong foot, I've never heard of "goofy foot" being applied to hitters (I also surf and skateboard, and agree it's common, but have never heard of it in volleyball). Other things I've also never heard:

• Spach or Spachey
• Go
• Chizzy
• Hut

Faultymonk 01:09, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I created an article for the term pepper within wikipedia. If you search 'volleyball pepper' I'm sure you'll see it. I didn't realize 'volleyball jargon' existed on this page. I notice baseball has a category entitled 'baseball terminology'. Should we create one for volleyball? This way people can expand their definitions with photos and more backing - especially for one's like six-pack! I'm new to wiki so any help or thoughts are appreciated. Maybe I should just add pepper to the jargon list and move on. Vballjohn 16:28, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Someone just added "Vegas Line". I don't doubt that some people have said this one, but I don't think it's commonly known. I've never heard it, and I run a junior volleyball club and assist as a coach at a high school. I think it should be removed, but I don't want to be hasty about it, in case I'm just leading an insulated life. Wiredcoach 03:34, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Ace?

I've heard that the only two sports to officially employ the term "Ace" were golf and tennis. Could someone find a source to either prove this or prove this wrong? _└^Jared_┘^┌_talk^┐  22:08, 29 January 2007 (UTC) Yaegan 07:11, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Ace is very commonly used, and is exactly as it says in the jargon page, an example is at http://www.avf.org.au/index.php?id=32&tx_ttnews[pS]=1170718827&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=306&tx_ttnews[backPid]=31&cHash=168f0eab05

and: http://www.fivb.org/EN/Volleyball/Competitions/WorldChampionships/men/2006/Press/viewPressInfo.asp?Category=2&MatchNo=1&No=12108

I have never heard of goofy footed in volleyball, but switch or switching being the transition of players whilst the ball is in play, and six-packs (being hit in the face by the ball) is also common use, although I have no evidence to back that up other than my own playing experience. Yaegan 07:11, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for those, but I already understood that it was a jargon word, but does the official federation for volleyball refer and mark down serves like these as aces, or is it just a casual term that is not official? Because like in tennis, if a serve goes unreturned, it is officially called and marked down and tabulated as an ace, while I think volleyball just calls it that for no reason other than to say what just happened. _└^Jared_┘^┌_talk^┐  19:53, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Clean-up

I've slightly reorganized the page, splitting the terms into generic and sets, so help make it a little more legible. I've also removed a number of terms which are highly suspect as to their applicability to a larger volleyball audience (as opposed to the gym in which they were created and still used). If people have objections, so be it, but this article is pretty gross and needs some serious work. Cheers, PaddyM 18:44, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Nice job. I've created a third category called "methods of contacting the ball" to try to trim down the size of the general terms list. I guess it's not 100% clear which terms belong where... oh well. Also created a "slang" sublist. Not entirely clear which terms should go there either. Rracecarr 21:31, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Hand Signals

I originally came across this page while searching for what hand signals setters use to call various plays. Is that something worth adding to the types of sets section? Also, along those lines, should there be a distinct section for Types of Sets and another for Plays?

For example:

Back-One: (description per main page here). The setter signals this set by making a fist with only the pinky finger extended.

Stack: (description...). The setter signals this play by making a fist with each hand and touching the top of one fist to the bottom of the other.

And so forth for all the other plays and sets. Mpcapps (talk) 19:45, 5 May 2009 (UTC)