Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 January 19
January 19, 2006
- Delete. unneeded fork of template:Web reference. --Adrian Buehlmann 18:15, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- Keep as above. Septentrionalis 16:12, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
- Delete: orphaned and unnecessary. —Phil | Talk 09:55, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. It was created as a necessary alternative for some purposes. And two articles currently use it. Deleting this would be deletionism gone off the cliff. — Stevie is the man! Talk | Work 05:14, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
- Delete — Modern use of term pejorative, not NPOV. Concept covered under Category "Blood_sports". Rorybowman 16:40, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- KEEP AND EXPAND - Each article included in this template clearly fits the definition of a Bloodsport. Templates are commonly used in Wikipedia to aid people to find further information. This template resides at the bottom of the articles and enhances the them. In addition, I have noticed Rorybowman ranting a lot on various article Discussion pages about NPOV and other issues. Perhaps, if he focuses on writing articles, rather than complaining about articles, he would make a stronger contribution to the Wiki. Cordially SirIsaacBrock 21:26, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. Inherently POV. Kafziel 15:46, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- Keep - it seems accurate to me. - Hayter 16:45, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- Keep - The POV aspects escape me. - Cuivienen 04:30, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
- Keep, doesn't seem POV to me but the inclusion of sport fishing is (eeek, is that a meta-POV?) I have restored the tfd notice, which was removed by User:SirIsaacBrock. -- AJR | Talk 16:34, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: wouldn't this be better off as a category? I have similar concerns about sport fishing, and the inclusion/exclusion arguments are better made on the article pages vis the Categorization, rather than hidden in a template. -- nae'blis (talk) 22:14, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- Keep - while the template title is pejorative and is certainly a candidate for being considered non-NPOV, the template itself is useful in an encyclopaeidic sense and there is no alternative title that can be used that would be meaningfully understood. Accordingly the template should stay, in my opinion. --Hux 12:12, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Template:Wwdb
Delete — Another template (Template:Wwdb_name) already does the same job, and the latter is categorized as well as being used. Jeekc 11:10, 19 January 2006 (UTC) Jeekc 11:10, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom--Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 17:06, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- I'm no expert on this, but wouldn't it be simpler to move the Wwdb_name template here, instead of the needlessly longer version? -- nae'blis (talk) 22:12, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
I recently made a change to Template:Wiktionary such that Wiktionarypar is now obsolete. The new Wiktionary template works in three modes, documented on that page. The 1st mode (no params) uses the PAGENAME and searches Wiktionary. The 2nd mode uses a parameter to define a direct link, and the 3rd mode adds a parameter for a display name for that direct link. -- Netoholic @ 08:40, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- This template is not obsolete. Indeed, quite the opposite. Over the past few months, I've been gradually replacing {{wiktionary}} with {{wiktionarypar}}, as per the consensus of several editors reached on Template talk:Wiktionary and the Village Pump back in July 2005. Please read that discussion for the background. Ironically, it is {{wiktionary}}, not {{wiktionarypar}}, that is obsolete. (The bells and whistles added to Template:Wiktionary in recent months are not reasons to use it.) Keep. Uncle G 08:54, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- Template:Wiktionary is the original template, has a lot of historically important info on the talk (wiktionarypar has nothing), and a more natural name for the function. It should certainly stay, and now has the functions necessary to replace wiktionarypar. I can run a bot to replace the wiktionarypar calls, so that's nothing to be concerned about. -- Netoholic @ 08:57, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- Talk pages can be renamed and retained. The comparative ages of the templates is irrelevant. The "natural name" for an interwiki tag that takes parameters is in fact one ending in "-par", since that is what the suffix means. The functions that you've added to {{wiktionary}} have made it worse, not better. You've been fiddling with a template that consensus was to stop using, haven't improved it one iota, and are now trying to have deleted the template that consensus was to switch to. Uncle G 09:08, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- Template:Wiktionary is the original template, has a lot of historically important info on the talk (wiktionarypar has nothing), and a more natural name for the function. It should certainly stay, and now has the functions necessary to replace wiktionarypar. I can run a bot to replace the wiktionarypar calls, so that's nothing to be concerned about. -- Netoholic @ 08:57, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- Keep overzealous deletion of demonstrably useful templates. Find summut better to do. — Dunc|☺ 09:16, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- Why do we need to keep template forks that can perform the exact same function? -- Netoholic @ 09:20, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. BlankVerse 13:19, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. Template:wiktionary is pathetically inefficient. --Connel MacKenzie 10:52, 21 January 2006 (UTC) (Wiktionary sysop)
- Delete, but modify Template:Wiktionary to not use {{PAGENAME}}, as that will only lead people to non-existant pages (in 95% of the cases). Jon Harald Søby 11:08, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- It uses PAGENAME but doesn't link directly to "PAGENAME". It runs through Wiktionary's search, and works quite well. I've added a note to the Usage, advising people to check the link before committing. -- Netoholic @ 18:38, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- The search link is just a kludge. There is no actual need for a template that invokes a search, and doing so is a wholly unnecessary burden on the servers. Uncle G 08:08, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- In other words: Modify {{wiktionary}} to be identical to {{wiktionarypar}} as it currently stands, do all of the work of undoing all of the work that has already been done over the past months to migrate to {{wiktionarypar}}, and get rid of {{wiktionarypar}}. That's the exceedingly long way around. The short way around is to complete the migration to {{wiktionarypar}} that has been progressing for the past few months, and delete {{wiktionary}} (if you are really determined to delete something). Uncle G 08:08, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- It uses PAGENAME but doesn't link directly to "PAGENAME". It runs through Wiktionary's search, and works quite well. I've added a note to the Usage, advising people to check the link before committing. -- Netoholic @ 18:38, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per Uncle G. —Locke Cole • t • c 03:02, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
- Everyone seems to have missed the point that the template has been changed to do the same thing wiktionarypar does. Having that one template makes things much simpler, so as long as a bot is run to remove all occurences of wiktionarypar before it is deleted, then I don't see a problem with it. In fact, I've wondered why it hasn't been done. Delete after all occurences are replaced. Neonumbers 04:12, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- No, it is you who are missing the point. The template does the same thing that {{wiktionarypar}} does (but less efficiently and using complex template code to do it — where in comparison {{wiktionarypar}} has no such complexities), but was only changed to that after several editors had independently decided to move everything to {{wiktionarypar}}, and several months' work of moving to {{wiktionarypar}} had already been done. At the point that this discussion started, there were fewer than 500 uses of {{wiktionary}} left to convert, down from several thousand. The template that you should be looking to delete after moving everything to one template is {{wiktionary}}. Uncle G 08:08, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: Just what would have been so difficult about converting {{wiktionary}} to use the proposed code in {{wiktionarypar}}? You're needlessly introducing complexity into the system with this name change. -- nae'blis (talk) 22:18, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
Template:SunfazerLegit
Delete — Doesn't seem like it will be used much (currently used on one page), can't be used by other users -- Colonel Cow 01:01, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: I think there exists {{doppelganger}} for things like this... 68.39.174.238 04:46, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- Note: That or {{SockpuppetProven}} with a note applied by the user, linking to an acknowledgement by the other user. 68.39.174.238 04:47, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- Userfy fine, but it should be in user's template space. --James S. 07:21, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- Comment - A 'Legitimate Sockpuppet' tag is needed? --Sunfazer (talk) 19:59, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- Delete after either userfying or replacing with {{doppelganger}}, depending upon Sunfazer's preference. BlankVerse 13:22, 20 January 2006 (UTC)