Talk:Mark Hamill

Trivia

• He is the fourth of seven children, having four sisters and two brothers.
• He has been married to Mary Lou York, since December 17, 1978, with whom he has three children. They met when she was his dental hygienist.
• He attended Walsingham Academy (founded by the Sisters of Mercy) in Williamsburg, Virginia. He briefly attended Annandale High School before his family moved to Japan when he was 16.
• He attended Yokohama High School, now known as Nile C. Kinnick High School. Kinnick H.S. has an award named in his honor; it is presented every year in June to two seniors (one male, one female) who excel in drama.
• He recently appeared in a Comcast commercial as a 'future expert'.
• He campaigned for George McGovern during the 1972 presidential race.
• He was originally cast as David Bradford on Eight is Enough. Having just completed Star Wars, Hamill felt the movie was going to be a hit, and wanted to focus on his film career. And while he did play David in the pilot, Grant Goodeve played the character for the rest of the show's run.
• Appeared with Carrie Fisher in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. It was the first time either of them had been in a movie together since Return of the Jedi. Neither knew the other was involved until shortly after principal photography wrapped.
• British comic The Beano at one time was advertising its fan club saying that Mark Hamill was a member.
• He based the voice he gave the Joker for Batman: The Animated Series on a combination of Hannibal Lecter and Jerry Lewis.

(note: it can be argued that trivia should not be in the body of the text of an encyclopedia (if one believes that an encylopedia is a dense summary of the core facts about a topic or person) : ) .... but there is a lot of work here, and it is interesting, and could be placed on a Talk page or fan discussion site

Picture

why not get some current pictures of him. get rid of the luk skywaler pic and put pics of him not in a role just a thoughtYourname 22:40, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I moved the picture to get rid of the one inch gap it caused. Dark jedi requiem 03:01, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Couldn't that picture be cropped a little more to remove the other person on the left? Also he is looking kinda crazy in that picture. Inseeisyou (talk) 09:53, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree. Is it me or does the picture make Mark Hamill look like Admiral Akbar? It looks like he's in the middle of saying "It's a trap!" re: http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/f/fb/Ackbar_HS.jpg66.241.32.158 (talk) 13:13, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

The current picture is horrible. Does anyone have anything better?--75.152.169.231 (talk) 19:04, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. Anything would be better. MaximCHS (talk) 11:53, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

I also Agree. i literally went "Gah!" and cringed slightly when it loaded, it looks like he is wearing prosthetics. 124.181.22.155 (talk) 05:36, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

The Accident

It looks like a lot of rumours about the accident exist. I see several different versions of the accident story here, e.g here we have this paragraph describing the accident:

On 11 January 1977, on the way to shoot one of the final scenes needed for Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope, Hamill was involved in a car accident that caused substantial damage to his face. A double was used for the scene of Luke racing across the desert in his landspeeder while Mark was hospitalized. Supposedly, he was told by his surgeons that although facial reconstruction surgery could save his career in the short term, it would have only temporary results. Over time, the scarring would become increasingly visible, and he would have to rethink his acting career. In an A&E Biography special from 2002, the nature and result of the accident are explained by Hamill's family.

Or the current version:

On 11 January 1977, on the way to shoot one of the final scenes needed for Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope, Hamill was involved in a car accident that caused damage to his face. Though some minor scarring would last, the severity of his injury was greatly exaggerated in the following years. Rumors continue to abound that he suffered terrible disfigurement and was forced to undergo intense plastic surgery in order to resume his acting career. Hamill, however, insists he only suffered from a broken nose. In the second Star Wars film, Episode V, he is seen with a new scar along his upper lip which may or may not be related. In an A&E Biography special from 2002, the nature and result of the accident are explained by Hamill's family.

I wonder what the truth is here; I think there is some disagreement over what really happened. Did the accident really damage him that badly, or is this another urban legend?

Doing some reasearch, the A&E special is called "Biography: Mark Hamill: A Force to Be Reckoned With", which aired on Tuesday, May 21, 2002. This program can be bought on VHS here, and the promo for this states that Mark Hamill "endur[ed] multiple surgeries to rebuild his face". I think it is reasonable, in light of this, to put more accident detail in to this article. Samboy 23:37, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Doing more research, here is another report concerning the accident:

Reports of Hamill's wreck quickly spiraled out of control, with reports of extensive plastic surgeries required to rebuild the actor's visage and scenes in The Empire Strikes Back (1980) having to be refilmed to account for his facial scarring and convalescence. In fact, Hamill broke his nose six months prior to shooting Corvette Summer and needed one corrective surgery

Samboy 23:55, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

In this edit, some IP removed one side of the stuff I researched above. I have since restored it. Samboy 04:15, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

From cabbagestew 19:00, 10 August 2008 (PDT): I think what is written here in the Car Accident section is as accurate as it can be. I added the references. I also own a copy of the A&E special. If his older brother and sister as well as his cousin all talk about this accident, then it is definitely true. Also, there are way too many articles in the late 1970s (including the one I referenced) that discuss the accident in detail.

Just my two cents

While I do believe from what I've read that the accident happened, I wouldn't say that a brother, sister, and cousin talking about the accident makes it "definitely true", they are all family after all. I think it reads fine as is however. Inseeisyou (talk) 09:59, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Whatever the truth about the extent of Hamill's surgery was, it was shockingly obvious to me how different he looked in Empire than in A New Hope as a result of the accident. And I don't mean the just the scar; his nose is completely different. In fact, if you showed a before and after to someone who had no knowledge of Hamill, they probably wouldn't think that they were even the same person. 74.131.29.186 (talk) 04:08, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

What is the point of mentioning the accident in the article? I fail to see how it is notable based on its wording at the moment. The section doesn't imply that it had any lasting significance. Dwr12 (talk) 02:34, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

What Mark Hammil does with his appendages

Left handed? Is this really wikiworthy?

Hamill's Military Brat Background

Hamill is listed as a 'Famous Military Brat' In another Wiki Article-- that article should be linked somewhere in this one.

Growing up as a military brat is actually a very unique experience with unique challenges (including having a very international childhood, growing up with high mobility and also often with a noticable military influence within the family). So this aspect of Hamills life adds an interesting dimension to his personal story.

Such an upbringing may also have made him a good choice to play the role of an apprentice warrior living on the outer fringes of an Empire (some resonance there with the good and bad aspects of the military brat life that involves living on or near military posts in the outer edges of the American Empire).

In the wiki article "Military Brats (Subculture)" Hamill can be found listed under the section entitled "Famous Military Brats". I recommend placing that articles' link within this article.

Sean7phil (talk) 01:52, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

General comment on this article

Lots of lists do not make for good prose. Please avoid using them instead of writing out your sentences. Thanks. Raul654 00:10, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey, I got something more to add here : This article does not give Hamill's filmography in an easily readable way. It may recquire a "form cleanup". Have a look at the structure of the article about Harrison Ford. To know what I'm talking about. As I'm not a Mark Hamill specialist, I don't know how to do it. But maybe someone here can help. King mike 20:25, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Mike is right about the general policy on filmography. Having a list of works doesn't qualify as a superfluous or unprofessional use of lists. Thence, someone really should change it. 66.229.182.113 09:18, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

If you want to have a list of Hamill's filmography, go to IMDB or to the Official Mark Hamill Fan Club. You'll get your list there. This is a general list of things about Mark, is it not?? Terri Tasker 07:44, 24 June 2006 (UTC)a markfan

The other animated series?

"In addition to his role as Luke Skywalker, Hamill is also best known as the voice of the Joker in Batman: The Animated Series and the other animated series that followed it."

Who wrote this? "the other animated series that followed it." Are you referring to Batman Beyond or something?

I assumed the author was referring to Hamill reprising the Joker character in "The New Batman Adventures", "The Batman/Superman Movie" (a/k/a "World's Finest") and in guest appearances on "Justice League".12.162.189.80 20:30, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

I bow down to thee. --Yancyfry jr 04:31, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I also noticed that there's nothing about him as one of the Tribunal characters in the Adult Swim series involving Dethlok.--24.7.162.39 05:29, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

In the anime section, he also provided a voice for one of the starring characters in Steamboy.

re: Invader Zim

but was ultimately turned down for the role; the part was later given to Richard Steven Horvitz (he didn't scream longest and loudest).

Is this an Invader Zim in-joke? What does that even mean? I wanted to clean up this sentence as it is apparently so contentious that it requires two citations, but I'm too confused by the screaming comment to proceed. Can anyone help? -- Waverly 22:52, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

It means Zim screams long and loud. Horvitz screamed long and louder than Hamill, so Horvitz got the role. It was a very confusingly written sentance, though, suggesting that it was Horvitz who didn't audition an impressive scream. -- AvatarMN (talk) 18:49, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Weird Al TWAS Parody

I know that George Lucas and Alec Guinness both supported the Star Wars parody that "Weird Al" Yankovic was going to make in an episode of "The Weird Al Show". Mark Hamill was the only one who turned Al down because, in Al's words, he thought "people were sort of pigeon-holing him as "that Star Wars Guy". He thought he wouldn't want to egg that on." Where shuold I put this in the article, if need mentioning? StrongBad27 14:09, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

You'd first need to find a citable source for that info. If you can, then it could probably be said in a sentence in the "live action television" paragraph under "Other Work." However, I wonder if it's really worth going into a role he didn't take on this page, since actors turn down roles all the time and Hamill's turning down of this particular role doesn't seem all that notable an event in his life. The info may be a better fit on the article for The Weird Al Show. Rob T Firefly 16:04, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

three testicles?

"Throughout his youth, Mark struggled with exclusion from his peers, who often ridiculed him after they dicovered that he had three testicles and was still unable to count at the age of 23[2]."

I'm gonna call shenanigans on this. I can't find anything liek this anywhere else, and since the link cited is www.nocumdodgingallowed.com I think it's fake/false info. How do we remove it?

71.11.207.202 (talk) 21:29, 13 March 2008 (UTC)gandalf23

Air Force One

He played a pilot in the movie Air Force One where he dies at the end. The president is played by Harrison Ford who stared with Mark in Star Wars.Yami (talk) 23:58, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

...No he didn't! --Soetermans | is listening | what he'd do now? 11:22, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Thoughts on his "career" post Star Wars

Instead of titling this section with being his "post Star Wars career" why not change the title to "Struggles in the Industry after Star Wars. He has had a very lucrative voice over career since Star Wars, so he hasn't disappeared entirely from the scene, so I don't think the title fits the section. Thought? Valley2390 (talk) 21:24, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

also his work on the show metalocolypse should be noted 68.39.154.24 (talk) 16:41, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

That would be even worse, stating Hamill had "struggles". --Soetermans | is listening | what he'd do now? 11:22, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

There aren't any official news regarding Mark Hamill being cast in the upcoming Robotech (2010) film...

The sources listed in the article don't contain any reference to such information. Modify/update the article when there is official information available...

Kronnang Dunn (talk) 23:16, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back

I saw a citation was needed for "However, neither of the stars were aware of this until the film's premiere."

The only place I've read this is at the Trivia section of the movie itself at IMDb. Here's the link. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0261392/trivia

I don't know if it's sufficient though.

Pholten (talk) 20:52, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Where is Body bags?

Did I just over look this? I know he had a role in the film but did not see it on the list. --1WickedClown (talk) 10:14, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Filmography

This ought to include When Time Expires, 1997 91.107.92.159 (talk) 21:48, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Filmography should include TV appearance in "Streets of San Francisco", Season 5, Episode 17, Title: "Innocent No More", first aired Feb. 24, 1977, character name: Billy Wilson, member of juvenile gang charged with murder of 80 year old woman. This was filmed before the accident but aired just a month after it. Source: imbd page for "Streets of S.F.", Season 5, at: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0711536/ . Verification: I saw the episode - he tied the lady up with a guitar string (the low E) and she died of a heart attack. Tluber (talk) 02:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC) tluber 03/10/10

Clean-up

This page is in dire need of clean-up. I started the process by reorganizing the sections - separating his career into live action and voice acting roles, since he has achieved a measure of fame in each separately. Also, I removed any arbitrary headers for certain movies - like Jay and Silent Bob or Comic Book Movie, because those roles weren't anymore notable than anything else he's done, so they don't deserve special consideration. As it is now, all of his acting roles (voice and live) are just arbitrarily placed - probably as contributors thought of them. It would be best if they were organized chronologically, but with respect to each category (i.e. keeping voice and live separate). I will take a crack at this later if no one else is willing. —Godheval^{T C W} 20:15, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Couldn't agree more.. Take a look at this phrase.. "One of the rare celebs to live almost at a similar level to president Obama and the rest of America than most of the well to do celebs in california..." Oy... Dphilp75 (talk) 02:20, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Awards

This should go in - Shouldn't it
I have no time to produce this table at the moment.  Piandao  21:52, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Awards and Nominations

Academy of Science Fiction, Fantasy & Horror Films, USA

1984 Won Saturn Award Best Actor: Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi (1983)

1981 Won Saturn Award Best Actor: Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980)

1978 Nom Saturn Award Best Actor: Star Wars (1977)

Annie Awards

2001 Nominated Annie Outstanding Individual Achievement for Voice Acting by a Male Performer in an Animated Feature Production: Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker (2000) - As the voice of "The Joker".

1994 Nominated Annie Best Achievement for Voice Acting: "Batman" (1992)

DVD Exclusive Awards

2005 Won DVDX Award Best Live-Action DVD Premiere Movie: Comic Book: The Movie (2004) (Shared with: Scott Zakarin, Eric Mittleman

2005 Nom DVDX Award Best Actor (in a DVD Premiere Movie): Comic Book: The Movie (2004)

2005 Nom DVDX Award Best Director (of a DVD Premiere Movie): Comic Book: The Movie (2004) (V)

2001 Won Video Premiere Award Best Animated Character Performance: Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker (2000) Shared with: Bruce W. Timm (character designer: The Joker)

ShoWest Convention, USA

1978 Won ShoWest Award Male Star of Tomorrow

Pointless picture

The unclear photo of his hand prints??? I think it needs removing - so I'm gonna!..... I did  Piandao  21:52, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Hoth injury written to explain accident damage?

This has been added without a source, and then again by reusing the source from the previous line. I'd like to have the relevance of the reference verified by an editor who has access to the book (Google Books cuts off for me at page 226, and the reference is for 249-250). --ShadowRangerRIT (talk) 23:13, 5 November 2009 (UTC)