Talk:Pericles's Funeral Oration

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could we not get the speech itself here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.136.10.24 (talk • contribs)

well it's quite long, theres about 8 pages of it in Thucydides, (including some of his own commentary). There was a direct link to the extract on a website, rather than posting the whole speech, but that link appears to be broken at the moment. So if anyone could find an external link to use rather than typing/copying the WHOLE text into the entry, that would probably be better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.105.136.45 (talk • contribs)

Shouldn't its similarity to The Gettysburg Address be mentioned? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.147.248.255 (talk • contribs)

I pasted in the chunk straight from Gettysburg Address--Konstable 13:24, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

attribution

It was not James McPherson who showed the parallels between the Pericles' Funeral Oration and the Gettysburg Address. In the New York Review of Books McPherson reviews the book,"Lincoln at Gettysburg: The Words That Remade America" by Garry Wills. It is Wills who makes the parallels. I am new to editing Wikipedia, and– unsure of the proper way of doing it, but it should be done. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bonafidegenius (talk • contribs) 01:37, 7 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Well, you can just jump in and change it, nothing more to it :-) I put this in, but I actually don't know anything about this - I copied most of the paragraph about Gettysburg from the Gettysburg Address article.--Konstable 22:54, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've made the change for you.--Konstable 22:57, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New edits

I've started work on beefing this articles up. I have given it sections to rationalize the content and will start going through them. Additionally, since there is a wikisource link, I don't think we need citations that link to Perseus.com. Any objections to removing these?Jim 21:34, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Um, I'm pretty sure the translation at Wikisource is a copyvio, so I don't think we should even link to it. --Akhilleus (talk) 21:38, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good point, Warner's translation is Copyright 1954. But I think a better option than the rather clumsy Perseus links is personal translations, which I could do and donate to Wikisource. Or we could go with the Crawley translation, which is perfectly useable in respect of copyright, since it was published in 1874. Jim 22:37, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Repeated Quote

"The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here"; Lincoln, like Pericles, exhorts the survivors to emulate the deeds of the dead, "It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the great task remaining before us"; and finally, Lincoln, like Pericles, contrasts the efficacy of words and deeds, "The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract...The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here." How can this be rewritten to avoid using this quote twice? Jesterjester (talk) 23:15, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the repeated quote. I'm not sure why I didn't do it myself a year ago. Jesterjester (talk) 02:26, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ibid note

I've removed the "ibids are bad" notice, since there seems little point in chiding the reader for something the wikimedia software does itself.Mephistopheles (talk) 14:02, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]