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Eenie Meenie

It is a duet and both artist have lead credits but it is NOT a single from Bieber's album. You could not even buy the song on iTunes without buying the album, it is soley an album track for Bieber, but Kingston's lead single. This has been discussed several times and we have come to this conclusion. There is no such thing as both artists having the same single, one has to be considered the featured guest. Also the song is distributed through Kingston's Beluga/Epic not Bieber's Island. For example, the same thing exists with Nelly and Kelly Rowland's "Dilemma", and although on Rowland's album it is only a single from Nelly's and was distributed by his label. Candyo32 03:29, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh. But what about songs like "The Boy Is Mine" and "Tell Him", "All of You"? Besides, the single cover for "Dilemma" says "featuring Kelly Rowland [from Destiny's Child]", and Billboard credits it as a feature, as does The Official Charts Company and the Irish Recorded Music Association. However, this is not the case for "Eenie Meenie". You see what I'm trying to say? Yvesnimmo (talk) 13:35, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
But still two labels cannot release a single, only one can. And this has to be the cases also for "The Boy Is Mine" and other singles mentioned. Candyo32 20:01, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I totally get that. What I'm trying to say is that I think it should be under the regular singles section, and not the featured because it is not a feature; multiple artists can be the main artist of a single. Another example: the song "Swagga Like Us" by Jay-Z and T.I. featuring Kanye West and Lil Wayne. Yvesnimmo (talk) 22:56, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I understand from that perspective too. But using "Swagga Like Us" as an example it was soley a single from Paper Trail. It's hard to bring up other articles because of WP:OTHERSTUFF, so I don't know about using too many comparisons. Candyo32 00:39, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Also in the in the infobox, for the first artist, it should be for example "Ludacris chronology" as opposed to "Ludacris singles chronology", because it is not his single, it is Justin Bieber's. Candyo32 04:32, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wait... then what about the featured articles "4 Minutes", "Déjà Vu", and "Say Say Say", among others? Those are wrong then? :S Yvesnimmo (talk) 11:38, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know what's wrong with those articles, thats WP:OTHERSTUFF. I've just been told this is how the infobox needs to be displayed in GA reviews. Candyo32 15:56, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects are your friends

My latest update to {{singlechart}} didn't include some of your latest changes. There's no need to pipe everything when perfectly good redirects exist. Wikipedia:Redirect#Do not "fix" links to redirects that are not broken applies.—Kww(talk) 18:55, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, okay. Thank you so much! Yvesnimmo (talk) 22:58, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Precession vs. procession

Hi Yvesnimmo, hopefully you understood the edit summary left by another user in reinstating the change they made regarding the difference between precession and procession, but if not I have left a brief note on the article's talk page which you may find informative. Thanks. GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 17:34, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

=/

Piss off Nowyouseemetalk2me 15:54, 20 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your feedback, and please let me know if there are any other concerns that need to be addressed! --Another Believer (Talk) 16:02, 20 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bruno Mars

I removed it because in my book, it's redundant and irrelevant. I don't ever use the format field when creating or revamping a discography. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 22:59, 22 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Like I said, I don't like using it. It makes tables to large in areas where it doesn't need to be. So basically I highly dislike the use of the format field in discographies. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 20:45, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Umm I think I saw it on a discussion with EPs that if an EP is less than 5 songs, it may chart on the singles chart. Like in the US, it may chart on the Hot Singles Sales chart. In the UK however, it is just listed in with the UK Singles Chart. When I first saw that it had charted there, I, too, was pretty confused, but then I remembered the discussion. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (contributions) • (let's chat) 14:35, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

KEsha

Please be careful when changing content. You recently moved the notes section and added My First Kiss peak in Germany. Both edits have been reverted. The Notes were moved per FL comment and according to this link My First Kiss has not charted. Thank You :) - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 18:48, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I didn't know about the Notes part, sorry! As for "My First Kiss" ft. Ke$ha charting in Germany: well it's only debuted on the charts this week at #38 (sources here: [1], [2]) and a search for "My First Kiss" on charts.de shows that it has charted, but not within the top five (a.k.a. "premium members content"). It's probably gonna be on musicline.de sometime soon, but I'll leave it out for now, since there are no legit sources (yet!). Thanks so much for letting me know! :) Yvesnimmo (talk) 19:15, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You have talkback on my page. Im not aware if your "watching" my page for a reply or not so i thought id let you know :) - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 07:19, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of songs in Glee

Hey! I don't know whether you've seen, but Glee (season 1) passed FL :D Over on the Good Topic talkpage, Ucucha has suggested that we should try and include the season's musical articles as well as episodes in a GT nom, which would entail pushing the five album/EP articles and the concert tour up to GA, and the song list (which is probably about ready for splitting into separate season 1 and 2 lists) to FL. With the latter in mind, I've found that List of songs in Guitar Hero and its sequels are about the only comparable existing FLs. I think over time, the Glee song list has grown more elaborate and possibly less functional, and that simplifying and modelling it a little more after the Guitar Hero example might be beneficial. Particularly I think that making it sortable would be a good way to go. As a major contributor to the article, I wanted to consult you before making any changes, and to see what we can come up with. I'm playing about with it a bit in a sandbox so you can see roughly what I'm thinking, and I'm eager to hear your thoughts :D Frickative 18:01, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there! That sounds perfect! I just saw the sandbox page you started, and it looks amazing! Must have taken so much time, so props to you! And yes, I would very much be interested in promoting those articles to (at least) GA. Sorry I haven't responded about Glee: The Music, Volume 1; I got busy with some other things. Alright, now we have something to work towards! I will definitely contribute, and love the idea to split the song list into seasons, and then just make the original article a disambiguation page. Go ahead! :D Yvesnimmo (talk) 07:29, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2010 MTV Video Music Awards

Who are you to decide what's a reliable source or not. I stated my legitimate source so therefore you have no right to take it down. In no way are you above me so you have no right to assume so. Thank You. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Teairra989 (talkcontribs) 19:57, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

September 2010

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on 2010 MTV Video Music Awards. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If the edit warring continues, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 20:01, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Katy perry teenage dream cover

well, i am not blind... i bought the deluxe edition of the album, and that is the one without the title. please go to google and look for the cd on the hmv group. see the deluxe cover and the standard cover, thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Salgado96 (talkcontribs) 15:18, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

To sort the issue once and for all I've brough the discussion up here. Please not that unless there is a general consensus and agreement that the inclusion of two covers is correct only one cover should remain at the article. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 14:39, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Britney Glee "Me Against The Music Source

http://www.bscreview.com/2010/08/britney-spears-glee-pics/ - Spears and "Brittany" performing "Me Against The Music" - source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.102.199.46 (talk) 22:24, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

RE:Auto-Tune

Looks like you may be right according to the Wiki article. However a proper noun is a noun representing unique entities (such as London, Jupiter, or Toyota). But auto-tune is generic and is not a specific type of auto-tune technology or instrument. Also auto-tuned is a verb, and verbs are capitalized. Auto-Tuned? Candyo32 20:17, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Katy

Ok, but this single has already the single cover, see here and will relase betimes. And for this, has many source that. Vitor Mazuco Msg 00:21, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. The time that say the true. And betimes means ready, soon, etc. Vitor Mazuco Msg 00:29, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but my english is not so good, but i will to Canadá and improve it. I intend live here one day and know the Avril Lavigne (is my dream). In Brazil she is only success since 2002 until now. Returning the subject, the article's Katy Perry in wiki-pt has many sources that confirms the notice is true, and not speculation. I know that here has rigid rules. But that article is good. Vitor Mazuco Msg 17:56, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I work at Tommy2.net and have access to password protected press sites such as Sony, and they updated their Glee release list today with "...Baby One More Time," "I'm A Slave 4 U," "Me Against The Music," "Stronger," "The Only Exception," and "Toxic." How can i cite a reference when it's not a public website? I have included a screenshot of the actual page mentioned to support my information with blank sides cropped off so photobucket doesn't resize the image too much. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/Kevin87/gleesonyreleases.jpg Kevin87 (talk) 20:05, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm interesting. Since, there is no way one can get to that site, I'm afraid we cannot include it in the article for now. Wikipedia has a policy called Verifiability, not truth, and even if it is true, which it certainly seems to be, it is not verifiable. Yvesnimmo (talk) 20:14, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

BEP

No prob.

Sure TBSfan1223 (talk) 00:28, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, I just started writing a draft to replace the old copyvio version last night and this morning, I saw you had already finished a new article on him. If you add 200 more letters, it can be DYK-ready. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 12:55, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Two hundred letters or two hundred words? I'll see what I can add. :) Yvesnimmo (talk) 12:58, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Letters. It's ready now, and I have put it up for DYK at Template_talk:Did_you_know#Chord_Overstreet. If everything checks out, it'll be on the main page in about a week. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 02:11, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of Songs in Glee (season 2)

I keep trying to add "Lucky," by Jason Mraz and Colbie Caillat to the list of songs for glee season 2, but you keep taking it down. it has been confirmed through source number 35 on that same page (link: http://www.tvguide.com/News/Glee-Season-2-1023350.aspx) The TV Guide article states: "When the brass section kicks in to the umpteeth take of "River Deep, Mountain High," the actors watching the performance on the monitors go wild as if its the first time they're seeing it. Michele bops her head along, mouthing the lyrics and cheering. ''Later, after Dianna Agron, who plays Quinn, and new cast member Chord Overstreet, who plays new student Sam, perform Colbie Caillat and Jason Mraz's "Lucky," Rivera sighs dreamily. 'That was so sweet!'" It clearly states what song is being sung and by whom. It is definitely in episode 4 because it is being shot at the same time as "River Deep, Mountain High." If there is a reason why this cannot be added, please clarify it for me. If not, would you please re-add it to the list. Thanks! (I do not mean for any of this to sound nasty, so if it does, I apologize). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.228.31.39 (talk) 01:22, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rocky Horror Glee Show EP

Hey, I noticed that someone jumped the gun a bit by starting an empty Glee: The Music, The Rocky Horror Glee Show article. It got me thinking - I'm working on a draft of the episode article, and wondered whether we could combine efforts to include your userspace page on the EP as a soundtrack section. That way all the info would be available for development in the mainspace, and the EP could be split off into a separate article once there's enough coverage to make it independently notable? Frickative 17:06, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds great; Good idea! Let's do it! :D Yvesnimmo (talk) 17:13, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ace! I've got a few more sources to check through before I move it to the mainspace, but I've added the soundtrack in now :D Frickative 18:22, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Opinion request

Could you give your opinon here? Thanks in advance. Candyo32 01:33, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly! :) Yvesnimmo (talk) 01:36, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Hey.. I know I've been pretty mean to you in the past and I just wanted to apologize to you for that - I can be a bit hot headed at times.. so I'm sorry for being mean to you. I hope you can look past it. :) Nowyouseemetalk2me 03:03, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Of course; I accept your apology! I know people get angry sometimes, and I've already forgiven you haha. Of course we'll look past it! =) Yvesnimmo (talk) 03:06, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Grilled Cheesus

RlevseTalk 18:05, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Summaries

Who has two thumbs and doesn't care about edit summaries? THIS GUY!!! Quit spamming my talk page kthx. --TheTruthiness (talk) 05:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I replied on my talk page. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 17:40, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats

The Music Barnstar
I award you this for your great work on Nicki Minaj discography cleaning it up (except adding the airplay Pop Songs chart) lol! Maybe sometimes soon we can collaborate on making the article a FL, if interested. Congratulations, you deserve it! Candyo32 21:19, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ka:თარგი:მუსიკის ვიკიორდენი

Beyonce Discography

Hi, thanks a lot. I'm happy you like my work. Henceforth, i will use the edit summary box. Don't worry, i haven't added anything contributing to vandalism. On the contrary, i am improving it. I have made the whole (practically the whole as i am still left with 4 more references) verificable. Just compare how it was before i start to work on it. Thanks a lot for your appreciation. Jivesh boodhun (talk) 08:24, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks for your guidance. Jivesh boodhun (talk) 05:36, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Succession boxes

Hi. I see you are against the removal of succession boxes from articles for songs and albums that hit #1 on music charts. There is a discussion ongoing at WT:CHARTS and, while the general opinion seems to be against them and consensus is growing in that direction, it is valuable to have opinions from all sides. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 10:28, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Re: October 2010

Arg! I'm so frustrated with myself. I usually ALWAYS forget about that. I'll be sure to remember before I save anything. ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT (Talk) 21:33, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Loud

No she wrote that music. She wrote all the song "Cheers", but there is a sample parts too that will remember the Avril Lavigne's songs. Vitor Mazuco Msg 23:22, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is a sample and wrote all that song. Vitor Mazuco Msg 23:27, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Writting is a collaboration, you're not understanding about it. Vitor Mazuco Msg 23:34, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Avril is a songwriters than album. Vitor Mazuco Msg 23:35, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Chord Overstreet

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Ummmm...

Good with trying to get people to leave an edit summary on everything that is done on here. I've learned that it's not going to happen. Plus the fact you seemingly wasted your time telling me this, someone whose been editing long enough, seemed a bit condescending. No offense. Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 08:55, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Some "minor" edits I generally don't add a summary. I add summaries for larger edits. For that specific edit, all I did was just turned the ref list into two columns.Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 12:40, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
See what? Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 18:55, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Were looking at the references section of Just the Way You Are (Bruno Mars song)? That's what I changed to make it into two columns. Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 19:57, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I guess something is messed up on your end. I can see it fine. Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 20:32, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I use Firefox and that's why I'm able to see it. Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 23:41, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Help

I am trying to add the deluxe edition of the Australian release of Doo-Wops & Hooligans to the album page (date: October 15, 2010; label: Warner Music), but it's messing up for some reason. This is what I'm trying to accomplish:

{|class="wikitable"
|-
! Region
! Date
! [[Record label|Label(s)]]
! Formats
! Edition
|-
|France<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.amazon.fr/Doo-Wops-Hooligans/dp/B00443PTL4/|title=Doo-Wops & Hooligans|language=French|publisher=[[Amazon.com|Amazon.fr]]|accessdate=September 29, 2010}}</ref>
|rowspan="2"|October 4, 2010
|[[Warner Music Group|Warner Music]]
|rowspan="2"|[[Music download|Digital download]]
|Standard
|-
|United States<ref name="AmazonUS" /><ref name="AmazonDeluxe" />
|[[Atlantic Records|Atlantic]], [[Elektra Records|Elektra]]
|Standard, Deluxe
|-
|Austria<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.amazon.de/Tbd-Bruno-Mars/dp/B003ZJ0ZX0/|title=Tbd|language=German|publisher=[[Amazon.com|Amazon.at]]|accessdate=September 29, 2010}}</ref>
|rowspan="5"|October 5, 2010
|rowspan="4"|Warner Music
|rowspan="3"|[[Compact Disc|CD]]
|rowspan="3"|Standard
|-
|Canada<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.amazon.ca/Doo-Wops-Hooligans-Bruno-Mars/dp/B003ZJ0ZX0/|title=Doo - Wops & Hooligans: Bruno Mars|publisher=[[Amazon.com|Amazon.ca]]|accessdate=September 29, 2010}}</ref>
|-
|Germany<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.amazon.de/Tbd-Bruno-Mars/dp/B003ZJ0ZX0/|title=Tbd|language=German|publisher=[[Amazon.com|Amazon.de]]|accessdate=September 29, 2010}}</ref>
|-
|Mexico<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://itunes.apple.com/mx/album/doo-wops-hooligans/id394282240|title=Doo-Wops & Hooligans|publisher=[[iTunes Store]] México|language=Spanish|accessdate=October 5, 2010}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|url=http://itunes.apple.com/mx/album/doo-wops-hooligans-deluxe/id394571295|title=Doo-Wops & Hooligans (Deluxe Version)|publisher=[[iTunes Store]] México|language=Spanish|accessdate=October 5, 2010}}</ref>
|Digital download
|Standard, Deluxe
|-
|United States<ref name="Unveils"/><ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.target.com/Doo-wops-Hooligans-DVD-Bonus-Tracks/dp/B0042LRTBG/|title=Doo-wops & Hooligans (CD/DVD)(Bonus Tracks) - Only at Target|publisher=[[Target Corporation]]|accessdate=October 3, 2010}}</ref>
|Atlantic, Elektra
|rowspan="3"|CD
|Standard, Deluxe
|-
|New Zealand<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.warnermusic.co.nz/news/bruno-mars-unveils-album|title=BRUNO MARS UNVEILS EAGERLY AWAITED DEBUT ALBUM “DOO–WOPS & HOOLIGANS”|publisher=[[Warner Music Group|Warner Music]] New Zealand|accessdate=September 14, 2010}}</ref>
|October 11, 2010
|rowspan="3"|Warner Music
|rowspan="2"|Standard
|-
|rowspan="2"|Australia<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.sanity.com.au/products/2190666/Doo_Wops_And_Hooligans|title=Doo Wops And Hooligans|publisher=[[Sanity (music store)|Sanity]]|accessdate=September 29, 2010}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|url=http://itunes.apple.com/au/preorder/doo-wops-hooligans-deluxe/id396985582|title=Doo-Wops & Hooligans (Deluxe Version)|publisher=[[iTunes Store]] Australia|accessdate=October 9, 2010}}</ref>
|rowspan="2"|October 15, 2010
|-
|Digital download
|Deluxe
|-
|United Kingdom<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.amazon.co.uk/Doo-Wops-Hooligans-Bruno-Mars/dp/B003ZJ0ZX0/|title=Doo Wops & Hooligans|publisher=[[Amazon.com|Amazon.co.uk]]|accessdate=October 3, 2010}}</ref>
|January 24, 2011
|Elektra
|CD
|Standard
|}

and it comes out as:

Region Date Label(s) Formats Edition
France[1] October 4, 2010 Warner Music Digital download Standard
United States[2][3] Atlantic, Elektra Standard, Deluxe
Austria[4] October 5, 2010 Warner Music CD Standard
Canada[5]
Germany[6]
Mexico[7][8] Digital download Standard, Deluxe
United States[9][10] Atlantic, Elektra CD Standard, Deluxe
New Zealand[11] October 11, 2010 Warner Music Standard
Australia[12][13] October 15, 2010
Digital download Deluxe
United Kingdom[14] January 24, 2011 Elektra CD Standard

The "Australia" and "October 15, 2010" cells are not coming out as a rowspan of 2. Am I doing something wrong here? Articles like I Am... Sasha Fierce and The Fame Monster have this done correctly, and I'm not sure why it's not working here. Thanks in advance! Yves (talk) 02:50, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, I can't seem to get it to work either. I've been working on it for like 15 minutes and it's doing the exact same thing to me as it is to you. I even thought maybe another rowspan was off, but I can't seem to figure it out. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (contributions) • (let's chat) 03:01, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
So frustrating. I don't know where I'm going wrong here. I know it's not anything to do with the references, because I even tried removing all of them (I cringed whilst doing so) and the same thing showed up in the preview. And it doesn't work when I try adding the Canadian deluxe edition, either. Yves (talk) 03:21, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Very strange. I don't think I've ever come across a problem like this before. Maybe try retyping it all over again? Or have you tried that already? EnDaLeCoMpLeX (contributions) • (let's chat) 03:28, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, trying out something simpler. Only looking at New Zealand downward, with no rowspans:
{|class="wikitable"
|-
! Region
! Date
! [[Record label|Label(s)]]
! Formats
! Edition
|-
|New Zealand<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.warnermusic.co.nz/news/bruno-mars-unveils-album|title=BRUNO MARS UNVEILS EAGERLY AWAITED DEBUT ALBUM “DOO–WOPS & HOOLIGANS”|publisher=[[Warner Music Group|Warner Music]] New Zealand|accessdate=September 14, 2010}}</ref>
|October 11, 2010
|Warner Music
|CD
|Standard
|-
|Australia<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.sanity.com.au/products/2190666/Doo_Wops_And_Hooligans|title=Doo Wops And Hooligans|publisher=[[Sanity (music store)|Sanity]]|accessdate=September 29, 2010}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|url=http://itunes.apple.com/au/preorder/doo-wops-hooligans-deluxe/id396985582|title=Doo-Wops & Hooligans (Deluxe Version)|publisher=[[iTunes Store]] Australia|accessdate=October 9, 2010}}</ref>
|October 15, 2010
|Warner Music
|CD
|Standard
|-
|Australia
|October 15, 2010
|Warner Music
|Digital download
|Deluxe
|-
|United Kingdom<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.amazon.co.uk/Doo-Wops-Hooligans-Bruno-Mars/dp/B003ZJ0ZX0/|title=Doo Wops & Hooligans|publisher=[[Amazon.com|Amazon.co.uk]]|accessdate=October 3, 2010}}</ref>
|January 24, 2011
|Elektra
|CD
|Standard
|}

comes out fine as:

Region Date Label(s) Formats Edition
New Zealand[15] October 11, 2010 Warner Music CD Standard
Australia[16][17] October 15, 2010 Warner Music CD Standard
Australia October 15, 2010 Warner Music Digital download Deluxe
United Kingdom[18] January 24, 2011 Elektra CD Standard

and when I merge a couple of cells, it comes out great as:

{|class="wikitable"
|-
! Region
! Date
! [[Record label|Label(s)]]
! Formats
! Edition
|-
|New Zealand<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.warnermusic.co.nz/news/bruno-mars-unveils-album|title=BRUNO MARS UNVEILS EAGERLY AWAITED DEBUT ALBUM “DOO–WOPS & HOOLIGANS”|publisher=[[Warner Music Group|Warner Music]] New Zealand|accessdate=September 14, 2010}}</ref>
|October 11, 2010
|rowspan="3"|Warner Music
|CD
|rowspan="2"|Standard
|-
|rowspan="2"|Australia<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.sanity.com.au/products/2190666/Doo_Wops_And_Hooligans|title=Doo Wops And Hooligans|publisher=[[Sanity (music store)|Sanity]]|accessdate=September 29, 2010}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|url=http://itunes.apple.com/au/preorder/doo-wops-hooligans-deluxe/id396985582|title=Doo-Wops & Hooligans (Deluxe Version)|publisher=[[iTunes Store]] Australia|accessdate=October 9, 2010}}</ref>
|rowspan="2"|October 15, 2010
|CD
|-
|Digital download
|Deluxe
|-
|United Kingdom<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.amazon.co.uk/Doo-Wops-Hooligans-Bruno-Mars/dp/B003ZJ0ZX0/|title=Doo Wops & Hooligans|publisher=[[Amazon.com|Amazon.co.uk]]|accessdate=October 3, 2010}}</ref>
|January 24, 2011
|Elektra
|CD
|Standard
|}
Region Date Label(s) Formats Edition
New Zealand[19] October 11, 2010 Warner Music CD Standard
Australia[20][21] October 15, 2010 CD
Digital download Deluxe
United Kingdom[22] January 24, 2011 Elektra CD Standard

The problem is, though, when I try to merge the New Zealand and Australia "CD" cells:

{|class="wikitable"
|-
! Region
! Date
! [[Record label|Label(s)]]
! Formats
! Edition
|-
|New Zealand<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.warnermusic.co.nz/news/bruno-mars-unveils-album|title=BRUNO MARS UNVEILS EAGERLY AWAITED DEBUT ALBUM “DOO–WOPS & HOOLIGANS”|publisher=[[Warner Music Group|Warner Music]] New Zealand|accessdate=September 14, 2010}}</ref>
|October 11, 2010
|rowspan="3"|Warner Music
|rowspan="2"|CD
|rowspan="2"|Standard
|-
|rowspan="2"|Australia<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.sanity.com.au/products/2190666/Doo_Wops_And_Hooligans|title=Doo Wops And Hooligans|publisher=[[Sanity (music store)|Sanity]]|accessdate=September 29, 2010}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|url=http://itunes.apple.com/au/preorder/doo-wops-hooligans-deluxe/id396985582|title=Doo-Wops & Hooligans (Deluxe Version)|publisher=[[iTunes Store]] Australia|accessdate=October 9, 2010}}</ref>
|rowspan="2"|October 15, 2010
|-
|Digital download
|Deluxe
|-
|United Kingdom<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.amazon.co.uk/Doo-Wops-Hooligans-Bruno-Mars/dp/B003ZJ0ZX0/|title=Doo Wops & Hooligans|publisher=[[Amazon.com|Amazon.co.uk]]|accessdate=October 3, 2010}}</ref>
|January 24, 2011
|Elektra
|CD
|Standard
|}

And I get:

Region Date Label(s) Formats Edition
New Zealand[23] October 11, 2010 Warner Music CD Standard
Australia[24][25] October 15, 2010
Digital download Deluxe
United Kingdom[26] January 24, 2011 Elektra CD Standard

Totally not understanding why this is being colloquially stupid. Yves (talk) 03:51, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Me neither. I located the issue, as it works fine with
...
|New Zealand<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.warnermusic.co.nz/news/bruno-mars-unveils-album|title=BRUNO MARS UNVEILS EAGERLY AWAITED DEBUT ALBUM “DOO–WOPS & HOOLIGANS”|publisher=[[Warner Music Group|Warner Music]] New Zealand|accessdate=September 14, 2010}}</ref>
|October 11, 2010
|rowspan="3"|Warner Music
|rowspan="2"|Standard
|-
|Australia<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.warnermusic.co.nz/news/bruno-mars-unveils-album|title=BRUNO MARS UNVEILS EAGERLY AWAITED DEBUT ALBUM “DOO–WOPS & HOOLIGANS”|publisher=[[Warner Music Group|Warner Music]] New Zealand|accessdate=September 14, 2010}}</ref>
|rowspan="2"|October 15, 2010
|-
|Australia<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.warnermusic.co.nz/news/bruno-mars-unveils-album|title=BRUNO MARS UNVEILS EAGERLY AWAITED DEBUT ALBUM “DOO–WOPS & HOOLIGANS”|publisher=[[Warner Music Group|Warner Music]] New Zealand|accessdate=September 14, 2010}}</ref>
|foo
|bar
|}
so the issue is the colspan 2 for the country name. But idk how to fix it. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 04:01, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The issue seems to be using colspan to merge cells for the last column you are working with ("Format" for me in the example above). Yves (talk) 04:11, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Archiving

Have you considered archiving your talk page? It's 112 KB long and has 79 topics. The talk page guidelines suggest archiving after a talk page has become larger than 50 KB, or has more than 10 main sections. Not doing so can make the page difficult to navigate and also make it difficult for users with slow Internet connections to view the page. How to archive is detailed on the archive page. Cheers! GorillaWarfare talk 05:28, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I have lol. I've just never done it before, and didn't really wanna learn how as it's never been an issue for me. Yves (talk) 05:46, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I can do it for you, if you like; I can make it 'auto-archive' things that are older than 'x' days. If you want that, just reply below, let me know how many days; 30? perhaps. Whatever you like.  Chzz  ►  06:39, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Haha well sure, if you don't mind! That's very generous of you. :) And maybe not thirty; how about sixty? Question: what if, hypothetically speaking, during a sixty-day period, there are no or only a few discussions? Would it still be archived even if there are only a few sections? Yves (talk) 06:47, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I've set up this page for auto-archiving, as discussed.
Normally, I prefer to explain how to do stuff, but in the case of archive set-up, it's easier to just do it for you. The voodoo to make it work is here; the bot should come along within about a day and kick things off. Note the archive box at the top which, currently, will say "no archives yet (create)" - don't create anything, just let the bot do its thing.
It's set to 60 days (60d), you might want to change that. Note that a) it won't archive very small threads or things with no sigs in (ie no date) - you can cut those yourself and paste 'em into the archive page if you want.
And to answer your question: it is possible to specify a minimum number of threads, so it won't archive if there are less; I've set that to | minthreadsleft = 4 for now.
So - that's about it; no action required, just let the bot do its thing, and - if I've done it correctly - all should be well. If it goes wrong, of course, give me a shout. Cheers!  Chzz  ►  06:58, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Chzz! Appreciate it! :) Yves (talk) 07:00, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm really sorry, I'd done it wrong; I checked back, wondered why it didn't work, and noticed I missed out a /.

So, please give it another 24 hours to start. Again, sorry.  Chzz  ►  05:52, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Haha. That's quite alright! :) Yves (talk) 05:54, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at the bot, I think it should get to you around 20:30 UTC, so, about 10 hours from now; I'll check back of course.  Chzz  ►  11:12, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yay, seems to be fine. I'll stop watching, so give me a shout if you ever have problems with it.  Chzz  ►  22:50, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Beyonce's Fourth Studio album

Don't you think that the time has come to create a page for Beyonce's fourth upcoming studio album? So many artist have one for their albums due 2011 such as Rihanna (Loud), Kelly Rowland (Kelly Rowland), Kanye West (Dark Twisted Mind), Young Jeezy............ Jivesh boodhun (talk) 05:32, 11 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Jivesh boodhun (talk) 05:44, 11 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Does it have a name yet? Beware of WP:HAMMER.  Chzz  ►  11:15, 12 October 2010 (UTC) (Just a comment, in passing)[reply]

Chronology

"In a studio album article, the chain (for most artists) should include only other studio albums, excluding live albums and compilations; these other types can also have their own separate chains. For some artists it may be more appropriate to include all album types in one chain, but care must be taken to maintain the integrity of chains, so that when album "A" points to "B" as the next album, "B" points back to "A" as the last (previous) album."

I really don't care about the chronology, but this change is only gonna cause edit wars and more discussions between other users. Plus, artists like Madonna and Michael Jackson have only one chronology. Xwomanizerx (talk) 21:57, 11 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

But they don't. Michael Jackson's greatest hits / remix albums have their own separate chronology (Number Ones, The Ultimate Collection, The Essential Michael Jackson, etc.) as do Madonna's EPs (Remixed Prayers, The Holiday Collection, etc.). It makes more sense to have different chronologies for different album types. Yves (talk) 22:10, 11 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

California Dreams Tour

Your edits to the California Dreams Tour have been reverted and quite frankly this all seems quite redundant if you think about it. A country is defined as a territory of an independent nation. This list you are referencing refers to a sovereign state. A sovereign state is a grouping of nations or territories that operate under one unified government. In the case of the United Kingdom, it is the countries of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland that create the United Kingdom. I am not saying that you are wrong but to state that "England is not a country, I know what it is" is pretty absent-minded. If you would like, I do not mind creating a entry on the talk page so that other editors can weigh in on this matter. Itsbydesign (talk) 08:19, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

While it isn't fan-made...

Well , just asking, while it isn't fan-made (Perry's official twitter), it shouldn't be a reliable source? Pedro João [talk] 16:06, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly, I, think Perry wouldn't lie about that. But agree! Capitol probably will add that information really soon in Katy's official site. Thanks for all, Pedro João [talk] 17:06, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Saw that you were unsure about your report of User:AtomicMarcusKitten. In general, only pure vandals should be reported to AIV. This user seems to do quite a bit of good work, but definitely has some interaction issues. Consider making a report at WP:AN/I. Regards, Jujutacular talk 15:32, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, just saw another admin has blocked the user - we'll see if their behavior improves after the block. Jujutacular talk 15:33, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Are we removing other charted songs from the new discographies? ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT (Talk) 00:14, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Per WT:DISCOGSTYLE consensus, no. Yves (talk) 00:15, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fixing Loud Album Refs

I'm not use to the citation templates way of referencing but theres no rule saying you can't do it the way I did. I fixed all the refs that most of the contributors were to lazy to do. ozurbanmusic (talk) 00:22, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Stop Editing the T-Pain templete

The songs you are "fixing" are legit singles that have charted or are offcial singles If you're going to "fix" the templete then fix the songs, rather than deleting them.

NO

I'm aware that. Please stop reverting it back so i can fix the promotional singles. There is a page for both songs that aren't redirected pages.

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  2. ^ Cite error: The named reference AmazonUS was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  3. ^ Cite error: The named reference AmazonDeluxe was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
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