Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Camilla Corona SDO

Camilla Corona SDO

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Tried to merge and redirect to Solar Dynamics Observatory, but it was rejected by the author. Ultimately this is a non-notable thing that doesn't have reliable sources to establish notability via WP:GNG. It's a cute little article that belongs on sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov but is not encyclopedic or noteworthy to non-SDO folks. tedder (talk) 14:34, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Nothing on gnews, gbooks, gscholar and only social media on google itself. Does not seem to meet any notability guidelines. Merge will just introduce unsourced information the SDO article. Yoenit (talk) 14:55, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete There is nothing in reliable sources, thus mon-notable. Armbrust ^Talk _Contribs 11:54, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Camilla Corona SDO is still a new EPO (Education and Public Outreach) tool. It is noteworthy to non-SDO folks since we use Camilla as a tool to get young adults attention, use her when we got into class rooms and during science fair and space exhibits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Romeoch (talk • contribs) 01:59, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Do Not Delete - two third party sources have been added. One on NASA.gov and one on Thinkgeek.com. More to come. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Romeoch (talk • contribs) 23:09, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- While I applaud your efforts those sources are not enough to support the article. Both mention Camilla once and you can only use them to support the very first sentence (that camilla is the official mascot and a chicken). This is not significant coverage. Also, the NASA source is not third party, SDO is part of NASA. Thinkgeek.com is a blog and probably does not meet the criteria for a reliable source, but even if it does you are gonna need more than that single mention to meet the notability criteria. Yoenit (talk) 08:08, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Do Not Delete - this character although fictional is a valuable science outreach in the NASA branch. Deserves to be on Wikipedia even though it might not be viewed by some as important entry. It's probably one of the most ingenious tools created recently by NASA to help gather interest in science among young generation and what's even more important - it works. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.11.61.66 (talk) 20:37, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science-related deletion discussions. -- tedder (talk) 21:13, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Advertising-related deletion discussions. -- tedder (talk) 21:13, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Non notable. Why not start a Facebook page for her? Xxanthippe (talk) 21:51, 19 October 2010 (UTC).[reply]
- There is already a Facebook page. Wiki doesn't appear to be social media so one doesn't exchange the other. People who want to know who Camilla Corona SDO is, should have a way of finding information. You cannot determine what is notable or not since every time one tries to learn something about somebody/something, it becomes notable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Romeoch (talk • contribs) 22:38, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A Facebook page suffices then. Xxanthippe (talk) 00:08, 20 October 2010 (UTC).[reply]

- - What's your rationale? Not everyone is on Facebook. So how can others learn about this? Sports Mascots are ok, why not Science Mission Mascots? Rationales please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Romeoch (talk • contribs) 00:49, 20 October 2010 (UTC) This template must be substituted.[reply]
Do Not Delete If Wiki allows sport mascots to have their own articles, then it should allow science mission mascots too. Sports mascots are mostly for advertising/financial gain purposes. This NASA science mascot is actively used for Education and Public Outreach. Recent example; Camilla visited World Space Week in Nigeria in early October 2010 and participated in class room activities at an orphan kids school. There is no financial gain, but rather educational awareness is being promoted and sought. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Romeoch (talk • contribs) 22:46, 19 October 2010 (UTC) This template must be substituted.[reply]
Do Not DeleteCamilla Corona is not just some mascot to be deleted. She is a real rubber chicken who has inspired thousands to learn more about America's Space Program. While it started with the Solar Dynamics Observatory, she now shares information about the people of NASA besides other NASA programs. Camilla has a personality. And because she is a rubber chicken who has a personality (and her own fashion designer who lives in Missouri), people find her engaging and fun and thus tune in to see what more she has to share and what they can learn about space (even if they weren't interested in space before). Yes, Camilla has a Facebook account and a Twitter account. But, since both platforms are for social media and an instant exchange in the here and now there lacks a concise place online to go and learn all about Camilla. Recently Camilla visited the NASA Johnson Space Center in Houston, Texas for astrochick training as her dream is to fly in space. While at JSC for 3 weeks she not only met with many astronauts, had training in the simulators, and flew on the infamous vomit comet (sharing about the work that is done at JSC and highlighting the people and the jobs to inspire others to reach for their dreams). The highlight of her visit from the perspective of how much can a rubber chicken get away with was when The Boeing Company in Houston, TX who hadn't heard of Camilla embraced her and her educational outreach mission. They invited her to meet their engineers, managers, and vice-presidents of both the space station program and the new commercial spacecraft vehicle. Camilla was invited to sit in the spacecraft mockup at Boeing, something only astronauts had done for the first time the week before. Boeing even took the time to write an internal news story (which is posted here: http://camilla-corona-sdo.blogspot.com/2010/10/camilla-in-news-boeing-article.html) about her because she made such an impact. The point is - Camilla is changing how we share and learn and she makes it FUN! It doesn't matter if your 8, 18, 38, or 68 - everyone who meets Camilla is excited about how she makes a difference in the world educating people about the importance of space in our lives. Why have a Wiki page? That answer is simple. So people can find her and learn more about her. The Boeing photographer who was assigned to take pictures of Camilla and the executives had never heard about her and couldn't easily find information about her. The photographer simply wanted to know who Camilla was. This wiki page has started this off perfect! Yes, it needs to grow, and it will as Camilla's outreach efforts grow. Not only does Camilla teach others about space exploration, she is teaching us how to successfully use social media for education, how to hand off a rubber chicken from NASA center to NASA center with teamwork and dedication from employees who do this on their own time to share their passion with her followers. Camilla will also teach us about the people who follow her and why they follow thus closing the circle and changing the dynamic of the interactions that take place on Facebook, Twitter, and in real life (as Camilla does make many appearances in public and was recently (or maybe still is) in Nigeria for World Space Week.) So...with all of that I hope that the people at Wiki have the foresight to see what a game-changer Camilla is for NASA and for social media and to document this amazing capability and accomplishment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.195.159.21 (talk) 01:09, 20 October 2010 (UTC) This template must be substituted.[reply]

'Do Not Delete" As Wikipedia says "Ignore all Rules" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ignore_all_rules ; This article at a minimum maintains, if not improves, Wikipedia. Additional references have been listed. There will be more after NASA's STS-133 Space Shuttle launch, early November 2010. Camilla will be part of the event and media outlets will cover her participation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Romeoch (talk • contribs) 01:24, 20 October 2010 (UTC) This template must be substituted.[reply]

DO NOT DELETEI have met Camilla. The idea of her is an incredible education tool. I have personally seen her involve all ages, tots to teens to those not counting anymore. She teaches all education levels and is a great way to make new friends. If her Wiki goes away, it will be one less way for her to outreach and open our world to communication and space education. She is inspiring and a great asset to education. I am not connected to the space community and have learned a great deal from her. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Toniakay (talk • contribs) 02:04, 20 October 2010 (UTC) This template must be substituted.[reply]

Note essentially all the do not delete votes are from single-purpose accounts. Nergaal (talk) 05:06, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Correct, all the one from romeoch are mine (creator of the page) and added after doing more research on the topic. The others, as you can see by the IPs, are not from the creators. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 171.64.103.162 (talk) 14:04, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]