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Camilla Corona SDO

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Tried to merge and redirect to Solar Dynamics Observatory, but it was rejected by the author. Ultimately this is a non-notable thing that doesn't have reliable sources to establish notability via WP:GNG. It's a cute little article that belongs on sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov but is not encyclopedic or noteworthy to non-SDO folks. tedder (talk) 14:34, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Camilla Corona SDO is still a new EPO (Education and Public Outreach) tool. It is noteworthy to non-SDO folks since we use Camilla as a tool to get young adults attention, use her when we got into class rooms and during science fair and space exhibits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Romeoch (talk • contribs) 01:59, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Do Not Delete If Wiki allows sport mascots to have their own articles, then it should allow science mission mascots too. Sports mascots are mostly for advertising/financial gain purposes. This NASA science mascot is actively used for Education and Public Outreach. Recent example; Camilla visited World Space Week in Nigeria in early October 2010 and participated in class room activities at an orphan kids school. There is no financial gain, but rather educational awareness is being promoted and sought. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Romeoch (talk • contribs) 22:46, 19 October 2010 (UTC) This template must be substituted.[reply]


A Facebook page suffices then. Xxanthippe (talk) 00:08, 20 October 2010 (UTC).[reply]
  • Do Not DeleteCamilla Corona is not just some mascot to be deleted. She is a real rubber chicken who has inspired thousands to learn more about America's Space Program. While it started with the Solar Dynamics Observatory, she now shares information about the people of NASA besides other NASA programs. Camilla has a personality. And because she is a rubber chicken who has a personality (and her own fashion designer who lives in Missouri), people find her engaging and fun and thus tune in to see what more she has to share and what they can learn about space (even if they weren't interested in space before). Yes, Camilla has a Facebook account and a Twitter account. But, since both platforms are for social media and an instant exchange in the here and now there lacks a concise place online to go and learn all about Camilla. Recently Camilla visited the NASA Johnson Space Center in Houston, Texas for astrochick training as her dream is to fly in space. While at JSC for 3 weeks she not only met with many astronauts, had training in the simulators, and flew on the infamous vomit comet (sharing about the work that is done at JSC and highlighting the people and the jobs to inspire others to reach for their dreams). The highlight of her visit from the perspective of how much can a rubber chicken get away with was when The Boeing Company in Houston, TX who hadn't heard of Camilla embraced her and her educational outreach mission. They invited her to meet their engineers, managers, and vice-presidents of both the space station program and the new commercial spacecraft vehicle. Camilla was invited to sit in the spacecraft mockup at Boeing, something only astronauts had done for the first time the week before. Boeing even took the time to write an internal news story (which is posted here: http://camilla-corona-sdo.blogspot.com/2010/10/camilla-in-news-boeing-article.html) about her because she made such an impact. The point is - Camilla is changing how we share and learn and she makes it FUN! It doesn't matter if your 8, 18, 38, or 68 - everyone who meets Camilla is excited about how she makes a difference in the world educating people about the importance of space in our lives. Why have a Wiki page? That answer is simple. So people can find her and learn more about her. The Boeing photographer who was assigned to take pictures of Camilla and the executives had never heard about her and couldn't easily find information about her. The photographer simply wanted to know who Camilla was. This wiki page has started this off perfect! Yes, it needs to grow, and it will as Camilla's outreach efforts grow. Not only does Camilla teach others about space exploration, she is teaching us how to successfully use social media for education, how to hand off a rubber chicken from NASA center to NASA center with teamwork and dedication from employees who do this on their own time to share their passion with her followers. Camilla will also teach us about the people who follow her and why they follow thus closing the circle and changing the dynamic of the interactions that take place on Facebook, Twitter, and in real life (as Camilla does make many appearances in public and was recently (or maybe still is) in Nigeria for World Space Week.) So...with all of that I hope that the people at Wiki have the foresight to see what a game-changer Camilla is for NASA and for social media and to document this amazing capability and accomplishment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.195.159.21 (talk) 01:09, 20 October 2010 (UTC) This template must be substituted.[reply]


  • DO NOT DELETEI have met Camilla. The idea of her is an incredible education tool. I have personally seen her involve all ages, tots to teens to those not counting anymore. She teaches all education levels and is a great way to make new friends. If her Wiki goes away, it will be one less way for her to outreach and open our world to communication and space education. She is inspiring and a great asset to education. I am not connected to the space community and have learned a great deal from her. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Toniakay (talk • contribs) 02:04, 20 October 2010 (UTC) This template must be substituted.[reply]


  • Note essentially all the do not delete votes are from single-purpose accounts. Nergaal (talk) 05:06, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Correct, all the one from romeoch are mine (creator of the page) and added after doing more research on the topic. The others, as you can see by the IPs, are not from the creators. In order to make it easier, I moved all my comments next to each other. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 171.64.103.162 (talk) 14:04, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. This page would appear to be about astronauts who adopted a rubber chicken as a mascot. It would appear that rubber chickens may beat garden gnomes in the race to outer space, but I don't see the sources given here as the sort of reliable sources that would render this rubber chicken mascot an encyclopedia subject. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 15:27, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Article states, it is NASA's SDO (Solar Dynamics Observatory) mission mascot, adopted by members of the team to use it as an education and public outreach tool. The story line is for Camilla to travel to space to visit her friend, Little SDO (the spacecraft). Part of making this so attractive is that there is a real story line behind it. Several reliable sources (from NASA to Thinkgeek) have been listed and further sources are being put together. Again, if sport mascots can be listed, no reason why science mission mascots with educational tasks/duties can't be. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Romeoch (talk • contribs) 17:18, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Romeoch, I'd suggest reading WP:GNG thoroughly. Aside from "what about article X" being a poor argument, the reason some sports mascots qualify for their own article is because they have reliable and verifiable sources. That means coverage by independent sources, such as newspapers, books, and (best of all, though rarely for mascots) scholarly articles. Poor sources would be NASA and SDO's website (because SDO has a clear conflict of interest in wanting coverage of this), press releases, blogs (thinkgeek) and other self-published websites, and so on. Further, it's important to have a depth of coverage as WP:GNG says. So a mention on a blog doesn't qualify, even if it was more reliable than a blog- that's the equivalent of a band being notable because of a gig listing. Wikipedia is not a place for all information on the planet. tedder (talk) 18:09, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Do Not Delete Camilla Corona, in addition to being the Solar Dynamics Observatory's mascot, is an important figure in the "open space" movement. I know blogs aren't technically considered "notable", but in a field where blogs are your news source, I feel they need to be given slightly more weight than normal. Camilla has been plugged by SolarIMG and openNASA, and has served an important role on Twitter in educating thousands of people about our Sun. I also want to point out that this is NOT a single-purpose account -- I've been around on Wikipedia for over three years, just not incredibly active. Thank you for considering my viewpoint. Trvsdrlng (talk) 17:58, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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