Talk:M3 Stuart

M3 Stuart's Combat Record or Lend Lease

The article is about the M3 Stuart light tank, and it's history, which includes it's combat record. Neary all US tanks; to include the M2 light tanks, M3 Lee tanks, and the famous M4 Sherman medium tanks were lend-leased to the allies in WWII. Lend Lease is not particular to the M3 Stuart. Lend lease should be mentioned, as it is in the article, but it certainly is not unique to the Stuart. It's first combat action against enemy tanks during WWII is distinctive to the tank. No other US tank can claim that title.

Never given an official name?

Wasn't its official name Light Tank M3? Oberiko 14:28, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Probably, I meant to distinguish that the USA never officially called it StuartGraemeLeggett 15:23, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Given that, why is the page titled "Stuart tank"...? Trekphiler 15:47, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Because it is wikipedia policy to name the article after the best-known or most popular name, and 'Stuart' is a lot better-known than "M3" or "M5"....plus 'Stuart' covers the whole series nicely. DMorpheus 19:56, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Stuart was the official name of the M3 and M5 light tanks supplied to Britain and the Commonwealth during the war. 143.167.167.170 (talk) 14:45, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

No, Stuart was the name the British gave M3/M5 light tanks in their service. Since they're U.S. vehicles, this doesn't make it an official name. TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 02:38, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

My apologies, what I meant was that the name Stuart was the official British name of the Light Tank M3 and the M5 supplied under the various Lend-lease acts. Loates Jr (talk) 14:36, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 09:40, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Unsatisfactory Light Tank?

I feel that this entry knocks the Stuart too much and strayed from neutrality. M3/M5 series were LIGHT tanks, and as such will always be inferior when compared to mediums and heavies which quite literally outclassed them (what do you expect?). M3/M5 is a SCOUT tank and it was, IMHO, a superb fighter in the recon battle. -Chin Cheng-chuan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.225.71.187 (talk) 21:05, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

What happened to these 25,000 tanks

The article at present concentrates on the military history of the Stuart Tank. What happened to them after WW2? Some obviously were recycled into other armies. Did they all end up as scrap metal? I know at least one that was put to productive use in agriculture. Is there anyone else with examples of post war life of the Stuart? Gamagr (talk) 03:12, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Stuart Tank at use in Australia hauling two ploughs

Remains in use in Brazil

This weak tank remains in use today, by Brazilian Army today, with a new diesel engine.Agre22 (talk) 03:33, 8 August 2008 (UTC)agre22

Going under

"underpowered, undercrewed, and possessed "? Undercrewed? First off, I doubt "undercrewed" is even a word, not to mention it's very PC. Second, it implies Soviet tanks didn't have enough manpower, which I seriously doubt. Third, it's unclear, per point 2. I deleted, hoping somebody can clarify what it was meant to say, which I presume has something to do with design & number of crewmen (2-3 man tanks, as opposed to 4-man, & 1-2 man turret, as opposed to 3), which has nothing to do with "undermanning", a quite separate issue (namely, a 4 man tank going out with only 3, for lack of manpower).

In addition, "However, the heavier M4 mediums were eventually brought to overcome heavily entrenched positions, though until the end of the war, supplemented the Stuarts along with" is not a complete thought, & I have no idea what was intended... TREKphiler ^{hit me ♠} 13:42 & 13:47, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Photo Improvement

The banner color photograph of this vehicle is a fine study but please crop out the eye catching person wearing red in the lower right of the image !Resolution Man (talk) 17:34, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Here it is, July 17, 2010 and still no edit of the "red" person to the far right ! That person is an "eye catcher" and spoils the image 'cause once you see that red, you will always see the red and thus is very distracting !Resolution Man (talk) 16.50 July 17, 2010

Now we are up to October 17, 2010 and STILL no cropping out of the RED figure to the far right in the header photo ! How can this be done and by whom ???Resolution Man (talk)October 17, 2010

This is wikipedia. You do it. Regards, DMorpheus (talk) 21:38, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you SO much for the crop...this is RESOLUTION MAN...back to you DMorpheus...and if I knew how to crop, I would have done it by now...again : THANX !Resolution Man (talk) 11.46, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Poorly qualified statement

"However, the M3 was superior to early-war Soviet light tanks such as the T-60, which were often underpowered and possessed even lighter armament than the Stuart." In the section on operational history gives the impression that the M3 was the best tank the Soviets had when invaded by Germany despite the fact that their T-34 and KV-1 were the heaviest and most powerful tanks in the world at the time. This statement should be properly qualified and explained.--Senor Freebie (talk) 02:38, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

America's "Pacific War" & Russia's "Great Patriotic War"

Both of those two above titles are describing the same war; WWII. The former Soviet Union (Russia) might have always called WWII their "Great Patriotic War" (against Germany...they had a non-aggression agreement with Japan); but the US it seems has only recently (in the past few years or 10) began to call the Pacific Theater of Operations the "Pacific War."

This might come back to haunt us in the end, for as the years roll by, people will soon begin to forget the men that died in the China-Burma-India theater of operations (that old "Merrill's Marauders" film starring Jeff Chandler), because you see...the Pacific War was a naval war...and that would leave the men that perished in the CBI theater (which was a land war) out of the history books (and left out of WWII).

Realizing that trends begin with each new generation, e.g. "Pacific War"..."Great Patriotic War"..."Gulf War"...etc. It's IMPORTANT to keep in mind that by changing "something" abit too much, "sometimes" changes "Historical Accuracy" into inaccurate history. In the US Army, GIs used to have an old saying, "If it ain't broke, DON'T FIX IT!" During WWII the US Military War Machine had a system: Pacific Theater of Operations (PTO), European Theater of Operations (ETO), China-Burma-India Theater of Operations (CBI), etc. That system accurately described the battle areas (combat zones). No one was left out, every man was accounted for. Now the new generation wants to change that; that World War II system worked then, it works now, don't try to fix it...it'll just mess things up (it'll begin to confuse the next generation of young people). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.105.32.38 (talk) 23:14, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Britain Tops America In Firsts?

Notice that an editor moved the British Army to first again: The British were the first to use the American M4 Sherman tank in combat; the British were the first to use the M3 Stuart light tank in combat. Now, for the third first, an editor has moved the M3 Stuart to "the Stuart was used by the British during Lend-Lease..." in the first portion of the article. The American's first tank vs tank battle of WWII has been relegated to 3rd place.

The M3 Stuart was and American tank. It was designed and built in the US. It was given to the British (under lend lease) to help them out during the war. The British already have their Firsts with the Sherman and Stuart tanks by being the first to use them in WWII (first use in combat). The way the article was first written, the Americans had their first tank engagement in this tank! It's an American Tank, with Americans fighting in it for the first time, the American Stuart light tank at least deserves top billing as the article was first written (instead of 3rd place under the British!).

After all, whats more important; the Stuart was as a lend lease vehicle, or it fought America's First tank battle! America's first tank fight should be written where it was in the beginning...at the start of the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.93.21.110 (talk) 18:10, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

This isn't an American encyclopedia or a list of "American firsts". The M3 was first used in action by Brits. That makes M3's first combat action a Brit action. First American use, therefore, is much less significant. Get over it. TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 02:27, 24 October 2010 (UTC)