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December 5

Cricketer templates

Cricketer templates list
Template:Ajit de Silva (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Alan Hurst (cricketer) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Alan Knott (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Alan Turner (cricketer) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Allan Border (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Alvin Kallicharran (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Andrew Hilditch (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Andy Roberts (cricketer) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Anshuman Gaekwad (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Anura Ranasinghe (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Anura Tennekoon (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Ashley Mallett (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Asif Iqbal (cricketer) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Asif Masood (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Bandula Warnapura (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Barry Hadlee (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Barry Wood (cricketer) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Bernard Julien (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Bishan Singh Bedi (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Bob Taylor (cricketer) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Bob Willis (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Brian Hastings (cricketer) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Brian McKechnie (cricketer) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Brijesh Patel (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Bruce Edgar (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Bryan Mauricette (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Cecil Marshall (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Charles Baksh (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Chris Old (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Christopher Chappell (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Clive Lloyd (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Cornelius Henry (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:David Gower (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:David Heyn (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Dayle Hadlee (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Dennis Amiss (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Dennis Lillee (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Derek Randall (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Derek Underwood (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Deryck Murray (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Dilip Vengsarkar (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Don Pringle (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Doug Walters (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Duleep Mendis (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Eknath Solkar (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Ewen Chatfield (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Farokh Engineer (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Frank Hayes (cricketer) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Franklyn Dennis (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Frasat Ali (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Gary Cosier (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Gary Gilmour (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Gary Troup (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Geoff Arnold (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Geoff Dymock (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Geoff Howarth (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Geoff Miller (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Geoffrey Boycott (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Glenn Turner (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Glenroy Sealy (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Gordon Greenidge (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Graeme Porter (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Graham Gooch (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Graham Yallop (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Greg Chappell (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Gundappa Viswanath (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Hamish McLeod (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Harilal Shah (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Haroon Rashid (cricketer) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Hedley Howarth (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Ian Botham (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Ian Chappell (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Imran Khan (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Javed Miandad (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Jawahir Shah (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Jeff Moss (cricketer) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Jeff Thomson (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Jeremy Coney (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Jitendra Patel (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:John Jameson (cricketer) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:John Morrison (cricketer) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:John Nagenda (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:John Parker (cricketer) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:John Snow (cricketer) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:John Valentine (cricket) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:John Vaughan (cricketer) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:John Wright (cricketer) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Kapil Dev (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Karsan Ghavri (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Keith Boyce (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Keith Fletcher (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Ken Wadsworth (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Kevin Wright (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Kim Hughes (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Lalith Kaluperuma (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Lance Cairns (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Lance Gibbs (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Madan Lal (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Majid Khan (cricketer) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Mark Burgess (cricket player) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Martin Stead (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Max Walker (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Mevan Pieris (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Michael Tissera (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Mike Brearley (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Mike Denness (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Mike Hendrick (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Mohinder Amarnath (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Mudassar Nazar (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Mushtaq Mohammad (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Naseer Malik (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Parbhu Nana (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Pervez Mir (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Peter Lever (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Phil Edmonds (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Praful Mehta (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Ramesh Sethi (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Ranjit Fernando (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Richard Collinge (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Richard Hadlee (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Rick Darling (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Rick McCosker (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Robert Callender (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Rod Marsh (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Rodney Hogg (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Rohan Kanhai (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Ross Edwards (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Roy Fredericks (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Sadiq Mohammad (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Samuel Walusimbi (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Sarfraz Nawaz (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Shiraz Sumar (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Sikander Bakht (cricketer) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Somachandra de Silva (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Srinivasaraghavan Venkataraghavan (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Stanley de Silva (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Sunil Gavaskar (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Sunil Wettimuny (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Surinder Khanna (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Tariq Javed (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Tony Greig (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Tony Opatha (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Trevor Laughlin (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Vanburn Holder (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Viv Richards (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Warren Lees (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Warren Stott (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Wasim Bari (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Wasim Raja (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Wayne Larkins (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Yunus Badat (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Zaheer Abbas (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Zulfiqar Ali (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnecessary templates. None have any transclusions or links. Mhiji (talk) 00:04, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think the idea was a good faith attempt at improvement but the structure is too convoluted for the average user to follow and is of only small benefit. 1975 Cricket World Cup squads and 1979 Cricket World Cup squads should revert back to simple tables. –Moondyne 04:31, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete It is probably a more efficient manner of doing things, once established - but it is not the way the Wikipedia works, or should work. Editing should be intuitive. I have enough problems trying to edit succession boxes and rail templates without expanding the concept too much further. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 05:59, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Per Moondyne delete the subpages and the other 3 templates as well. Mhiji (talk) 14:30, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Hi Guys - I strongly request not to delete this. I accept that it is a bit complex structure, but I can look to simplify that. The idea was to store static information about crickets in a single place and then transclude that using the Templates to show where ever needed. Practically every cricket tournament has either a section or linked page that contains the squad of the teams that took part and as someone who has been looking at it, there are multiple cases of this information being different in different pages.
      I took the idea for this from the way one of the more established templates Template:Infobox Election uses for the party color & party short name.
      If the problem is only the complexity, then perhaps I can discuss with you experts on how this can be simplified and I will make sure I change all of them. This is a passionate request...
      Aditya.krishnan.82 (talk, contribs) 20:36, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Template:SA (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnecessary template. Mhiji (talk) 23:25, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Hamlets in Suffolk (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

There must be hundreds of hamlets in Suffolk, putting them all into one template would be unweildy and not at all useful Ilikeeatingwaffles (talk) 23:08, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Hamlets in Norfolk (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

There are hundreds of hamlets in Norfolk and I see no use in putting them all in one template. This current one is far from complete. Ilikeeatingwaffles (talk) 23:06, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - Hamlets are too numerous to have any worthwhile function as a navigation or search aid. An English county or administraztive area could have thousands of hamlets.--Kudpung (talk) 02:14, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Template:Nct (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnecessary template. Mhiji (talk) 23:00, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Den (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnecessary template. Mhiji (talk) 22:14, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Mythological king of Sweden (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

In the process of cleaning up the category sort in articles transcluding this template, I found it easier to just orphan by substitution, since it automatically adds a cat, and it was otherwise impossible to sort the cats. Given that it was only transcluded on about 5 articles, and didn't really save any typing, I felt this was uncontroversial. It was also a bit inflexible, in that it could not be merged with other neighboring succession templates due its transclusion of the {{s-start}} and {{s-end}} templates. Hence, I now present this template for deletion. If my orphaning of this template is controversial, I am happy to revert these edits. Thank you. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:10, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Naismith Award Winners Men (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Wooden Award Winners Men (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Basically hard coded versions of {{succession box}} which are orphaned and haven't had any significant edits since 2006. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:57, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Governor box (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

An interesting idea, to create a succession box for governors which will automatically create the link to [[List of governors of STATE|governor of STATE]] based on some pagesize logic. However, in the end, I don't think it saves much over using {{succession box}}. It was only being used on two articles, George W. Bush and Ann Richards, where I replaced it with the more generic box. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:54, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Sockblock (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:SockBlock (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Sockblock with Template:SockBlock.
Duplication. Template:SockBlock has only 1 transclusion anyway. Should be substituted and then deleted. Sorry realised its a substituted template. The only difference is one has the word temporary and one has the word indefinitely. Perhaps a parameter could be added if its needed to switch between the two. If not merged, one should be renamed. Mhiji (talk) 21:43, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:IPNI (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Ipni (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:IPNI with Template:Ipni.
Duplication. Mhiji (talk) 21:29, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:RomanCentury (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

"18th century" etc. is not the recommended style for centuries (see WP:MOS#Longer_periods). The template is not used anymore, and even if it would give MoS-friendly output ("18th century"), {{RomanCentury|18}} requires more keystrokes than simply "18th century". Markussep Talk 16:56, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Video game engines (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This is essentially a template that lists the articles in the category. In my opinion, they are not linked closely enough that they should have a nav template between them - but if they do, WP:NAV suggests using the self-populating {{otherarticles}} template instead. I think that is a better fit here. Addionne (talk) 15:54, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is not just a copy of the category, but a list of distinction between FOSS and non-FOSS software, as plenty of other FOSS/non-FOSS aggregation templates exist for other software classifications. --Toussaint (talk) 06:08, 27 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, SchuminWeb (Talk) 09:19, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Template:WikiProject U.S. state capitols (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This Project has been long dead. After discussing on the WPUS talk page it was agreed this project was dead and no longer needed. I initially just redirected it but it might be better just to delete it. Kumioko (talk) 04:42, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]