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Razhel Gee Mengullo

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This article is on a non-notable junior karate competitor. I can't access the references from the local paper (which is still insufficient to show WP:N) and the other references either don't mention her or fail to show notability. This article was deleted at AfD last year (as Razhel Mengullo) and then recreated under its current name. It survived another AfD nomination as a "no consensus" because of a number of "keep" votes from people associated with her school. Papaursa (talk) 20:33, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Were these senior competitions or did she win junior age division titles? The Olympic Festival is not the same as tryouts for the Olympic team, correct? Papaursa (talk) 01:37, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Athletes are not born professional; others maybe gifted but some are made champions step by step due to constant training and discipline.jjska®ate 空手|道® 02:14, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: It would be very unfair in wikipedia if it will only recognized professional athletes and olympic sportsmen. We should also consider the performance or level of competition of every athletes. Professional or not; olympic sports or non-olympic sport event. There are number of athletes that are performing well from school base, regional up to national level tournament. National tournament of USA would be very far behind compared to any "3rd World Countries" national games.DamakDamak (talk) 04:13, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep - Meets guidelines for notability by participating and won medals in the national level competitions. Accomplished athlete in her early age. Very promising fighter, we should give credit for her achievements.1 Hoy! Pinoy ako. 01:58, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Sufficient in form and in substance. Clearly a notable karate practitioner and a national champion.DamakDamak (talk) 08:33, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I am not convinced that the competitions that she won are sufficient to establish notability. That she is now a freshman at university, all these competitions must be junior age tournaments. I counsel the closing admin to look over the edit histories of all the participants of this AFD. jmcw (talk) 11:28, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
NOTE: High school and pre-high school athletes are notable if they have received, as individuals, substantial and prolonged coverage that is (1) independent of the subject and (2) clearly goes beyond WP:ROUTINE coverage.jjska®ate 空手|道® 01:07, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
WP:ATH says "Sports figures are presumed notable if they have participated in a major international amateur or professional competition at the highest level such as the Olympics." It also says "local coverage in both news sources and sports specific publications" are excluded because that coverage is considered routine. Papaursa (talk) 01:33, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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