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Your submission at Articles for creation

Your nomination at Articles for Creation was declined, and Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Shaikh Mir Asedullah Quadri was not created. Please view your submission to see the comments left by the reviewer, and please feel free to request article creation again once the issues have been addressed. Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia!  Chzz  ►  08:56, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Shaikh Mir Asedullah Quadri

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Speedy deletion nomination of Shaikh Mir Asedullah Quadri

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A tag has been placed on Shaikh Mir Asedullah Quadri, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be unambiguous advertising that only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

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Speedy deletion nomination of User:Guide99

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A tag has been placed on User:Guide99, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be unambiguous advertising that only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

If you can indicate why the subject of this article is not blatant advertising, you may contest the tagging. To do this, please add {{hangon}} on the top of User:Guide99 and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would help make it encyclopedic, as well as adding any citations from independent reliable sources to ensure that the article will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:17, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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VernoWhitney (talk) 14:41, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Shaikh Mir Asedullah Quadri

A tag has been placed on Shaikh Mir Asedullah Quadri, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam as well as Wikipedia:FAQ/Business for more information. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

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Hi Guide99. Thanks for your submission at Shaikh Mir Asedullah Quadri - I notice you contest the deletion of the page, but removed the speedy deletion tag at the same time. Because you created the page, you must not remove the original tags at the same time as you place the {{hangon}}. I've had to put the original tag back, but as you've contested deletion, it will be down to an administrator to decide what happens. Sorry for the inconvenience, and I hope you understand. BarkingFish Talk to me | My contributions 10:54, 7 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Shaikh Mir Asedullah Quadri

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re Shaikh Mir Asedullah Quadri

It's not enough for the copyright holder to release his material just for use on Wikipedia. Instead, he must release the material for the entire world to use. We do not use material that retains its copyright, because we allow anyone else to re-use our material for any purpose.

You can release the material by entering it into the public domain, or by releasing it under the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License (CC-BY-SA), which amounts to basically the same thing. If you do this, anyone may use the material for any reason, including attacks on Shaikh Mir Asedullah Quadri.

Are you sure you want to do this?

If for some odd reason you do, see Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more details. Basically, the usual way to do this is to add the following message to your web site:

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I strongly suggest that, instead, you rewrite the article in your own words. Herostratus (talk) 13:24, 11 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Shaikh Mir Asedullah Quadri has written to Wikipedia the following letter today again.

To:permissions-en@wikimedia (dot) org Date 28.6.2010

Dear Gentlemen:

I, Shaikh Mir Asedullah Quadri have authorized 'Habib", (User ID Guide99 Wikipedia) and to Wikipedia to use the contents at page http://www.correctislamicfaith.com/abouttheshaikh.htm.

This is my third letter to Wikipedia. I don't know what is going on in Wikipedia. There does not seem to be an organized system in your organization. Mr. Habib complaints that his page is deleted in spite of written permissions.

SHAIKH MIR ASEDULLAH QUADRI OWNER www.correctislamicfaith.com www.cifiaonline.com

Since the Shaikh has permitted to use the entire page in free domain, I hope Wikipedia will publish my page as soon as possible.

Guide99 (talk) 19:20, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We welcome and appreciate your contributions, such as Shaikh Mir Asedullah Quadri, but we regretfully cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from either web sites or printed material. This article appears to be a copy from http://www.correctislamicfaith.com/abouttheshaikh.htm, and therefore a copyright violation. The copyrighted text has been or will soon be deleted. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with our copyright policy. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators are liable to be blocked from editing.

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If you would like to begin working on a new version of the article you may do so at this temporary page. Leave a note at Talk:Shaikh Mir Asedullah Quadri saying you have done so and an administrator will move the new article into place once the issue is resolved. Thank you, and please feel welcome to continue contributing to Wikipedia. Happy editing! TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 13:43, 11 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Since we do not yet have verification of permission by the processes set out above and sufficient time has passed since the placement of the notice, the article has been deleted for copyright concerns. This deletion is not necessarily permanent. If you have already sent a letter to the Wikimedia Foundation permitting re-use under the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License (CC-BY-SA) and GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) (if you are not the copyright holder or have co-authored the material, release under CC-BY-SA-compatible license alone is sufficient), the article will be restored when that letter is received and processed by the Wikimedia Communications committee. Likewise, if you have not yet sent a letter, you still may (or resend it, if you believe your original may have been lost), and the article will be restored when that letter is received and processed.

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Thank you. Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:41, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Naik as Salafi

Hi. If you want a source that says that Zakir Naik is a Salafi, see this: [1] . I have no idea how reliable the CIFIA is, however. Regards, Jeff5102 (talk) 10:38, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Guide99, I respectfully agree with Jeff5102. There is nothing wrong with stating that Zakir Naik is a Salafi if he is a Salafi, but there is something incorrect in making a statement about a person's faith without a reliable source. If you think the source mentioned by Jeff5102 is reliable (I'm unsure myself), why not add it?GorgeCustersSabre (talk) 17:35, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please add any reliable and reasonable source if you think it is objective evidence that Zakir Naik is a Salafi. I have no axe to grind. I am not for Salafis and I am not against Salafis. I am not for Naik and I am not against him. YOU need to provide evidence. I don't need to because this is not my assertion. It is yours. Telling me what a Salafi is does not constitute evidence that Naik is a Salafi. Wikipedia is not supposed to be based on new research, or personal judgements, but evidence. Thank you.GorgeCustersSabre (talk) 11:41, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Genuine Dispute

There is a genuine dispute of edit on Dr. Zakir Naik's page. I explained above that it is in the best interest of (Wikipedia, Dr. Naik, and truthfulness of information) and neutrality that the edit is not reverted. I thought I was protecting the image of Wikipedia.

I would appreciate to be explained, answered properly and convinced, rather than silenced menacingly.

I have not "silenced" you, let alone with menance. See my comments above. But it is incumbent on you to provide reliable EVIDENCE. That's all. I wish you happiness and peace.GorgeCustersSabre (talk) 11:43, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Your recent edits

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Neutral, 3rd party references needed for Mir Asedullah Quadri or it will be deleted

Greetings, I note your article Mir Asedullah Quadri has been deleted numerous times before, and it will happen yet again unless you provide neutral, 3rd party references proving his notability. This is especially important as he appears to be a living person, and per WP:BLP biographies of living people positively have to be footnoted. Footnotes to blogs, sectarian websites, or personal websites do not cout. What you need are footnotes to a news article from a reputable newspaper or book that is not necessarily a direct supporter of any religious/political movement associated with Quadri. We maintain these standards so that we get the objective story, rather than just the info that a partisan site or personal website wants to promote. Hope that's good enough to get you started; the article will go up for deletion yet again if such footnotes aren't added. MatthewVanitas (talk) 22:39, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Mir Asedullah Quadri

The article Mir Asedullah Quadri has been proposed for deletion because under Wikipedia policy, all biographies of living persons created after March 18, 2010, must have at least one source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't take offense. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners or ask at Wikipedia:Help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{prod blp}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. --DAJF (talk) 06:17, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]


It is not good to vandalize with Shaikh's Article

The works of Shaikh Mir Asedullah Quadri were highly acclaimed by Shaikh Deedat which he has referred to in his letters he wrote to the Shaikh from South Africa. This is totally an independent source.

Please see the scan copies of these letters placed on the following location of Shaikh's website. IPCI is not part of CIFIA. It is an independent Organization and the Head of the Organization Shaikh Deedat is recognizing the works of Shaikh.

(1) http://www.cifiaonline.com/scan0003.tif (2) http://www.cifiaonline.com/scan0002.tif (3) http://www.cifiaonline.com/scan0004.tif (4) http://www.cifiaonline.com/scan0005.tif

The above are not references of Shaikh's website. These are scan copies of Shaikh Deedat's letters recognizing Shaikh Quadri's work.

See more reference on Internet.

(5) On Internet, Islamic Organizations feel it is prestige if their Website is listed on CIFIA. See this reference - http://www.sufi.co.za/

(6) Shaikh's Articles listed on this Arabic Website http://alsufia.org/showthread.php?p=73198

(7) http://www.shariaa.net/forum/archive/index.php/t-16375.html (Shaikh's Article discussed and appreciated on the above Forum which has several thousand members).

(8)Shaikh's Articles listed on this Arabic Website http://www.shariaa.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16375

(9) Shaikh's Articles on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=136808169673532

(10) Shaikh's Articles discussed on another forum on Internet Awliya-e-Hind.com - http://kgn786.com/forum/index.php?action=printpage;topic=13655.0

(11)Shaikh's Articles listed on the following Website http://www.museumstuff.com/learn/topics/Ahmed_Deedat::sub::Debates

(12) Shaikh Mir Asedullah Quadri on Facebook France http://fr-fr.facebook.com/pages/Shaikh-Mir-Asedullah-Quadri/146870918664650

(13)Correct Islamic Faith Group on Facebook. This was started by young Muslims. http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=136808169673532&topic=266

(14) Another Website calling Shaikh's work as excellent. http://sunniforum.net/showthread.php?p=13904

(15) Many of the Shaikh's Articles listed on this Blog http://omssislam.blogspot.com/2010_09_15_archive.html

(16) Many of Shaikhs Articles are listed and debated on this Forum which has over 15000 members http://kgn786.com/forum/index.php?topic=15038.0

(17)Even other sects appreciate Shaikh's work. See this website - http://sufism.bahaifaith.info/

(18)Shaikh Biography listed on this website http://reference.findtarget.com/search/Mir%20Asedullah%20Quadri/

(19)Cifia listed on this blog many many times. http://omssislam.blogspot.com/2010_09_18_archive.html

(20) The Forum with 15000 or more members discussing Shaikh's Articles http://kgn786.com/forum/index.php?topic=11133.0

(21) Shaikh's biography listed on this Website http://private-interest-foundation.info/news/Mir-Asedullah-Quadri.html

(22) Shaikh has a lot of respect among Ahle Sunnah, See bottom lines of this page on Internet. http://www.sunniport.com/masabih/showthread.php?p=29020

(23)Shaikh listed as Islamic Scholar - see this website http://www.ask.com/wiki/Islamic_Scholars

I hope the above should be sufficient for the time being. All these references will be provided on his page.

Guide99 (talk) 12:27, 17 December 2010 (UTC)--Guide99 (talk) 12:27, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See my explanation on the article's talk page. Again, none of those sources meet WP:RS (reliable sources). Find us a major newspaper article, a scholarly book about Islam in Asia, and that will constitute at least basic proof of notability. Note however that this still would not mean "find one single external ref and then just re-dump direct quotes from CIFA itself all over the rest of the page." If you can't find at least one external ref, the article will be deleted again, and will be (much more promptly in the future) deleted if it is re-started without establishing WP:NOTABILITY. Either you can find mention of this man in the independent media, or you cannot. I have looked all over Google and cannot find a reliable, neutral source. MatthewVanitas (talk) 15:21, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Your pathetic attitude and clear cut bullying

I had put a tag to contest the proposed deletion. You should have allowed it be seen and judged by some unbiased and neutral Administrators and then decide upon it. But, in the quickest haste, you removed the tag. You seem to have formed a biased group to bully people on Wikipedia and are using your leverage with Wikipedia wrongly, in a dictatorial manner.

Look into your conscience, you will know the truth.

I have provided outside references from many Islamic Institutions with physical addresses in the world about the Shaikh. They have appreciated his works on their official websites. Even one of such evidence is sufficient for Wikipedia while I have provided around 17.

In addition, I provided written evidence of Shaikh Deedat who is accepted by Wahhabis, Deobandis and Sunnis as an Islamic Scholar. He has appreciated Shaikh's work.

I provided appreciation of other sects, like Bhaiees (who are not related with Shaikh's work and preaching) Organization which they have put Shaikh's appreciation on their official website. They have physical address and phone numbers.

I provided evidences for American Management Association, British Institute of Management, Association of Business Executives of UK, where the Shaikh was member for many years. All these Institutions are real, physically existing and extremely popular in the world.

In spite of all these evidence, you think you can delete the Article. Alas, I do not understand what kind of logic you follow. I will indeed appeal against your arbitrary actions and I am sure I will get justice at Wikipedia. I know there are judicious people in Wikipedia who will sure disagree with what you are up to.

It is a good idea to convince people, rather than try to silence their voice by vandalism.

Guide99 (talk) 04:48, 18 December 2010 (UTC)--Guide99 (talk) 04:48, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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