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Pronunciation

I notice someone's changed the pronunciation of "Sláine" back from my effort ("Slahn-yeh") to "Slawin-uh". Aside from being clumsy and difficult to understand what pronunciation is actually intended (Sla-win or slaw-in?) I just think it's wrong. The i is there to keep the n slender and wouldn't be pronounced, any more than the o in Fionn which is there to keep the n broad. I think "ah" is a better way of representing the sound of á than "aw". And "Slawin-uh" also doesn't represent the slenderness of the n in any way. Comments from any wikipedians who know Irish?

Nicknack009

Hi Nicknack009

I'm an Irish speaker and I go with your "Slahn-yeh", much better than the other option.

Daithimac

Its pronounced slain, as in dead, this may be historically incorrect but thats how its said in the comic.

Whilst the majority of readers may well have pronounced the name 'slain', as per the English pronunciation of those letters, the name is definitely correctly pronounced 'Slahn-yeh'. I was told this by an Irish reader once. In fact, if I remember rightly, there was an issue that carried a guide to the pronunciation of some of the names in the strip, including Niamh ('Neeve', I think), and Mebd (can't remember, maybe 'Meeve' :)). LSmok3 00:34, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just as a point of reference, you can hear series creator Pat Mills pronounce it as "slain" in a podcast dated 2010-12-12 (9 mins in). 94.195.194.71 (talk) 12:15, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

i removed invalid link to simon bisley page that does not anymore exist and i added notice after the precedent(may need correction of my english)

Bibliography

I've been through the bibliography and reformatted things in line with general standards and in keeping with the other related entries. What I have done is also divide them up by the Rebellion trades which has worked well with Nikolai Dante and the third Slaine The King is out in July (ISBN 190426557X) which should help further split things up further. What it is currently missing are the years for most of them so if someone else wants to feel free to add them or I will when I get time. (Emperor 19:37, 16 May 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Sources and influences

Those editing this section have to be careful as it can easily spill over into original research. I think it is fine to point out that characters appear in various legends (especially where there is a Wikipedia entry on them where readers can look at the information and make their own minds up) but it is probably stepping over the line to say that such and such was specifically taken form that legend unless you can find a Pat Mills interview which specifically says that. It is a thin line I know and possibly still a bit of a grey area but it is a good section and well worth keeping, it just needs a careful eye on the wording. I've asked for facts but on some it can be fixed with a simple rewording. Otehr things might need information from a Pat Mills interview. (Emperor 13:58, 5 June 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Cúchulainn was definitely the biggest inspiration for the character of Sláine. I have changed this on numerous occasions and the person who keeps changing it back is implying that Conan the barbarian is the bigger influence. (Munsterdevil (talk) 03:58, 3 June 2009 (UTC))[reply]

The paragraph says that the most obvious source is Conan, and then goes on to discuss the deeper influences, including Cú Chulainn! Your edits are redundant and make the paragraph totally incoherent. Besides, all Sláine takes from Cú Chulainn is the warp spasm and the gae bolga - otherwise he's a very different character with a different personality, different personal status and a totally different story. --Nicknack009 (talk) 08:18, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]