Talk:Muslim Public Affairs Committee UK

MPAC DO NOT REPRESENT ME

I am a British Bengali Muslim living in Ilford (MPAC have a major presence here)....and these people do not represent me. They bang on about Israel, Palestine and 'Islamophobia' without addressing core issues that effect our communities like housing, employment and inner-city regeneration (guess these aren't 'glamorous' issues). They always look for the headline news....they are out to make a splash. THey are not taken seriously outside their own circle as they criticise Muslims who do not agree with their confrontational political attitudes.

In Ilford they tried to stop Mike Gapes MP (Lab) but succeeded only in making a fool of themselves when Muslims and Hindus in our area (mainly from Gujrat in India) voted for him in their droves. Afterwards MPAC had the gall to call their campaign a 'victory' because Mr. Gapes majority had been cut!

Also the group is full of Pakistanis and generally follows the Pakistani activist agenda.

Im not surprised that this rabble will do anything to court publicity (even if it leads to creating bad publicity for us Asians and Muslims)....including getting their members to change the wiki entry....how pathetic!!!

ps...(before the accusations start)...yes my MPAC 'brothers,' I am in the pay of Mossad and the Zionists. lol

...Habz...

Why cannot it just be a normal accurate account instead of vilification of this organisation on here? All the views expressed are in the public domain, what makes this so special?

--- Ninjamagic UK -------

==A note: people on the MPACUK forums (including moderators) have actively encouraged their members to edit the Wikipedia page to reflect well upon the group. Coupled with the posting of pictures from neo-Nazi websites and the accusation that anyone who opposes them is a "Zionist"...well, these folks are nuts. They once organized the harassment of a fruit vendor because he had Israeli dates (it's one of their cover stories from a few months ago).

Be careful around these guys, everyone.

--Ware -- ==

Response (delayed) to SolSol

MPACUK says that their forum is independent as a bit of a guise. True, their forum is run by different people than the central organizers, however it would only take a single instruction from the central organizers to curb the extremism expressed on the forums. But they don't and there's a pretty obvious reason for that. There's a link to where one of the moderators advocated that group members manipulate the Wikipedia page for their site. However, that thread (like many of the other controversial things they talk about) is in the private section of the forums that is not accessible to non-members or internet search engine crawlers.

Like SolSol, I am also a user of the MPACUK forums, but went quiet with my posting after getting sick of the absurd stuff written there. I have also followed the non-forum (IE primary organizing) activities for a while. As I said before, the main organizers coordinated an aggressive boycott and harassment campaign of a little fruit vendor because he stocked Israeli dates. The MPACUK organizers started this via their main website and it was tracked by the forum members, who openly talked about how they went into the store and called them all throughout the day to accuse him of collaborating with the "Kuffar" (their words).

Their general outlook is this: they claim that Jews are controlling UK and US foreign policy with a massive, mutli-tentacled conspiracy. This Zionist conspiracy (and no other reason) is why British Muslims are having troubles in the UK. Thus, the MPACUK solution is the politicize the mosques in the UK and use them to wage "political jihad" (that's MPACUK's term, not mine) and end this Zionist conspiracy. In short, they want to imitate the Zionist conspiracy that they claim is suppressing them.

Like I said, this is a strange group of folks.

-Ware [Feb. 11, 2007]

Criticism by Ware and my view on this entry

Having watched this entry and the discussion page, and then finally reading the accusation above by Ware, i really cannot stay silent any longer.

I am a user on the MPAC forums and the accusations made Ware are false and malicious. Although the MPACUK Forum is hosted by mpacuk, the forum is moderated and used by non-mpacuk members. What we say on the Forum is NOT in any way representative of what the organisation may think. Any fair reader will surely agree with this point. There has been no encouragement to edit the Wikipedia page and even if there was there is nothing to say that people like Ware haven't signed up on the Forum and posted such a request themselves.

With regards to the entry itself, I have never seen a more biased entry in the whole of wikipedia. Quotes are made from blatantly biased sources to paint the organisation in a bad light. I'm so glad that Taz Manchester put a NPOV violation on the article. I had no idea that this was possible else I would have done this much much before.

Please note, I am not a MPAC Member - I Shouldn't have to declare this, but I feel as much as people here will marginalise what I have to say, and also I am not a Muslim (Once again I shouldnt have to declare this either but feel I must). I am a Christian in the UK who thinks that a body like MPAC is and has been needed for a very long time. The pro Israeli lobby has gone unchallenged in my country and in the US and if what they do upsets people like Ware and others of his ilk, then that can only be a good thing.

If you really want to know about MPACUK visit their website or talk to someone on their Forum. This entry is as biased as they come.

--SolSol 22/8/06 1214 (BST - GMT+1)

Bad Grammar

"MPACUK has repeatedly been criticized for publishing anti-Semitic material based on its criticism of Israeli forign policy."

Is that even a proper sentence? I have no idea what it means. Can the original writer try and rephrase it?

P. --Paul Moloney 10:56, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Founders of MPACUK

You only have the two Bukhari brother as founders but "it was originally run by four activists, Asghar Bukhari, Zulfikar Bukhari, Tassadiq Rehman, and Muddassar Ahmed, who operated from home, according to Michael Whine of the Community Security Trust." Robert C Prenic 18:39, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

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I need to go back and locate my source for this. Please bear with me!

In the meantime do you mind if we keep it like this until I insert my source? If not, please feel free to put your source in for the time being.

Thanks

Funkybassuk 10:27, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I'l wait friend. Robert C Prenic 11:53, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

2008 Facebook controversy

There is no need for this section to be in this article. What Asghar Bukhari said in a facebook comment has nothing to do with MPAC as it was not in that capacity that this was said. I am removing it entirely. Please post on here before re-adding it. ~Anony —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.179.53.36 (talk) 15:24, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

It ceased to be Bukhari's private business when

1. the Centre for Social Cohesion passed his comments onto the police
2. Bukhari confirmed his stance with the Daily Telegraph
3. The Jerusalem Post reported on it

Nobody would care for Bukhari's opinions on Mujahadeens, martyrs, and public attacks on Islam had he not founded MPAC. Anyway, it's not Wikipedians who judge on relevance, but reliable sources. CSC, Daily Telegraph, and Jerusalem Post are just that, and they reported this incident referring to Bukhari as MPAC's founder and spokesman, whether you agree or not this to be pertinent. Please refrain from bullying WP. --tickle me 00:10, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

This should go into Asghar's profile, not MPACUK's wiki page - 21/12/2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.105.94.185 (talk) 18:30, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Election 2010

This page is outdate and should be updated with recent happenings. I am planning to add an Election section for 2010. Here is part of the text I'm planning to put in.

as he was perceived having anti-muslim bias. The campaign resulted in Phil Woolas winning a majority by 103 votes. However, after an eventual court-case resulted in suspension as an MP and ban from holding public office for three years for using false information about Muslims to "frighten white voters" . MPAC have been credited as playing a vital part in this campaign .