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Editing cleanup

I tried placing an external links section including the imdb site and some of the links from the main article to help clear up the citation issue but ended up being cleared by a bot? Anyone know why? 68.13.6.96 (talk) 06:53, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind, I think this might have been because of the wiki link from the main page on P&F 68.13.6.96 (talk) 07:14, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is this quote needed? Doofenshmirtz

Even though he and Perry are enemies, they sometimes act like friends. For example, Doofenshmirtz gets a date and asks Perry to act like a mindless pet. A major example is in "It's About Time!", when Doofenshmirtz get a new nemesis named Peter the Panda, Perry goes into a state of depression. But his is just a scam, although, Doofenshmirtz admits that he regretted getting a new nemesis. 68.13.6.96 (talk) 07:14, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Meap

This is a minor character that appears in a few episodes not a secondary one. Is he (it?) really worth mentioning? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.13.6.96 (talk) 07:18, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There seems to be a few minor characters listed as secondary characters. I missed a few episodes so can anyone help with cleaning that up? Meep, Pinky, and Jenny seem minor to me. Also seems Vivian, Lil Suzzy, and Charlene could be argued as such as well 68.13.6.96 (talk) 07:34, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict

This statement "The animals use the first letter of their species as their code name (i.e. a dog would be Agent D, a chicken would be Agent C, etc.)" doesn't coincide with the statement under Pinky who is also declared as being Agent P. I missed that episode so can anyone else clarify? Should this be removed form Perry's profile? Also does the article really need the info on Pinky? Is he a secondary character or a minor one? 68.13.6.96 (talk) 07:34, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It could be a mistake!What if it's not species but name like Waldo the Worm or Dean the Dog because that makes sense.--Yoshi39 (talk) 19:23, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Nationality"

Since when is "Hispanic" a nationality? Why do Isabelle and Bajeet get called "Hispanic" and "Indian" while Buford gats to be "American of Dutch descent". Isabelle (who by her last name is also Jewish) was, I'm sure born in the US. Bajeet, I'm less sure of but am presuming that he was either born here or is naturalized. American is not synonymous with "white".--Tricksterson (talk) 15:09, 18 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. However Bajeet was born in India. Isabella's mom is also listed as "Mexican" where have we seen "Mexican". Her accent/name could be from any number of backgrounds. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.137.144.48 (talk) 17:28, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Too long

Isn't the article getting too long? Do we need to split it up?Abce2|Aww nuts!Wribbit!(Sign here) 17:32, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jeremy Johnson

This sentence: "Jeremy is 16 years old due to the fact that he can drive a car with no parent meaning he has had his license for 6 months" Just isn't worded right. First it sounds like original research. Second how many states have the law that way now? And do we know for a fact that the 'tri-state area' is one such place? Also (again original research) just being able to drive means that he is OVER the legal driving age, so he could be 17, or even 18. Working in a fast food place is a better reason to be labeled as being 16. He also isn't "often known" for hosting exchange students since he has done this once. (and show me where he was the host of "DD" and not just a friend?). "Chez Platypus" is not the only episode where Candace and Jeremy go on a date. and "Phineas and Ferb Get Busted" was a dream so can't be counted on for accurate info. And if we list every single episode where Jeremy and Candace interact, it will A: get very long, and B: become a list. I feel key episodes in their relationship should be the only ones mentioned.

The whole paragraph should be rewritten to something like: Jeremy is around the same age as Candace. He can drive a car without a parent and works at "Mr. Slushy Burger", sometimes called "Mr. Slushy Dawg" (a parody of Burger King) at the mall. Candace has a crush on Jeremy and it seems he also likes her. They are first seen in a romantic view in "Lawn Gnome Beach Party of Terror!". They also go on dates as seen in "Chez Platypus" where they have a romantic dinner together and "Journey to the Center of Candace" when Jeremy has a sandwich named after Candace at his uncles restaurant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.137.144.48 (talk) 17:57, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Too long (The sequel)

We really need to do something about the length. Do we even need a section about characters who have only been in one episode?Abce2|Aww nuts!Wribbit!(Sign here) 21:43, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly I was happy they were finally pulled from the secondary character list. I think you might be right though. A few characters probably need to be zapped. What we could do is place them here on the dicussion board. If they appear in enough episodes, then someone could pull them to the main page.

Buford

Isn't Buford missing a chromezone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.250.97.95 (talk) 19:34, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Removed Minor Characters

Do to lack of notability I'm removing some minor characters. Here is a list and info of the ones removed.

  • The Talking Zebra appears sometimes in Candace's imagination and calls her "Kevin". He has appeared in "The Ballad of Bad Beard" and in "Phineas and Ferb Get Busted" episodes. Candace once remarked that she sees him all the time.
  • Dr. Hirano (Ming Wen) is Stacy's mother and works as a doctor. She appeared in the episode, "I Scream You Scream," treating Isabella's tonsils. It is inferred that she does not think of her daughter as a genius for Stacy asked Candace twice to tell her mom that Stacy was a genius.
  • Suzy and Jeremy Johnson have been seen with a pet poodle, that Suzy had allegedly trained to be mean to Candace.
  • Marty the Rabbit Boy and his Musical Blender auditioned for, and was the winner of the Danville auditions for The Next Super American Pop Teen Idol Star! Marty first appeared as Candace attempted to expose her siblings new music career, although the two were seen being invited to visit the Huge-O-Records office backstage, a shadowed out act was seen on the stage visually resembling Phineas and Ferb. However, it was not Phineas and the Ferb-Tones, but Marty, who then proceeded to play "The Blue Danube" on a blender. After this discovery, clearly not believing Candace, Linda then took her to get an eye exam ("Flop Starz"). Marty made a second appearance later, playing "Gitchee, Gitchee, Goo" on his blender to try and cheer Candace up after she mistakenly apologized to him for putting Perry the Platypus outside, thinking again that he was Phineas and Ferb. ("Oh, There You Are Perry")
  • A mouse who lives with Heinz. He loves cheese of course. He freed Perry twice from a trap. He once powered Heinz's machine and then attacks Heinz which he screams and Perry's glass trap broke. Also Perry sprayed cheese on a rope which the mouse comes and nibbles at it.
  • Peter the Panda, (not voiced) ,replaced Perry as Dr. Doofenshmirtz's nemisis in "All About Time". He does not "speak" in the whole episode. He may be in O.W.C.A.
  • Amanda (Jennifer Stone) Candace's oldest child in the future. She seems to act a lot like Candace. (Phineas and Ferb's Quantum Boogaloo)
  • Xavier Candace's future child. (Phineas and Ferb's Quantum Boogaloo)
  • Fred (Moises Arias) Candace's future child. (Phineas and Ferb's Quantum Boogaloo)

Phineas & Ferb's Age

In the episode "Phineas & Ferb's Quantun Boogaloo", it is implied Phineas & Ferb are 10. First off, they travel 20 years into the future. Secondly, their future mother says "My Phineas & Ferb are 30 years old now." And, quite clearly 30 - 20 = 10.

Orphaned references in List of characters in Phineas and Ferb

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of List of characters in Phineas and Ferb's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "AM1":

  • From Phineas and Ferb: Strike, Joe. "From Swampy & Dan Emerges Phineas and Ferb", Page 1". Animation World Magazine. Retrieved 2009-08-26.
  • From Rollercoaster (Phineas and Ferb): Strike, Joe. "From Swampy & Dan Emerges Phineas and Ferb", Page 1". Animation World Magazine.
  • From Dan Povenmire: Strike, Joe (2008-02-01). "From Swampy & Dan Emerges Phineas and Ferb", Page 1". Animation World Magazine.
  • From Phineas Flynn: Strike, Joe. "From Swampy & Dan Emerges Phineas and Ferb", Page 1". Animation World Magazine.

Reference named "podcast":

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 09:41, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Perry The Platypus

Not sure who it was but somebody has listed Frank Welker as Perry instead of Dee Bradley Baker. pretty sure it has been well established that Dee is the voice for Perry but I am not going to make the edit, I'll leave that up to the more experienced editors.--Nick4leader (talk) 17:53, 13 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed it a few days ago, so it now says Dee Bradley Baker.69.228.210.138 (talk) 21:31, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Additional Pages Needed, Soon

Additional Pages are becoming necessary for Candace Flynn, Ferb Fletcher, Heinz Doofenschmirtz, Perry the Platypus, Linda Flynn-Fletcher, and Isabella Garcia-Shapiro as well as a page for the growing list of Minor Characters appearing on the show. If anybody need a reason why, just look at the lengths of some of the infoboxes and the lengths of their articles in the list of Characters page. Depite their length, most of which contain quite vague information about the characters, Candace and Linda being the only exceptions. These articles are growing daily as this series is yet to complete its second season and a third even longer season is planned. While I have found a way to condense the infoboxes, the articles I cannot do anything about. Rhatsa26X (talk) 02:59, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

They will not get their own pages unless they have good reception. Just look at Phineas Flynn's article as an example. Almost every sentence is referenced. It is about to become a Good Article. Think about how you would make someone else's page look exactly like that. Blake (Talk·Edits) 12:21, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You know there is such a thing as overkill referencing, Phineas Flynn is such an example. For such a small article, it has nearly 40 references, and contains very vague information on the character that only watching the show will provide. Besides information is probably available for most of these characters, if anybody is willing to find it. Don't shrug it off until you try and don't remove information that can be verified by those who watch the show. This is NOT a Dictionary. Rhatsa26X (talk) 22:00 (UTC) / 18:00 (CDT), 19 October 2009
What are you talking about? His article has loads of information on his character. Just look at the "Character" section. Also, no, Wikipedia is not a Dictionary, but it is an Encyclopedia. Wikipedia is not an episode plot guide, and does not need excessive information on what Candice or Linda did in the future. Half of this article should be deleted. Most of this wouldn't even survive on a Wikia. Blake (Talk·Edits) 23:42, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Rhatsa, I believe you need to brush up on WP policy. There is no such thing as having too much refs. In fact, every article on Wikipedia is supposed to be referenced. This isn't a fan site - character articles are supposed to contain out-of-universe material and not just fictional biographies. I'd suggest reading WP:MOS and the policies listed at WP:TV. The Flash {talk} 02:35, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is becoming ludicrous people. All this started with what amounts to a simple request, but has been blown to the lengths of stupidity worthy of Doofenscmirtz himself. There was relevent information on the character page but someone wiped it out again, not only my work but many other's as well. It seems I am only getting this flak on this particular show when I have helped out with many others (i.e. Star Trek, Tiny Toon Adventures, Eureka, and many others) as well as started almost a thousand articles, both fiction and nonfiction, with only a handfull of problems, mainly early on. An explanation of what I do seems in order: Most of what I do is create the bare bones of an article, a stub if you will, so other Wikipedians can expand on what is there. Then I generaly tag the article with whatever group the article pertains to (i.e. WikiProject Television or WikiProject Indiana, which I am a member) and let that group take over the affairs and writing of that article. I seldomly get involved in the page after that. This page has become a very exceptional example. Although I didn't start the article, I did contribute heavily to it as ell as many others and most of the contibutions have been deleted.

So I will look for the information myself and start these articles myself. I plan to start this project in a couple of days with Ferb Fletcher and Candace Flynn. I will be against trying to delete it without trying to add to them, making them worthy of Wikipedia.

I don't like having to sound forceful but if not only does no one listen but make excuses and accusations, it becomes pointless to reason so
Discussion Closed: Any future discussion on this matter will now be discussed on the new character pages in a couple of days.
Rhatsa26X (talk) 22:18, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do not create those pages without reception or they will be redirected to this article. Wikipedia has a Notablity policy and doesnt allow articles for just anything. They have to be notable subjects referenced by Reliable Sources. Unless you find reception for these characters(Look at Phineas Flynn#Reception for an example) then these characters are not notable enough for a separate page. Also please remember what I said before. This article or any separate character article should not exist to tell everything the characters have done, and shouldn't consist of all "episode plot info". They should just describe the character's... character! Blake (Talk·Edits) 01:20, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Also, there's no fact that no one else wants to bother and do this - I've already been working on it. You're not listening to the clear fact that the rules state without sources for everything, the page will be deleted/redirected. It's policy, just listen to that, please. If you're going to create the page, source everything and focus on the production info and a lot less on the biography. This really is just the rules. The Flash {talk} 22:19, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well I tend to get to this page through just typing Ferb. Also when considering notability, Phineas and Ferb was recognized along with SpongeBob as far as current cartoon shows. I think there maybe enough here to pull them out to their own article. 70.165.110.211 (talk) 19:10, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The characters will definitely be notable, but only if production and/or reception is put in them. That's simply all it needs — plus refs of course — to sustain an article without getting reverted. The Flash {talk} 20:43, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Antagonist

Could Candace be considered the series main antagonist? I mean she bugs Phineas and Ferb. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.198.251.170 (talk) 13:54, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Candace does help the boys in a few episodes, could Dr. Doofenshmirtz be the antagonist? Then again, maybe this TV show doesn't really need an antagonist. BelieVerr (talk) 20:43, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I know. but usually, she's out to get them and seems to be pyschotic. doesn't that qualify? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.198.251.170 (talk) 02:53, 10 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Issues

I added extra tags, primarily becasue most of the character summaries are too long. For example, how is...

Phineas Flynn (voiced by Vincent Martella) is the protagonist of the series. Voiced by Vincent Martella and created and designed by Dan Povenmire, Phineas first appeared along with the rest of the series' main characters in the pilot episode "Rollercoaster." Phineas, along with his stepbrother Ferb Fletcher, star in each A-Plot of every episode. He appears to be 10 years old, though his age has never been directly confirmed. In one episode it is nearly confirmed he is 11. but this is not yet confimed. Phineas is a friendly and creative boy, inspired to make the summer as great as it can be by coming up with ideas for unusual, exciting, huge, and sometimes impossible activities from things of his everyday life: from TV commercials to random conversation topic. Phineas is also shown to have a wide array of musical abilities such as singing and songwriting and can play many different instruments. His stepbrother, Ferb, is his partner in their activities. He loves his sister Candace, generally being kind and friendly towards her, and often tries to please or help her, by putting her face on Mount Rushmore for her birthday, making her tree house better, or helping her learn how to drive. However, unwittingly, he usually accidentally upsets her with his schemes. He has a normal relationship with his mom and his stepdad. He often wonders about the whereabouts of his pet platypus Perry, unaware of his pet's double life. He is very nice to his friends. He also seems to be generally unaware that what he does might upset his parents. He appears to have a large crush on Isabella much like she has a large crush on him. The best instance in which Phineas showed he had a secret crush on Isabella was in the episode "The Chronicles of Meap Parts 1 and 2". When Phineas made a Cute Tracker, Isabella insisted that the interference was her. Phineas said it couldn't be her; it was later revealed that he had pre-programmed her cute-level into the the tracker so it wouldn't interfere, which lead Phineas to tell Isabella (indirectly) that she is the cutest thing/person in the world. Another time Phineas showed his crush for Isabella, was when he invited her onto a romantic cruise with him, from "That sinking feeling" A recurring theme is when people ask if he is too young to be working on his current project, to which he almost always responds, "Yes, yes I am." with pure honesty. It is noticed he could be ambidextrous because in the episode "Don't Even Blink" he plays guitar left-handed and right-handed. Phineas is also a little bit naive. In the original story pitch, it is said that Phineas is 9. However, Povenmire later stated that he and Ferb are "less than 15". In some episodes of Phineas and Ferb, Phineas is shown with blue eyes and, some episodes he is seen with black eyes. His catchphrase is "Ferb, I know what we're gonna do today". Another one of his catchphrases is "Hey, where's Perry?".

...meant to be a concise and accurate summary of the contents of Phineas Flynn? Instead it appears to be a rather rambling unreferenced plot summary --Pontificalibus (talk) 00:11, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well I pruned it a bit... --Pontificalibus (talk) 13:25, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yah, lists like this aren't big enough to tell everything they did. They are for describing their character. Who they are and what they do. Blake (Talk·Edits) 14:00, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I am new to wiki, but I tried to fix many issues on the page. see what you people think. Thanks! (talk)74.197.245.253 (talk) 01:17, 8 April 2010 (UTC) 01:22, 8 April 2010[reply]

Organization Without a Cool Acronym

When was that name stated? I may have just missed the episode, or maybe its a not-yet-aired one, but i don't remember that name ever being stated in the series. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TVtriviagirl (talk • contribs) 04:45, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It was mentioned in Phineas and Ferb: Summer Belongs To You! Isabella and Lego Liker Whatcha doin'? 16:47, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Candace Flynn" article

Shouldn't Candace get her own article like Phineas, Ferb, Perry, and Doof? I mean, she IS a main character. --66.206.126.189 (talk) 14:46, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, as long there are citations, we should also think one for Isabella, Linda, and Monogram as they have been in at least 75 episodes.69.228.210.138 (talk) 23:49, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(Straight from WP:Notability) - :Wikipedia covers notable topics - those that are "worthy of notice" and have been "noticed" to a significant degree by the world at large. A topic that is suitable for inclusion and has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article." The characters you have mentioned, that have articles, are notable because of this. Just look at their articles, and think "Could I find this stuff for so and so character?" They could possibly be able to have articles. We just need somebody to go out and find the information(from good sources). Blake (Talk·Edits) 02:26, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Candace's section goes off-topic

In the first paragraph, it goes off-topic "..., but in one episode she bust her two younger brothers after then she regret when she already bust her two brothers, before the episode ended it reveals that it is just Candace's dream, after then it reveal's as Perry' dream". This article is suppose to describe characters, not episodes. Should this be removed? --Hadger 23:46, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Adding approved images for the characters?

Should we put fan-style or TV-screen images of the characters so the viewer knows what they looks like for the characters except Phineas, Ferb, Candace, Linda, Lawrence, and Perry? What are your opinions? Isabella and Lego Liker Whatcha doin'? 02:42, 7 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thoughts about this?

Should we form Project PnF to have this page turned into a featured article and make all other PnF-realated pages (Ashley Tisdale, Alyson Stoner, Phineas Flynn, e.t.c.) to featured articles, but start at this page since it is in the worst condition? Ideas, thoughts, anything? Isabella and Lego Liker Whatcha doin'? 00:55, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think maybe a Task Force under WikiProject Disney is more appropriate. JDDJS (talk) 16:35, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A project focusing on the series started up a few weeks ago, so forget about what you said, and no, no, I didn't create it either. Isabella and Lego Liker Whatcha doin'? 03:11, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Character sections

Is it me, or does listing the characters according to the number of episodes they appear in just sound weird? I mean "Characters that are in at least 75 episodes"? Isn't that the same as "Main Characters"? I tried to revert it to that and fix all the sections like that, but someone reverted it back. 24.185.165.70 (talk) 15:35, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No one make modifications I did to the Candace section.

When I read that Candace was the main antagonist in the series, I thought to myself, "she is not an antagonist." So I started getting concerned and added, "though she is not viewed as an antagonist." Candace is more like Squidward from SpongeBob. And she is also a lot like Plankton from that show, though she isn't evil. Doofenshmirtz is the main antagonist, not Candace. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.171.183.4 (talk) 05:18, 30 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think she should be listed as an antagonist at all. --Confession0791 (talk) 06:07, 30 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

i think she is. the antagonist is angaisnt the main characters and phineas and ferb are the main characters., and since she hates them and is agaisnt htem she is the antagonist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.153.215.175 (talk) 02:02, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How does she hate them? Several episodes indicate the opposite. It seems like she's just worried about them doing dangerous things, annoyed that they repeatedly get away with it, frustrated at how powerless she is to stop them, and desperate to prove to her mother that she's not psychotic. Storylinewise, though, she is often pitted against her brothers, so she may be an antagonist in that sense.

POV Candace Flynn

We need to establish whether or not Candace is an antagonist. I always thought of Doofenshmirtz as the main antagonist. Btw, she does not hate her brothers. Confession0791 (talk) 01:02, 3 August 2010

sure. trying to pull your brothers face off means she doesnt hate them. yeah right.

Not if you think your brother's face is really a mask worn by his friend (I'm assuming that's the episode you're referring to). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.0.17.254 (talk) 20:34, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My thought: I have seen all 107 episodes that have aired worldwide and Candace has attempted to bust her brothers less than Doofenshritz. The only episodes where there is no Doof plan are "Isabella and the Temple of Sap"( he wasn't in it due to it being Poofenlpotz and Pinky), "Traffic Cam Caper"(Perry only went there to barrow Norm to destroy a video camera at the OWCA), "Get that Bigfoot Outta my Face!"( he was only waiting for a women at a house in the country near Camp Phineas and Ferb), and "Oh, There you are, Perry"(the main villian was the Regurgiator). Candace didn't bust her brothers in "Candace Losees Her Head"(the plan was for Candace on Mt. Rushmore), "Lawn Gnome Beach Party of Terror", "Flop Starz"(originally were going to bust them, but changed her mind thanks to Stacy and Jeremy), "Lights, Candace, Action!", "Get that Bigfoot Outta my Face!", "Mom's Birthday", "The Ballad of Badbeard", "Dude, We're getting the Band Back Together", "Ready for the Bettys", "The Best Lazy Day Ever"(The boys never built anything), "Put that Putter Away"(Stacy was suppose to bust the boys, but got caught in the fun), "Unfair Science Fair", "Hail Doofinia!", need to go on? Score Doof:4, Candace:12(season 1 alone). therefore Candace is the secondary one, Doof in the main one. Isabella and Lego Liker Whatcha doin'? 02:36, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree to that and have changed it. If there are no objections, it's settled. --Confession0791 (talk) 03:01, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

i object! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.153.215.175 (talk) 22:51, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Candace is not a antagonist by any means. Doof is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.170.220.15 (talk) 02:02, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Uh, yeah she is. Haven't you taken english class yet? The protagonist is the main character. Phineas is the protagonist. Ferb is the dueteragonist. The antagonist is the character agaisnt the protagonist and dueteragonist. Candace is agaisnt Phineas and Ferb and since they are the main characters, Candace IS by all means the main antagonist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.153.216.212 (talk) 21:54, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, she's not. Only Candace haters would think that. The show has 4 main charectors, which are featured in the 2 main plots, and Candace is one of them. She is not a bad guy, or "villain" by any means. There are quite a few episodes where she has a non-antagonsitic role, and not just the ones where she doesn't try to bust the boys. She could be a secondary antagonists by not the MAIN one. We had a discussion about this over on the P&F wiki. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.170.220.15 (talk) 01:40, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ballpit kid-Farmer and wife

I really don't feel these characters should be under recurring characters. These characters never have actually played any role at all in the plot. They do not appear in roles other than cameo. Just because there in many episodes does mean they can't be minor characters, especially when considering they never even give them names. JDDJS (talk) 21:11, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ballpit kid has been in more episodes than all of the other recurring and minor cast, except for Vanessa. The farmer and wife have spoke in every episode they have been seen, so it needs to be moved back due to this reason so there is not confusion on where the sections fall at. Isabella and Lego Liker Whatcha doin'? 22:21, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I won't argue about farmer and wife. But I have seen almost every episode of the show and I have no idea who the ballpit kid is. Just beacuse he appears in a lot of episodes doesn't mean he's not a minor character. He has not played any role in any episode other then just a random cameo. JDDJS (talk) 16:47, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The ballpit kid is a character who has saw Perry in I was a Middle-Aged Robot and had the best lemonade(in his POV) in The Lemonade Stand. Isabella and Lego Liker Whatcha doin'? 19:01, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't feel he is a recurring character, but if you show that other editors agree with you, I won't stop him from being moved. JDDJS (talk) 16:29, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

One episode characters

Do we really need to include characters that only appear in one episode? JDDJS (talk) 23:29, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Characters

Isabella is absent many episodes and often plays minor roles. Monogram only appears in one scene per episode. I can understand why Monogram is a a main character so I'll let that one stay. However, Isabella is simply a secondary character. She has too many episode absents and too many minor roles. JDDJS (talk) 03:32, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think either of them should be major characters. Phineas, Ferb, Candace, Perry, and Doofenshmirtz are the main characters. Also, I think the whole "Minor characters" section should be removed. Blake (Talk·Edits) 03:38, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Assuming you intentionally left her out, I feel that Linda should also be considered a main character. She is in almost every episode, and she plays pretty significant roles in the episodes. About Monogram, I agree with but I was willing to compromise. On the minor character sections, if you want to realist them under recurring characters thats fine, but most of them do belong in the article. --JDDJS (talk) 03:47, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
So you are saying that there are like 3 groups of 2 main charaters? Phineas and Ferb, Candace and Mom, and Perry and Doofenshmirtz? idk, Maybe. I just think a line needs to be drawn somewhere for MAIN characters. About the "Minor characters", the only notable one is the baby head because it has mention in an interview and actually appears in more then 2 episodes. The rest definitely have no place on Wikipedia. Blake (Talk·Edits) 03:55, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Farmer and Wife are also notable because they have reappeared in several episodes. The OWCA should probably be included on account that they are important to the story line. Albert is potentially notable because he appeared in 3 episodes and played a major role in 2 of those episodes. ==JDDJS (talk) 04:00, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The OWCA is not a character, and can probably be described in Major Monogram's section. The other characters do not appear enough to be a real "reoccurring character". They are not important to helping the reader understand the series. Blake (Talk·Edits) 13:56, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm fine with OWCA being merged into Monogram's and Perry's sections but I do feel Farmer and wife should be included somewhere. If not here then perhaps mention it as a recurring joke on the main Phineas Ferb page. JDDJS (talk) 01:25, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe you can make a “Minor characters” paragraph talking about some of the smaller reoccurring joke characters. Instead of a whole section with each character listed. Blake (Talk·Edits) 02:36, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That is perfectly fine with me--JDDJS (talk) 04:26, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fireside girls troop number

In the article the troop is given two different numbers: 246329 (Isabella's section) and 46231 (Fireside girls). Both have a comment reading "DO NOT CHANGE THIS, ISABELLA GOOFED UP IN "ISABELLA AND THE TEMPLE OF SAP".", which cannot be correct in both cases. According to the series' Wikia [1], the correct one is 46231, and Isabella's mistake was saying 46321, instead. I've checked the temple of SAP and it says 231. If someone has access to any of the chapters in which the correct troop number is mentioned, please, fix this info. Elideb (talk) 10:44, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That is correct---208.102.190.137 (talk) 23:38, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unverified race

There is no reason within Wikipedia's policies to accept this edit. You can reinstate the information if you find a reliable source (see WP:RS) for the information. JDDJS, you just successfully clinched a bunch of socks whose master tried to circumvent WP policies; you of all editors here should know what the guidelines are. It may seem trivial to you that I would remove precisely that information, but look at the tags on the page: it has to start somewhere. Get to work, find a reference, or acquiesce yourself to the fact that, as it says below this edit screen I'm looking at, "Encyclopedic content must be verifiable." Don't go to war over this. Drmies (talk) 00:10, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Read the plot summary of the episode Phineas and Ferb's Quantum Boogaloo, which by the way is a WP:Good Article JDDJS (talk) 00:18, 10 December 2010 (UTC)(edit conflict):Watch the episode Picture This. There is a Mexican Jewish Festival in the episode. There is a lot of original research on this page, but this is not one because it can be proven by watching the show. I have done many edits to help this page and have added many references, but this show is a kids show and therefor there are only so many references to add. There are certain things that the episodes should just service. JDDJS (talk) 00:16, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No, I don't have to read the plot summary: Wikipedia is not a source for Wikipedia. That there is such a festival, by the way, doesn't mean that some character is of that racial persuasion. (You could, of course, cite the source cited in that article, if there is one. If there isn't, it shouldn't be a GA.) And no, I am not going to watch the episode: there is a football game on TV tonight. Moreover, it wouldn't help, since even if you and I agree on what the show shows it's still original research. I appreciate what you have done for the article, but at some point you have to realize that you can only go as far as the (secondary and tertiary) references will allow: that's what it means to write a decent encyclopedia. The service Wikipedia should provide is not detailing every little unverified detail about something. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 00:24, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't get it. What is a better source than the actual show? It's not like it is just implied, it is specifically said in several episodes. Here's a source that may not be the best but at least it's something [2] JDDJS (talk) 00:30, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
See Wikipedia:No original research, and WP:PRIMARY. IMDB is generally not regarded as a reliable source. Please have a look; it will explain some of my comments. Drmies (talk) 01:55, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:IGNORE JDDJS (talk) 22:26, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is it actually said other then the fact that she went to a festival? If it is stated, then you can cite the episode. Blake (Talk·Edits) 23:36, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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