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December 20

Template:Education in Wales (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnecessary. No useful links. Links are to articles about the places rather than education in those places. Also, random links to Spain, US etc. Mhiji (talk) 23:41, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Segunda Divisão A (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Segunda Divisão B (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Segunda Divisão C (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Segunda Divisão D (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. Mhiji (talk) 23:36, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Racial demographics begin (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Racial demographics end (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Racial demographics Mixed (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Racial demographics Hispanic (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Racial demographics Black (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Racial demographics Islander (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Racial demographics Other (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Racial demographics White (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Racial demographics Asian (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Racial demographics Amerindian (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. Mhiji (talk) 21:55, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Contactme (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnecessary Mhiji (talk) 21:50, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Roscommon Senior Hurling Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

no navigation. 134.253.26.12 (talk) 20:38, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Cork Hurling Team of the Millennium (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

orphan. 134.253.26.12 (talk) 20:36, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Clare Hurling Team (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

orphan. 134.253.26.12 (talk) 20:30, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yunnan templates

Template:Chuxiong (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Dali (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Dehong (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Diqing (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Lijiang (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Lincang (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Nujiang (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Pu'er (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Wenshan (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused with links that are a subset of Template:Yunnan. 134.253.26.12 (talk) 20:24, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Group logo alias NOAA Commissioned Corps (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Group logo alias US Public Health Service Commissioned Corps (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Group logo alias US Public Heath Service Commissioned Corps (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, unnecessary. Mhiji (talk) 19:43, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Golden Horse Awards (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused navbox. Nearly all red links. Mhiji (talk) 19:41, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:South Park seasons (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused and could be replaced by a {{succession box}}. 134.253.26.12 (talk) 19:27, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:South Park location (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Category:South Park locations was deleted, template not in use. 134.253.26.12 (talk) 19:25, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:ScreenshotU (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

There is nothing close to an "automatic" entitlement to use screenshots in articles. While a generic rationale for infobox covers and logos and things in infoboxes may be useful, this template falsely implies that if you slap it onto non-free screenshots, they're fine to use. J Milburn (talk) 18:02, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Agreed that screenshots do not have as consistent a rational as cover images, and that users should take more care to write a proper working rationale. --MASEM (t) 18:17, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom, this template is misleading. Black Kite (t) (c) 18:30, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Blatant Delete for reasons stated above. I also find it humorous to find such cut/paste rationales; "The image meets general Wikipedia content requirements and is encyclopedic." ...and I guess because it's in a template that is automatic? It passes because you say it does? Same goes for "The image meets Wikipedia's media-specific policy". Back to the point; we don't allow screenshots for every episode article. There has to be more than a boiler plate rationale for including the image. A screenshot is not a title card, it's not a cover for the physical release of the work, etc. It's a sub element of the work, and not one associated with its wide distribution. There is no way in which this template can work. Note that this template is in use on several hundred images. If it's deleted, a lot of work will need to be done to tag the images with {{nrd}}, notifying uploaders, etc. That of course isn't a reason to not delete this template. --Hammersoft (talk) 18:38, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per the above. If we're going to use a screenshot, we need at least some more specific explanation of what elements in the shot explain why that particular shot has been chosen, what it reveals to the reader, etc. It needn't amount to very much -- our standards for accepting screenshots are comparatively inclusive, reflecting how limited the realistic copyright taking is, at least compared to some other images, such as eg historically important photos; in many cases it may not need much further to be added than just identifying what it is that the frame shows that is distinctive -- but nevertheless, there needs to be something that identifies what it is that is relevant about what is being shown; not just "illustrating the subject of the article", but showing what that helps the reader better understand the topic of the article. Jheald (talk) 21:10, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. I agree with Hammersoft that if the template is so widely used, it will make sense to proceed in some kind of managed way if/when the decision comes to delete it. Things that might help:
    (1) Notifying relevant wikiprojects now of this deletion discussion, if the template is being used for images on pages they have an interest in.
    (2) Perhaps mark the template as "deprecated, soon to be deleted" for a period, say 2 weeks, before it's actually deleted; with a corresponding message also under images on pages, to give some notice as to what's about to happen; before
    (3) the final deletion, and consequent roll-out of {{nrd}} on images where it still hasn't been replaced. Jheald (talk) 21:27, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Deprecate then delete, principally per Hammersoft and Jheald. Because it is so widely used, and the nature of the template implies that it is all that is needed for a fair use rationale, we could lose some very valuable images that are perfectly fine to use if we proceed recklessly. I propose a course of action similar to Jheald, but with a longer deprecation period of four weeks, during which time all new uses would be invalid (explicitly marking the template with the cut-off date). An effort to identify an active wikiproject for all cases where the original uploader is no longer active should be made. Thryduulf (talk) 16:41, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ISO639 style templates

Template:ISO639ANC (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:ISO639EXT (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:ISO639COL (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:ISO639CON (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:ISO639HIS (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:ISO639MAC (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:ISO639SPC (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Delete. Superseded by {{ISO 639-3 style}}. Unused. ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 08:28, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:TV_Patrol (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

The content of the template is already stated on the main page in a brief manner. User:Jeromesandilanico User talk:Jeromesandilanico 16:25, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Sissinghurst (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Another pointless navbox for a small village in Kent: Sissinghurst.

It is padded out with two redlinks, which should be removed per (WP:REDNOT, and with 4 separate links sub-sections to the article River Beult, for various apparently non-notable mills (no separate articles, so I assume consensus has been that they do not meet WP:GNG)

Apart from the river, there are two blue links to places: Sissinghurst Castle and Sissinghurst Castle Garden. We don't need a template to link those entities, and the rest of the links are all people: all of those links should be removed, because they are all either people connected with the castle, who are adequately linked to and from that article, or people who neither form a notable part of Sissinghurst's history nor does Sissinghurst form a part of their notability.

Strip away the irrelevancies, and we are left with 2 or 3 links. No need for the template. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:14, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Stuart Baird (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Navigates only three articles. WP:NENAN. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 04:14, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Vicky Jenson (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Navigates only three articles. WP:NENAN. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 04:14, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Frederik Du Chau (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Navigates only three articles. WP:NENAN. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 04:13, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Template:David Slade (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

WP:NENAN. Navigates only three articles. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 04:11, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]