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Typo

TYPO LAST PARAGRAPH* "She also added that album is completely finished." She also added that THE album... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.178.236.114 (talk) 13:45, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request

{{edit protected}} The title of the relevant section has been changed from "2010–present: Born This Way" to "2008–present: The Fame, The Fame Monster and Born This Way" ►Scarce ◄ 15:01, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done. ~Amatulić (talk) 16:20, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

{{edit protected}} The section title is now "2010–present: Born This Way". ►Scarce ◄ 23:00, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

updated — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:08, 28 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Moved from incubator

Has a consensus been reached that this can be moved to the mainspace? I see no evidence of a discussion. - eo (talk) 20:56, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Background

I shall not bother editing this page as of the current moment for it is highly likely that it shall be deleted. If anything is to go in the "background" section, I believe it should be transferred from Gaga's current Wiki page. Too much fancruft a la momenta. Stephenjamesx (talk) 23:38, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Once I get through it, the fancrufts will disappear like zat. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:18, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

THE RELEASED DATE ARE IN 2011....AND THE FIRST SINGLE IN FEBRARY OF 2011 =) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.1.246.135 (talk) 17:29, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I was reading, and found an article that said: that HELLO HELLO (the lady gaga song and Elton John) will be included in the albun .... but I'm not sure Escuchar Leer fonéticamente Diccionario - Ver diccionario detalladofrase0.this is0.you are —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.1.246.135 (talk) 17:32, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Second or Third studio album?

I don't get it?? She has said everywhere that Born this Way is her third studio album, yet we have already established TFM as an EP. Thoughts? --Cprice1000talk2me 01:24, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Take it to The Fame Monster page, and seriously, we have had enough of this discussion. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:18, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

if the lady herself calls it her third, then you can't get a more reliable source than that. Mister sparky (talk) 14:18, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is not about TFM, this is about what Gaga stated in a few videos. --Cprice1000talk2me 15:55, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Source? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 15:59, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

[1] --Cprice1000talk2me 16:05, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is kind of like the debate that was going on with Christina Aguilera. Although she and the media called Bionic (Christina Aguilera album) her fourth album, it is acutally her sixth studio album as her Christmas album and Spanish language album should be counted as such, even though the artist states differently. Facts are better. Candyo32 - Merry CHRISTmas :) 04:09, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So, what are you saying? --Cprice1000talk2me 13:49, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That TFM is an EP and consequently, BTW is her second studio album. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 14:47, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not according to GaGa herself. --Cprice1000talk2me 14:49, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Which is what Candy spoke about above boo, the horse's mouth is not always teh most reliable source unless multiple reliable sources note BTW as her third studio album. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 14:59, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Fame Monster is technically Gaga's second studio album, but it's classed as an EP due to length. I changed the lead to call this her "second full-length studio album", so hopefully the debate should die down a little now. –Chase (talk / contribs) 00:10, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from 68.224.21.176, 23 December 2010

this isnt fair change it now

68.224.21.176 (talk) 05:11, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not done Please provide a request. If you are talking about the article being semi-protected to stop IPs from disrupting it, no my dear, it is fair. Fair for the community, fair for the editors who are tired from reverting the fancrufts, vandalism etc. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:14, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chronology

Currently the chronology on this page goes:

The Fame (previous album)
Born This Way (this album)

The chronology on The Fame's page goes:

The Fame (this album)
The Fame Monster (next album)

The Fame article includes The Fame Monster in the chronology. I believe that should be the case on this article.

The Fame is GA article... shouldn't we be following an example of such calibre? I know that there's so much malarkey over The Fame Monster not being a "true" album, but it was her second major release and weighs VERY heavily on her success as an artist.

King regards,
Stephenjamesx (talk) 21:15, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

IP cruft, changing it back. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:01, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

it will relese

on gagas birthday 28 march — Preceding unsigned comment added by ליידי גאגא (talk • contribs) 22:17, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

---Source please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.39.34.193 (talk) 09:07, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Should this really be in the mainspace?

The first single hasn't even been released or even titled, there is no track listing, and there are only 11 references on here. This should be moved back to the incubator. --Cprice1000talk2me 03:54, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I completely heartily agree. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 03:57, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I asked above, as well as on the Talk Page of the editor who moved it to the mainspace (PinkFunhouse13 (talk · contribs)), where the discussion is located from which consensus was reached, and there has been no response. - eo (talk) 04:01, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And there will never be a response, seeing the bad-faith edits that this one does. If consensus forms, Eric, will you please move it back to the incubator? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:02, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, if consensus is to re-incubate, I'll move it. - eo (talk) 04:04, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, thanks! --Cprice1000talk2me 04:05, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lets see what others have to say. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:10, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree to re incubate...this article will get it's chance to become substantial but not now--Blackjacks101 (talk) 04:19, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agree to incubate. There was no consensus to move into mainspace, and no reason to do so now. Yves (talk) 04:42, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what PinkFunhouse13 was thinking, but it's not the first time. --Cprice1000talk2me 17:11, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I responded, give it a look. PinkFunhouse13 (talk) 01:28, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pinkfunhouse, you responded what and where? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:48, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Her talk page --Cprice1000talk2me 04:49, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Aww, did she respond as to what made her suddenly decide to move teh Incube article? Or did Christmas come early for her? :P — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:12, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

LMAO She told me off.... not sure why --Cprice1000talk2me 05:13, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, in all seriouslness we need to achieve a consensus here regarding what to do with this one, to move it back or keep it now. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 08:55, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Devil's advocate question — if this is going back to bake in the oven longer, at what point will it be ok for the mainspace? e.g. how many sources will be considered enough? I'm asking because this particular artist, with this particular release, will reach a fucking fever pitch leading up to the release date. I expect there to be a ton of hype and (reliable) press coverage way before it sees the light of day, and I don't think it's going too far out on a limb to guess that this album will be notable enough for mainspace-inclusion well before its street date. I'm certainly one to slam the brakes down on 99.99999% of these pre-emptive pop-music jumping-the-gun pre-release articles, but in this particular scenario we do have a somewhat decent-sized article already with more sources than many already-released album articles have. I'm not saying it has to stay in the mainspace, but are there any thoughts on just maintaining it here and building it up, keeping a close eye on it? - eo (talk) 14:03, 1 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That we are already doing Eric. Point is, she bloody announced the release date!!! I hate taht its still 5 months away and the cumbersome edits are only gonna increase. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:45, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And you know what? She's been through with the album since around October. :( But anyway, I'm not sure about this page anymore. I think it is still technically not notable without a track listing. WP:NALBUM But maybe all the information in the article sustains it, now that we have a release date. --Cprice1000talk2me 15:32, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And Lego, it's OK. Almost every track from the album has leaked on YouTube :P --Cprice1000talk2me 15:33, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Release date: 5/23/11

http://twitter.com/ladygaga Bruce Campbell (talk) 05:09, 1 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

-Yes, and the editor made a little mistake: the album is due on May 23, 2011. Not May 23, 2010. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.82.62.11 (talk) 16:33, 1 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

MTV says "her third album"

See the article Lady Gaga Announces Release Dates For Born This Way, First Single, where MTV say And at midnight, the singer tweeted that her third album will be released in stores on May 23. --NicolásTM (talk) 04:33, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ya, so? Born This Way is her third album, but second studio album.

— Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:43, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Picture

The cover of the 'Born This Way' album has been revealed so shouldn't there be a picture of it on here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.31.174.29 (talk) 18:17, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, it hasn't been revealed yet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.43.135.215 (talk) 22:18, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It definitely 100% has look it up on Google or something.

First Single...

--91.154.103.148 (talk) 13:13, 5 January 2011 (UTC) Why is it TBA for the first single, it has been confirmed already by Gaga herself on twitter that Born This Way is the first single and it will be released in february!![reply]

Proof please. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 15:09, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.theroundtableonline.com/2011/01/lady-gaga-announces-born-this-way-single-date-and-album-release/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.43.252.22 (talk) 20:34, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it has been confirmed, the new single is Born This Way, the title track of the album. Keep up.