User:Litev

This is formal list, but implementing more books in this mod surely reckons shorter time to be spent reading them... I suggest that two main libraries should be spread throughout Europe - The Forbidden Books (Apocrypha) and the Orthodox Books (Codex Vaticanus). Apocrypha Corpus Aristotelicum - any of them requires high Inteligence to speak Greek language to be read. May be some companion as a teacher in greek language... Should bear in mind that the clergy was reluctant to anybody reading them, so the books should be obtained in more difficult fassion - stolen, bought as blackmarket stock, found in chests in villages or remote castles. So the Corpus Aristotelicum colud be some kind of apocrypha, unlike the mass monastery production of the age, sold by book sellers...

Organon is the name given by Aristotle's followers, the Peripatetics, to the standard collection of his six works on LOGIC. - obtaining and reading all six of them may grant some considerable bonus to Right to Rule and relations with Vassals. Actually a lot latin translations (through Arab) were present by the day so this could be made easier to achieve.
- Categoriae
- De Interpretatione
- Analytica Priora
- Analytica Posteriora
- Topica
- Sophistical Refutations (De Sophisticis Elenchis)

It may be a quest in six steps, Obtaining the Organon, as any step should give a clue for the next one.

Aristotle's book Ars Rhetorica, in Greek (ΤΕΧΝΗΣ ΡΗΤΟΡΙΚΗΣ) may grant some considerable bonus to Persuation skill.

Aristotle's Metaphysics (τὰ μετὰ τὰ φυσικά) is considered to be overlapped by Logica Organon so it could not be included in this mod compendium.

Aristotle's Politika (Πολιτικά) - The title of the Politics literally means "the things concerning the polis", so it could add to the Right to Rule.

Aristotle's Peri Poetika (Περὶ ποιητικῆς) - A basic humanitarian skill of Creation. May suit the poems learned and the womanizing affairs...
Aristotle's Physics (the study of nature) - No idea how this could be useful to the gameplay. Anyway, all of us here have read it some way or another so we are more interested in what comes after the physics, right...

Rituel Cathare de Lyon - If you yearn for Cathar heresy to be implemented and an Albighensian crusade scheduled. The book is to be found only in Lyion
Liber de duobus principiis - If you yearn for Cathar heresy to be implemented and an Albighensian crusade scheduled. The book is to be found only in Albi.

BOOKS written up to 12th / 13th century (sold by legitimate merchant, Codex Vaticanus)

Liber Abaci is a historic book on arithmetic by Leonardo of Pisa. My add to Trade skill, but actually was written later - in 1202.
Carmina Burana is the name given to a manuscript of 254 poems and dramatic texts from the 11th or 12th century. The pieces were written almost entirely in Medieval Latin; a few in Middle High German, and some with traces of Old French or Provençal. Could add to Party morale, especially if you decide that a penalty on multicultural parties should be executed.
Daretis Phrygii Ilias De bello Troiano ("The Iliad of Dares the Phrygian: On the Trojan War") is an epic poem in Latin, written around 1183 by Joseph of Exeter. - may be considered as matter of ideology to "the fled western troians" to undertake the Holy Journey of Fourth crusade... The same with Historia destructionis Troiae. How exactly will effect the game - still no idea...
Chronicon Roskildense a small Danish historical work from the time of the introduction of Christianity in Denmark. Written in Latin. reading it may improve relations with kingdom of Denmark. Sold only in Roskilde, ok?
De Gesta Francorum et aliorum Hierosolimitanorum ("The deeds of the Franks and the other pilgrims to Jerusalem") is a Latin chronicle of the First Crusade written in circa 1100-1101 by an anonymous author connected with Bohemund I of Antioch. May bias some relations with Sicily, Toulouse, Lothringen and France or add to the Crusade zeal if such is planned to be implemented...
Historia Caroli Magni or Historia Karoli Magni et Rotholandi (History of the life of Charlemagne and Roland), sometimes known as the Pseudo-Turpin Chronicle, is a 12th century Latin forged chronicle of legendary material about Charlemagne's alleged conquest of Spain. The chronicle states it was written by Turpin, Archbishop of Reims, the work was extremely popular throughout Medieval Europe. Suggests higher realtions with France, lower with all iberian kingdoms including Navarre, should add to the Right to Rule. To be bought anywhere, but received free of charge in Reims.
The Historia Regum Britanniae (English: The History of the Kings of Britain) is a pseudohistorical account of British history, written c. 1136 by Geoffrey of Monmouth. It chronicles the lives of the kings of the Britons in a chronological narrative spanning a time of two thousand years, beginning with the Trojans founding the British nation and continuing until the Anglo-Saxons kings. effects : Improved relations with English and King Lackland personally...
The Historia ecclesiastica gentis Anglorum (in English: Ecclesiastical History of the English People) is a work in Latin by Bede Venerabilis on the history of the Christian Churches in England and the conflict between Roman and Celtic Christianity. Written year 731. Orthodox, tolerated by clergy. Effects : improved relations with Pope (or any Archbishop till Conclave of Moddders elects one).
Sic et Non, an early scholastic text whose title translates from Medieval Latin as "Yes and No," was written by Pierre Abélard (1079 – April 21, 1142). In the work, Abélard juxtaposes apparently contradictory quotations from the Church Fathers on many of the traditional topics of Christian theology. May be considered heretic, though part of the Codex Vaticanus. Effects : Decreases relations with pope / Archbishops and bishops, improves realtion with lords and especially LADIES.
Nicetae Choniatae Historia - actually in twenty-one volumes, of the period from 1118 to 1207. Niketas was chancellor of the Byzantine empire. The book could add to the international relations, especially Rhomania, as you called it. May be considered to be an anti-crusade reading...
Alexiada by Anna Komnena, the history of her father's Alexios life and reign (1081–1118). Effects : Right to Rule.

Organon of Logic. Scholastic quest - general idea and storyline This adventure implies the evolution of the medieval mind as an early rennaissance of greek thought througth arab translations. It turned to be quite popular way of combining academic way of thinking/research and the official ecclesiastical dogma of the clergy. Scholasticism is widely based on the intellectual tradition of ancient works of Aristotle and Plato. Organon is the name given by Aristotle's followers, the Peripatetics, to the standard collection of his six works on LOGIC. Retrieving these manuscripts would not tolerated by church as it reveals that Mastermind was present even before the Savior came to birth. But completing this quest could be prerequisite for the writing of Thomas Aquinas' Summa Theologica - the fundamental work that saved the Papism and clergy till Luther published some questionnaires...

I think that any of the six step-books should grant some bonus and cause some penalty, as this will not make any of them look to valuable. But the player should be motivated by the dialogues that retrieving all six of them will summon "a powerfull artifact", The Organon collection. The number 6 (SIX) is diabolique, Aristotle was considered to be too... But the player should be enlightened with a considerable and eternal reward, as knowledge is.

My idea of the quest is to present the Aristotle's gnosticism - every step shall present a book and its level of ideas. So to enlighten the player too. Mystique!

My idea with Apocrypha implies high intelligence of Character or greek interpreting Companion (Basileos Akritas). With Organon quest it may be omitted as it turns to be a longer quest. But it is not unwise - these books were already translated by arab almohad scholars and were circulating in Europe, especially as the Library of Toledo had been taken by Castillians without burning it to the ground on May 25, 1085.

Plot#1 Roman scholastics Step 1. So the quest could be ordered by any Dominican priest (known as Order of Preachers till 1216, when renamed to Dominicanis). He may be a companion, tavern visitor, monk and is to become the Thomas Aquinas' mentor years later. Such a guy was Robert Grosseteste (1175 – 1253), English statesman, scholastic philosopher, theologian and after 1225 - a Bishop of Lincoln. His name means Big headed and one should be as he is of peasant origin. By 1200 Master Grosseteste was judge-delegate in Hereford, Kingdom of England. Visiting this place may trigger the quest. As any magistrate Master Grosseteste should be easilly approachable - from the castle menu, as the guildmaster of any city is. If not - he was Master of the School of Oxford after 1208, so you can look for him there too, waiting to be appointed. The Dominican will ask you for an "unofficial favour" - to retrieve for him five books "...as this one, which you can take to use for comparison." Accepting the quest adds the first book of the Organon to your inventory - The Categoriae. This is decreasing by 1 the realtion with Hereford/Oxford, but reading the book (which should be faster than in Native) should make a small bonus. Or even better - just keeping it in inventory could improve Party morale by 1... The idea of Aristotle's Categoriae is about description of what actually happens in the game levels - classification of all that exists. These categories consist of substance, quantity, quality, relation, place, time, situation, condition, action, and passion.

Step 2. It could be a very easy one. If you had already recruited Basileos Akritas he could recognize the scribings and show grant you the second part - Perihermenias, part of his heirloom that he had previously saved runing from Seljuks. But the book should be read a.k.a translated as Basileos is under arms. If he begs his leave for good and the book is <100% read the quest fails. As long as the book is translated you can change its name to On Interpretation (Latin:De Interpretatione). It contains Aristotle's principal contribution to philosophy of language. Exactly what the book is about and what the player actually did with it! A bonus for this could be either more party morale or significant clue where book 3 is.

Step 3. Book 3 is called Prior Analytics (Latin: Analytica Priora). It is about inductive thinking and syllogism as "a discourse in which, certain things having been supposed, something different from the things supposed results of necessity because these things are so." This idea implies that having read and understood this book the player should SUPPOSE where the next one is, but will find it nevertheless

Plot#2 Almohad scholars This could be an alternative trigger for the quest - if the player never enters Hereford/Oxford. The first almohad lord the player meets can send you to this setllement, ibn Batuta may do this too. Or even act as master Grosetest and give you the same dialoge and the first book.

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