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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Cirt (talk | contribs) at 23:07, 24 January 2011 (Intro size: new section). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Former good article nomineeThe Profit (film) was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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DateProcessResult
December 22, 2007Good article nomineeNot listed

My edit listing who the main characters were based on

My edit listing who the main characters were based on was reverted as it was "WP:OR and POV interpretations of who cast represent". I'm not sure if Cirt saw the movie, but the characterizations are thinly veiled. It's not an interpretation when it is made to be super obvious. Zach Carson, for example, is based on Jack Parsons. The name is barely changed. The "Babalon Working" is now the "Caliban Working". Carson put in $20,000 instead of Parson who put in $21,000 into selling sailboats. Legend has Parsons evocating Bartzabel to summon a typhoon in retribution, in the movie Carson evoked Satan. How obvious does it have to be not to be considered POV? Chiok (talk) 02:29, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a source to back up your personal interpretations into the film's plot? If not, this is your own WP:OR interpretations of the film - which does not belong in the plot section, or anywhere in the article for that matter, as it is unsourced. Cirt (talk) 05:22, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Moved some info to talk page

The producers of the film had a court hearing on March 5, 2007 to ask that the injunction on the film's distribution be lifted.[1] On April 7, 2007, attorney Luke Lirot announced on the official website for The Profit that "We have absolutely no exposure for any repercussions from the court order."[2] Lirot also stated that there was still an impediment to the film's release, writing "all that's stopping the release of the movie is the legal battle with the partner who was compromised by Scientology (Robert Minton) and is currently using his power as partner to stop the release of the film."[2]

The complete film was leaked to the Internet in late March 2008, and in response Thomas H. McGowan, attorney for Bob Minton, sent a letter to Luke Lirot.[3] In his March 24, 2008 letter, McGowan wrote: "To say the least, I was astonished to learn that in spite of our correspondence, and in spite of what I know of your understanding of the misuse of proprietary materials to be, a complete version of the film 'The Profit' is now streaming on the internet."[dead link][3] McGowan asserted: "I am not persuaded in the least that the direct responsibility for what has happened lies anywhere but directly at Mr. Alexander's feet."[3] McGowan requested that Alexander take action to remove the film from the Internet.[3] Luke Lirot responded to McGowan's letter on March 26, 2008, and wrote: "In response to your latest letter, I can unequivocally state that my people (Mr. Alexander and his affiliates) had absolutely nothing to do with the unauthorized distribution of the film "The Profit" and we have gone to great lengths to stop any further transmissions."[4] In his letter Lirot asserted "... my people believe it was either Mr. Minton, or one of his agents, who posted the film illegally, in order to give some manufactured or false grounds for some type of adverse actions or action against my client, so that Minton can fulfill his presumed agreement with the Church of Scientology to find any means whatsoever to 'harass and destroy utterly' his former 'partner,' Mr. Alexander, as is the policy of the entity whom my people believe is your actual client, the Church of Scientology."[4]


Some of the above links are now dead links. Moved some info to talk page, pending further research. -- Cirt (talk) 18:44, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Intro size

diff = this edit by Laval (talk · contribs) is inappropriate. Per WP:LEAD, the intro/lede should be able to function as a standalone summary of the entire article's contents, including every single subsection of the article. Please, do not do this again without discussion on the talk page. Thank you, -- Cirt (talk) 23:07, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ Film producers (February 22, 2007). "Dear PROFIT Fans". Official Web site, The Profit. Retrieved 2007-11-01.[dead link]
  2. ^ a b Lirot, Luke (April 7, 2007). "Latest Legal Updates". The Profit Legal Updates. theprofit.org. Retrieved 2007-11-10.[dead link]
  3. ^ a b c d McGowan, Thomas H. (March 24, 2008). "Scientology/ Minton Letter" (PDF). Hosted at website for The Profit. www.theprofit.org. Retrieved 2008-04-02.[dead link]
  4. ^ a b Lirot, Luke (March 26, 2008). "Attorney Luke Lirot responds" (PDF). Hosted at website for The Profit. www.theprofit.org. Retrieved 2008-04-02.[dead link]