Talk:Perfect Blue

Article quality lacking

Anime films are films like live action films, and I feel that the quality of anime film articles has a tendancy to be lacking, thus I hope to have some people who are film buffs unexposed to anime subculture take a look at the quality of these articles. --Neilworms 15:56, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Good luck... Brutannica 01:27, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree. Frankly I think it is a total croc that the animated medium, after the last two decades especially, is still viewed as a "children's medium". That is a crok. All growd up and ...whatever. And I thought that line of thinking was only prevalent among people who despised foreign films. I guess I was wrong. 'all growd up.' huh? The pretenciousness is every where. Never mind that even cartoons in the US have jokes that only adults would get. Maybe so parents can watch with their kids? But even animation from Japan has its films that are aimed strickly not at a children's audience. It will just have to be up to fans of the animated medium themselves to write the better quality articles. There's a lot of them, and many are quite talented. No reason they cannot write the articles themselves. Forget hollywood and their prefabricated blockbusters. "This summer's blockbuster". What?!? It hasn't even come out yet! It cannot be a blockbuster by definition until it sells, sells, sells tickets gallor. duh. Advertising to sell the movie, regardless of quality. No wonder people turn to alternatives like anime and foreign films for a 'quality movie experience' or something that seems new and interesting. VeriGGlater 11:11, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

O.K., even I'm not that bitter. Brutannica 03:35, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Bitter? What do you mean? Please elaborate. Maybe it's bitterness at the corporate war criminals that run the US and the world with image? Image also tricks us into believing it is merely a Bush/Cheney anomoly. And the bitterness comes out here? Sell, sell, sell. Isn't just about making a quick buck. Death in Iraq is a 'logical' result of the make a quick buck mindset also shown in "Confessions of an Economic Hitman". Scantily clad Hollywood idols are the other side of phoney macho militarism. Nudes for war. Look there and pay no attention to the man behind the screen. It's not just cheap entertainment. Nothing against nudity. I'm sure you know, Janet Jackson's mammory gland was not the perversion. Twisted bodies and severed limbs are. War, global empire, and corporate rule are. Turn off the television. The 'white picket fences' life "style" is an eternal false image. It never existed, except for a relative few. Maybe us with internet access. We live in the time of the 4th reich. Witness concentration camps in Guantanimo, which the same US gov'ts supported in fascist regime after fascist regime in the so-called "third world". Perhaps it is fitting that this is under the talk for Perfect Blue. It's been almost a decade since I watched it only once. But doesn't it have to do with the image as well? Have a nice day. VeriGGlater 12:33, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Um... not sure how to respond to this one. I think you've already proved my point. But we're getting off-topic here: this is supposed to be a discussion regarding the article itself. Brutannica 19:00, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Like they say, "if you aren't angry, you aren't paying attention" 67.53.78.15 02:11, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 16:32, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

John and Peter

huh... who are John and Peter? "Mima's world becomes increasingly reminiscent of the works of John and Peter". First we have no link to another Wiki article which could explain it to me, but the article also doesn't talk at all about this... So why is it here in the first place? Who are they and what's their link with this film? Thank you to edit the article appropriately! :) --BahaFura (talk) 20:53, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Ref material

" Satoshi Kon's "Perfect Blue" (1997) leaves the boy's adventure archetypes behind; its main influences would seem to be David Lynch and Michelangelo Antonioni. Like Mr. Lynch's recent "Mulholland Drive," the film is a study in mutable realities and dissolving identities, with an actress as the central figure: Mima Kirigoe is a moderately successful pop singer who hopes to move into an adult career as a dramatic performer. But her dreams are dashed when an alternate Mima appears, who — wearing the pigtails, pink hair ribbons and tutu that were Mima's trademarks — begins brutally murdering the advisers who are supervising her transition to womanhood. Mima's evil twin embodies the innocent, super-cute girlishness that the Japanese call shojo (series like "Sailor Moon," or the products in the Hello Kitty line of children's toys, illustrate the concept in all its bubblegum-pink glory). Within the context of a psychological thriller, Mr. Kon explores the crisis of Japanese women entrapped by the crippling shojo image, which is seen as spreading its pernicious influence over several generations. "Perfect Blue," which also contains some brilliantly executed expressionistic imagery of Tokyo at night, is one of the rare anime to venture into overt social criticism; in a medium that relies on the shojo image for much of its male appeal, the gesture is quite radical and courageous, though the film ultimately retreats into a disappointingly pat thriller."

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/20/movies/20KEHR.html --Gwern (contribs) 13:08 25 August 2010 (GMT)

Requiem for a Dream

I think I discovered the source of the frequently repeated but miscited meme about Darren Aronofsky paying to use a Perfect Blue scene in Requiem for a Dream. In Satoshi Kon's blog, he notes that the budget of Aronofsky's Pi was at an independent-film level of about 6 million yen. Someone seems to have badly misinterpreted Kon's words to mean that Aronofsky paid US$58,000 (roughly Pi's budget) to use a Perfect Blue scene in Requiem for a Dream. I'm removing that miscited statement from the article. 1-54-24 (talk) 20:38, 31 January 2011 (UTC)