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Plz notice... We came as Romans has definitely to be classified as Post-Hardcore, not as Metalcore, there is a little diffrence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.149.84.169 (talk) 18:07, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]



You are missing a former member Mark the old vocalist. Mark gone, dave from guitar to vocals, lou joins guitar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.112.35.71 (talk) 14:18, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

More Info

If you have something to share about the band put it here. Please add more stuff and try to refrain from removing stuff.

Creditability

Can we let this page be, I worked real hard on it. If anyone has anything to add please add it, but don't delete it. If something should be fixed let me know and I will work on it quickly.

Then you need to explain why they are notable and worthy of an article on Wikipedia. Read Wikipedia:Notability (music) for the criteria to be met. NtheP (talk) 21:47, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, i was unaware of that, i am working to fix that. . Give me some time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gart99 (talk • contribs) 21:52, 28 October 2009 (UTC)<> [reply]

Am i getting close? I feel that it should stay. They are signed to a big name record company and a big name producer and are well known in the hardcore/christian music world. And november 3rd they will have one album and two EPs out.

Well thats about all i can think of, feel free to edit it on your own. I am new to this so the formating might be off a little. If someone would like to remove the speedy deletion thing that would be great. If you dont feel like it should be removed please share your concerns.

"Christian Band Debate"

This really should be re-written...

They are not a Christian band yet spends a significant amount of time talking about love and hoping people change the way they act because of it.[1] When asked if they were a Christian band, their guitarist replied, ""We have Christian dudes in our band and we have non-Christian dudes in our band, and as a whole, we're not a Christian band. We definitely get it, but we also get it a lot because our music, as a whole, has a positive message to it, and there aren't a whole lot of bands with a positive message who aren't Christian bands. Typically, its just Christian bands who promote a positive message. Just because we have a message, and its not about killing each other, we get the Christian band tag.[2]"

Genre war.

What is going on here?!?!?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by DCcomicslover (talk • contribs) 19:09, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm also seeing this from my recent changes patrol. They might well be emo-pop beloved of scene kids. To the anonymous users putting this information up: if this is so, let's have some citations and less argumentative, non-encyclopedic text to support it. --Slashme (talk) 17:31, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Emo, pop music... oh please, obvious troll is obvious.86.160.119.135 (talk) 06:10, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, they are emo pop. Classifying them as "post-hardcore" - i.e. same genre as Fugazi, Helmet and Jesus Lizard - is a crime against music history, and might very well be seen as trolling - if that's what you meant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.68.27.112 (talk) 14:41, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You're an idiot.86.160.168.196 (talk) 07:00, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Then let's get a compromise going here. Use the genre Screamo which, by definition, draws aspects from Post-Hardcore, and from Emo, and keep the Metalcore genre, which incorporates the hardcore punk aspect. Those two genres would be the most accurate, after doing a little research on what Post-Hardcore actually is, I agree it doesn't describe this band, or most bands grouped into this genre. --Fbifriday (talk) 07:13, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the genres of "Post-Hardcore" bands

After a discussion regarding the genre war taking place on this page, I believe a greater discussion needs to take place regarding the genre listing of bands grouped in the "Post-Hardcore" genre. After looking into the genre a bit, mostly through Wikipedia's own page on the subject, it appears that most bands listed in the [category] are not actual traditional post-hardcore groups. While I understand that genres adapt and change over time, I believe there are much better terms that can be applied to such bands, for instance, Screamo and Metalcore, which incorporates many of the styles used by these types of bands, much better than the post-hardcore genre. However, because many of these bands reject the "screamo" label, the standard has been to place the bands into the post-hardcore category, which is ultimately, I believe, the incorrect one. Certain bands accept the screamo tag, and if a band that is definitely in the screamo band category acknowledges they are a screamo band, should a band that rejects the label, although they have the same musical style, be grouped into a different category?

Summary: If Band A with musical style c is genre y, wouldn't that make Band B with musical style c a genre y artist, even though they claim to be in genre z? And thus, shouldn't we label such bands as genre y, to bring all bands with the same musical style into the same genre on wikipedia?--Fbifriday (talk) 08:34, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ http://www.antimusic.com/news/09/sep/25We_Came_As_Romans_Debut.shtml WCAR at ANTIMUSIC
  2. ^ http://www.noisecreep.com/2009/11/12/we-came-as-romans-christian
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