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Older discussion

The comparison to pediatric medicine was in fact quite apt: the patient can't speak, and the doctor must get any information about symptoms from the adult responsible for the patients. Pediatric human doses and animal doses are also similar, as they are based on body weight, which is not generally the case in adult medicine. --- Someone else 22:25 22 May 2003 (UTC)

Hi Guanaco, Please do not remove large chunks of information from an article without discussing why. If you think that a list of schools of veterinary medicine is inappropriate, please discuss this here first. Or you could have started a new article Schools Of Veterinary Medicine --- Cheers, Jurriaan 08:52, 10 Apr 2004 (UTC)

New templates

I created and installed new templates to Veterinary Practitioners and Veterinary Specialties. Thier are two articles in the Veterinary Specialties section that have yet to be created. Have fun with them if you want to create them. --Admiral Roo 03:08, July 11, 2005 (UTC)

Veterinary Informatics

Given that veterinary informatics has it's own article, would anyone mind if we removed this section from this article? Veterinary Informatics is much more about practice management than it is about medicine. Edwardian 3 July 2005 04:22 (UTC)

I have removed the above section which contained the following: "Veterinary informatics is the application of information technology to healthcare. Most vet clinics now utilize software for practice management systems to control scheduling and billing of clients, tracking of inventory and automation of lab results. Additionally, many clinics are working towards becoming computerized for electronic patient records." A link to veterinary informatics is contained within the article. Edwardian 05:21, 4 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Applicants: veterinary school vs. medical school

The article currently states: "Admission into veterinary medical school is competitive. According to the US Department of Labor, 1 in 3 applicants was accepted into a veterinary program in 2002. (Compare this with human medical school statistics of 1 in 2 applicants accepted, keep in mind however that human medical school acceptances have an average GPA of 3.7 and the acceptance rate per medical school is lower than that of vet schools)." The portion in bold was recently added without reference or citation.

The DOL reference regarding veterinary applicants can be found here: [1].
Regarding veterinary schools: The lastest report from the Association of American Veterinary Medical Colleges indicates 2,576 matriculants (mean GPA 3.53)[2][3] - no information on number of total applicants. Another website reported 6,695 applicants (mean GPA 3.42), 2,301 matriculants (mean GPA 3.62)[4] - these are probably 1999 figures. The same website indicated that each applicant files 3.65 applications and veterinary schools receive 10.62 applications per position.
Regarding medical schools: The latest report from the Association of American Medical Colleges indicates 35,735 applicants (mean GPA 3.47), 17,662 accepted, 16,648 matriculants (mean GPA 3.62)[5][6].

I found no data to support the recently added assertions that "human medical school acceptances have an average GPA of 3.7" or that "the acceptance rate per medical school is lower than that of vet schools". It does appear that those applying to and entering medical school do have a slightly higher GPA, but that admissions into veterinary school are more competitive (as the article stated in its previous incarnation). Edwardian 06:39, 10 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Could someone please make the discussion about comparing medical vs. veterinary school admissions more concise? I have lived in two states, Michigan, and California. In both there were many medical schools and only one veterinary school. Doesn't this fact alone mean that vet schools admissions are more difficult? Is this the result of boards of medicine limiting the numbers?

- No, it doesn't. There are fewer clown schools than there are veterinary schools, but I don't think clown school is more competitive than vet school. Competitiveness is a vague term, anyway. Certainly there is a lower acceptance rate to vet school than med school, and this fact is relevant. However, it might also be relevant to consider the qualifications of the applicants. If a higher number of less qualified individuals apply for vet school, does that make it more or less competitive? I'm not sure this question is important, but let's be concrete about whatever data we include.

I once remarked to my dentist that I was considering relocating to California as had one of my colleagues had done, submitting her nursing school transcripts, and board scores, (nationally administered, and when I was licensed passing score was 350--except California and New York where it was 450), and being licensed under most state nursing boards' reciprocity policy. My dentist remarked that he could not move to California, since the board of dentistry in that state decided that there were too many dentists there already.--W8IMP 15:05, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Income?

If we are comparing human vs. animal physicians, shouldn't there be some compaof the cost of their educations (including the amount of government subsidies at the colleges) and relative incomes?--W8IMP 15:05, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

UK Schools

Why does the list of UK vet schools warrant placement on this page while all the others are relegated to Schools of veterinary medicine? 24.210.140.97 11:26, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've moved it to veterinary school. As for why, simply because that's where the person who decided to add the info decided to put it. See Wikipedia:Who writes Wikipedia. --Quiddity 18:57, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Veterinary medicine overhaul

I've overhauled Template:Veterinary medicine (formerly {{Veterinary Practitioners}}) to include all the related "See also" links, from various veterinary articles. Please feel free to correct/improve anything in it (ordering, subheaders, additions, etc), and add it to appropriate articles. Thanks. --Quiddity 18:57, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why having 3 pages? Veterinary medicine, Veterinarian, and Veterinary surgeon??

Shouldn't we combine these 3, and retain the best of it??--Northerncedar (talk) 01:26, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes and no. The veterinarian and veterinary surgeon articles need to be combined. The Vet medicine article needs to cover all aspectz, with veterinarian-specific info merged into the vet article. I'm doing that right now. :) Skittleys (talk) 10:40, 19 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

U.S Centric

This is the most U.S biased article I've read to date with statements such as "A shortage of veterinarians who treat farm animals is stressing the nation's food inspection system." It doesn't even specify which nation!!!! I plan on editing this article as soon as possible to make it less biased and to be more inclusive of aspects of the veterinary profession in other nations, (as soon as I finish studying for my vet exams), and I strongly encourage anyone else out there to do so. We can't have self obsessed yanks ruining wikipedia, if you look to the left hand corner there's a picture of the whole world not just America!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.174.244.161 (talk) 04:24, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This article reads like a "how to become a veterinarian" ad. Surely the focus here should be on the practice of veterinary medicine itself and not how to get into school to be one? couldnt that fit under Veterinary school? 98.220.2.38 (talk) 17:38, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tone

"The field of veterinary medicine is a highly competitive, yet underemployed, field of medicine. Today's veterinarians are doctors who are highly educated to protect the health of both animals and humans. The skills of highly qualified veterinarians are in constant demand, and job opportunities within this field are endless. To be considered a qualified veterinarian, there are many preparations to complete, the road is long and treacherous, and the competition is intense. Additionally, the career continues to change, from income trends to gender distribution, and these changes impact the field as a whole."

Excuse me? The road is long and treacherous? I'm no Billy Shakespeare but this introduction is terribly written. It looks like something you'd see on a badly folded pamphlet in an unlicensed career counsellor's office. It's eye-rollingly POV and isn't even about veterinary medicine, it just attempts to make the profession look good (which it doesn't) in an inappropriate style. Can someone add a template or fix this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MaxPayne901 (talk • contribs) 20:53, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with MaxPayne, it looks like some dopey 14-year-old trying to write an essay on how to become a veterinarian. The whole "Today's Veterinarian" section is horrible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.237.249.166 (talk) 22:35, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]