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February 12

Pointmaster Joystick

I have a pointmaster joystick with a 9 pin serial plug it plugs into the 9 pin serial plug on my laptop but it say's in my control panel it is not connected what is the problem? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.19.150.153 (talk) 02:16, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

This really should be asked at the Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing. My first question would be if this is the Discwasher Pointmaster joystick for the Arari 2600? Laptops do not usually have the 15 pin joystick port that has been replaced by USB on current systems. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 04:38, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

The computer won't recognize serial port devices... it is not Plug and Play. However, if you tell a driver or program the COM port number, it will work. However, I do not know of any drivers for it. Assuming it uses standard commands, it could work if you give it the correct COM port number (if you only have one, it is usually COM1). Lucimundatene89, formerly Aroni125 (talk) 15:26, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Random (specific) question about soccer goalkeeper pages

I wonder if it would be more relevant to soccer goalkeepers in particular if editors and authors would give goals conceded on goalie pages, rather than goals scored. (Hockey also?) I have looked up quite a few soccer goalies on Wikipedia in my time and always get excellent biographical information, but this is the one statistic that is a bit lacking! I am not an editor right now, but I would like to get involved at some point. I hope this is the right place for this suggestion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.51.77.236 (talk) 02:45, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion. When you believe an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the edit this page link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to).  Chzz  ►  02:49, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Since your suggestion would affect many articles, you could try posting it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject American football. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:27, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

American football is different than European (and almost everywhere else) football... so I'd recommend talking to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football Lucimundatene89, formerly Aroni125 (talk) 15:31, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Is there an easy way for an anonymous user to check their contributions?

Thanks. 66.108.223.179 (talk) 03:59, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Yes: In an IP's signature, the address links to his/her contributions page. It can also be reached at Special:Contributions/<address>, such as Special:Contributions/66.108.223.179. -- Bk314159 (Talk to me and find out what I've done) 04:19, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

If you are not logged in then your edits are assigned to your IP address at the time. At Special:Contributions you can enter a given IP address to see its contributions. At Special:Mycontributions you can see your current IP address (or account if you are logged in) and its contributions. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:59, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Your browser may have a history feature that might be somewhat useful for recalling the Wikipedia pages you have recently viewed, some of which you will have edited. That might help if your IP address changes from one Wikipedia session to the next, as often happens. If you are serious about tracking your contributions to Wikipedia, create an account. If you edit anonymously, your IP address can vary and other anonymous users may sometimes edit with the same IP addresses as you. --Teratornis (talk) 07:01, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Whether the IP changes or not would depend on whether their ISP uses dynamic or static addresses, so IP addresses sometimes never change frequently.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 09:01, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Page move documented but page unavailable

Hello Wikipedia Help Desk, I moved my new page from draft status to live status. Unfortunately, the page is unavailable online, Google search comes up empty. Page move was reported as successful on February 10, 2011. How does one publish a Wikipedia page? The directions are unclear and confusing. Your help will be much appreciated. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Htothtide (talk • contribs) 12:01, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

You mean The_College_Club_of_Boston? This page is really not finished. It must wikified and there are more problems... mabdul 12:09, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

(e/c) The College Club of Boston (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Google has a very big Internet to index. It will get round to this new article eventually, but it may take a week or two. Meanwhile the article could do with more references to reliable sources to show that the club is notable. The "find sources" link suggests that this news item might help, but without a subscription I can't read the full text. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:12, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

We don't have any control over when Google indexes pages, although it often happens fairly quickly. The page does show up in a Google search. As others have noted, it needs work, and may get deleted if not improved. For example, it has zero references.--SPhilbrickT 17:31, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

WP:RFM Setup

I've never done a RFM, under the "involved users" section, do I need to list everyone who weighed in at Talk:List_of_The_Angry_Video_Game_Nerd_episodes#Request_for_comments, including IPs with very few other edits? CTJF83 19:46, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

• Never mind, found the answer. CTJF83 12:27, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

HELP

I am trying to find out why my postings are not live? I created them following instructions but don't see them - this was over a month ago. Can you let me know what happened and what I need to do? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mtsegal (talk • contribs) 20:32, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

You edited a sandbox, a page for testing the wikimarkup which is constantly overwritten. Create a sandbox for example at User:Mtsegal/sandbox and start there a proposal - If you think the article is ready then submit it. mabdul 20:35, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

You have asked this before - please re-read the replies which are now archived here before re-posting your text. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:40, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Street

I entered South Capitol Street and Southern Avenue for information on how to get to that intersection, but the search brought up Southern Avenue and East Capitol Street, NE, which is not an actual location in DC. I don't even know if I am in the right place to report this as I started out entering the location in Google, and followed a link to here. I did finally find the information I was trying to verify, but only because I already knew what I was looking for. Pity the person who tries to find this location cold. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.48.185.144 (talk) 22:06, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Please provide links to the articles. CTJF83 22:11, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

You are at Wikipedia, an online encyclopedia, and this is the Help Desk for people trying to use or edit it. Were you trying to use an online mapping service of some kind? -- John of Reading (talk) 22:25, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

I could not duplicate it. And no, this is not the place to report it. Try "Report a problem" at the bottom of the left pane of Google Maps Lucimundatene89, formerly Aroni125 (talk) 15:46, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

out side uk

my friend in canada, new brunswick cannot find what i have been writing on wiki. is it because no one outside the uk can access what someone has written in the uk? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Comnut (talk • contribs) 22:42, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

No, location has nothing to do with it. Your text on "men or gods" is on your user page, which is not part of the encyclopedia. An ordinary Wikipedia search only looks in the encyclopedia articles. Your friend will be able to read your text by typing "User:Comnut" into the search box. -- John of Reading (talk) 22:56, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Wet weather driving doesn't read like an encyclopedia article

It's more like a pamphlet or something. I know there's a template that can be put on the page for this, but can't remember what one it is (it's not wikify), so mentioning it here in the hope someone can appropriately tag the page. M0ffx (talk) 22:43, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

I think {{Howto}} is what you want. Goodvac (talk) 22:45, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

 Done. Monterey Bay (talk) 02:01, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Sent to AFD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wet weather driving. – ukexpat (talk) 18:15, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

February 13

Southern University Sit-In at S H Kress 1960, Baton Rouge, LA

§§ (UTC)JJanette Harris (talk) 03:22, 13 February 2011 (UTC)jJanette Need to find out the role of the NAACP in this Sit-In Case And was it the first 1960 Sit-In case ( Garner v Louisiana), ( 369 US) to go to the U S Supreme Court.—–J Janette Harris (talk) 03:22, 13 February 2011

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Humanities reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. Danger (talk) 03:41, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Editing Glitch with Ref tags

Hi everyone, I asked last week about a glitch I'm having with the Reflist tag. I'm creating an article on my userpage about a business guru, but I can't continue because of a reference glitch. I can't edit, add sections, or more or less do anything to the article -- every time I do, about half my page is automatically deleted and the page insists there's a reflist tag error. I'm using Firefox and I've already tried on several browsers. Am I doing something wrong? Is there a way to fix this? Thanks. Catchthedream (talk) 09:52, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Assuming you're talking about User:Catchthedream/Issamar Ginzberg, I made a small edit. See if that helps you out. I'm not quite sure what you were having problems with. Dismas|^(talk) 10:00, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. It didn't work, but I appreciate the help! Catchthedream (talk) 10:12, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

EDIT: I also noticed that the reflist will not update. I have two references tags with "1" that lead to two different places. Help? Catchthedream (talk) 10:28, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

You had both the refs named the same thing. Dismas|^(talk) 10:30, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Reflist still malfunctioning. All I did was add a wikilink and entire sections vanished. Catchthedream (talk) 11:24, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't know how you did it, but your edit at 11:19 removed half the draft. I've restored it for you. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:38, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't know why the end of the source text often disappears when you save regardless of the used browser. I have worked at the help desk for years and don't recall reports of this problem. I don't think it has anything to do with references. Part of the disappearing source text just happens to be {{reflist}} and this causes an error message about missing {{Reflist}}. Maybe there is a problem with your account settings, computer or internet connection. Have you enabled something under Gadgets at Special:Preferences? Will you try editing while logged out? It will reveal your IP address. Can you try another computer? PrimeHunter (talk) 12:37, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, both of you. Problem solved :) Catchthedream (talk) 19:47, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Nevermind. Still a problem. I have no idea how to fix this, and I'm on a different internet server with default settings. Who do I go to about this??? Catchthedream (talk) 09:58, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Why is my ID in red?

Everybody seems to have a blue ID, what should I do to get that?

Eravian (talk) 13:38, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

It is only because nothing yet has been added to your user page. If you just put a full stop or dnfkhdhfkfh or something, then click save, it will turn blue.--Aspro (talk) 13:43, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Links to nonexistent pages are always red, not just user pages. See Wikipedia:Red link. And see Wikipedia:User pages for things you can put on your user page. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:49, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Create your own user page. See WP:UP for details of what you can and can't have. I *cough* "borrowed" *cough* some of my stuff off other editors, and I also know that some other editors have done the same with stuff I put on my user page. There's no rule against that! Mjroots (talk) 16:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

alt + f

alt + f is supposed to search wikipedia, but i'm using google chrome and it just brings up the tools menu. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.164.224 (talk) 21:00, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't think it's meant to search. Alt- keys combination are usually determined by your browser or OS, not the websites. Are you thinking of ctrl-f, which will (usually) search for and find text within the open page of the browser? Rehevkor ✉ 21:04, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

The tool tip when I hover over the search box says "alt + shift + f". --ColinFine (talk) 21:23, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

I think he got that from Wikipedia:Keyboard shortcuts, where it's actually Alt+Shift+f which brings the cursor to the search box in later versions of Firefox, but I don't know about Google Chrome. -- œ^™ 21:28, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Alt+⇧ Shift+f works for me with Google Chrome on Windows Vista. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:39, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Wally George

Hello- I am a California artist/ art teacher and I'm Wally George's niece. I didn't really know Wally when I was a child but became closer when his 9th wife, Janis, had their baby daughter around the same time I had my daughter. His daughter is MY cousin. Ironically, without knowing it, we both named our girls Holly ! For the first time we started celebrating family holidays together and Janis and I took the 'Hollys' on fun day trips like apple picking in Oak Glen. Wally's divorce from Janis really upset him (shouldn't have been a big surprise since she was only 19 when he brought her here from England to marry,and he was almost 60 years old !) She may have been the only wife that decided to leave HIM! Wally and I continued to have outings with our girls (post divorce) and he'd come to our house for Christmas , Easter and Bar-B-Que in the summer. He didn't get along very well with my Mom (his sister) but my husband and I and our friends always thought he was fun to be with. He was also a kind man with a good sense of humor and I miss him.

I know little about editing but I wanted to add more information to his Wikipedia bio. Please feel free to fix and rearrange what I have written so it flows better. I realize I should have added the 'marriage info' at the bottom 'Personal ' section. I'm working on an illustrated children's book right now about celebrities (as kids) and I've done all the artwork and ideas behind the stories, NOT the actual proper wording and placement of sentences !! Thank you, Susan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smilingbluecat (talk • contribs) 23:27, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

See WP:V and WP:RS. On Wikipedia, it doesn't matter what you know to be true, it only matters what you can verify with reliable published sources. Wikipedia is not a collection of original work; instead, Wikipedia's articles merely re-factor information that has already been published, to organize it better than the often chaotic World Wide Web. The most useful information you can provide to Wikipedia about Wally George or anything else is reliable published sources about the subject. One of the limiting factors on Wikipedia is finding sources. --Teratornis (talk) 03:41, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

February 14

Statistics: Wikipedia editors

How can i find a statistic listing out locations of wikipedia editors? eg. the number of wikipedia editors from country a, b, c, and so on? The closest thing i could find is through Category:Wikipedians by location. However, this would not give an accurate indication of the number of editors in those specified locations since some users may not include their userpage under the appropriate categories. Is there anything more accurate than this? ќמшמφטтгמ^torque 03:00, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

I think I saw this type of data somewhere once, but I can't find it now with a small effort. Note that your question is somewhat ill-posed, because "editor" is a very broad term. That would include everybody who has made at least one edit to Wikipedia. You might consider narrowing that down, perhaps to "active editors" or "editors with significant contributions" unless you really do want to include every drive-by editor who typed "Hello world!" on the Sandbox and left. Also note that there are over 200 Wikipedias in different languages. By Wikipedia do you mean all of them, or just the English Wikipedia? The geographic distributions of editors for the various language Wikipedias will almost certainly be different, depending on the geographic distributions of people fluent in the various languages. Anyway, here are some more links where you can continue searching if nobody else provides the answer you want here:

• Wikipedia
• Academic studies about Wikipedia
• Community of Wikipedia
• Wikipedia:Geographic imbalance
• Wikipedia:Researching Wikipedia
• Wikipedia:Academic studies of Wikipedia

--Teratornis (talk) 03:57, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

A Google search finds User:Pseudomonas/IP editors by country. --Teratornis (talk) 04:03, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

The most thorough analysis of Wikipedians I'm aware of is the UMU-Merit survey, which sadly doesn't seem to have investigated country. Though I can offer my personal observation – and I'm not the first to notice this – that Australians are over-represented in lists such as Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits and Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by featured article nominations. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 04:19, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, when I say "editor" i meant registered users or active editors (whichever is easier to identify). And I was referring to only English Wikipedia. Alternatively, a breakdown of number of edits by country. eg from wikichecker there has been about 444millions edits on en.wiki - where did those edits come from? Im not sure if such statistics exist though, but any help is much appreciated. ќמшמφטтгמ^torque 05:55, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

I found this, Wikipedia:Edits by project and country of origin, but it is outdated. ќמшמφטтгמ^torque 08:31, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

A few things to discuss

1. Is there a source to proves that British Actor Dominic_Keating who played Malcolm_Reed on Star_Trek:_Enterprise that he was born in 1962? He looks like he was born in 1965. Is there a verified source for this?

2. Wikipedia might want mention that Dustin_Diamond who starred on Saved_by_the_Bell was in a porn movie according to IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1328912/

3. Would it be ok to add a photo for British Canadian author Martyn_Godfrey since he is dead from this link: http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/g/martyn-godfrey/?

4. Wikipedia might want to put The_oc under the Category:Serial_drama_television_series. Just a suggestion. Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 03:12, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Regarding #2, if you would like to add the movie to his filmography, you're welcome to. You're an editor, go and edit. But you should be aware that the movie that you point out is not a porn movie in the usual sense of the word. It's listed as a comedy at IMDb. Dismas|^(talk) 03:28, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Actually there's consensus that IMDb does not meet Wikipedia's requirements for reliable sources and should not be cited as a reference; see Wikipedia:WikiProject_Film/Resources#IMDb. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 04:22, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

...Although you could, of course, cite a different source that provides the the same information. Re #3: A person's death doesn't automatically terminate copyright on photos of them. See Wikipedia's Image use policy. Re #4: Sounds reasonable to me, assuming it meets the criteria described at Category:Serial_drama_television_series. You can add it yourself by adding [[Category:Serial_drama_television_series]] near the bottom of the article, where the other categories are listed. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 04:33, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Citing other articles

If a user creates an article and uses the same format as another article (obviously changing the words), do they have to cite the article from which they copied the format from?

For example, the original article says:

"Roswell is a city located in northern Fulton County; it is an affluent suburb of northern Atlanta, Georgia. According to the US Census Bureau's 2008 estimate, the population is 87,657. It is the seventh-largest city in Georgia."

And I place it in another article and modify it:

"Columbus is a city located in northern Muscogee County; it is an affluent suburb of southern Atlanta, Georgia. According to the US Census Bureau's 2008 estimate, the population is 190,000. It is the third-largest city in Georgia."

Would I have to cite the first article? Thechased (talk) 03:42, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

No. You'll find that most articles about a certain range of subjects pretty much read the same. Take most any actor. They'll usually start out with John Doe (born January 1, 1900 - January 1, 2000) was an American stage and screen actor It's just natural that they're all going to look the same. And in the case of cities, many articles on US cities were actually created with the help of a bot that just pulled various data from a census file. Dismas|^(talk) 03:46, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and in general, we should never cite ourselves. So let's say that you want to say that John Doe attended Yale University in the John Doe article. You should find some other source for that statement and not the Wikipedia article for Yale University. Dismas|^(talk) 03:53, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

See WP:CIRCULAR. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 09:58, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Search keywords/code

What keywords do I need to use so that I can easily use the search box to search Wikipedia-help? A list page would be very helpful also.

 IamIYouareYou 

05:20, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

If you click the magnifying glass to the right of the search box, you'll be presented with the option to restrict your search to certain namespaces. Click the button labelled "none" to uncheck all the namespaces, then check the boxes for Wikipedia, MediaWiki, and Help, then run your search. For the kind of technical questions you've asked below, you try checking only the Help namespace first.

By the way, you might want to read the guideline on signatures, as yours doesn't seem to comply: it lacks a link to your talk page, and looks like it might disrupt the flow of surrounding text. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 05:45, 14 February 2011 (UTC)Iamiyouareyou (talk) 06:04, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

code help

Ribbon Stacking

Specifically, I want to stack my acquired Award ribbons on the top of my user page. What is the code for accomplishing that? 05:20, 14 February 2011 (UTC)Iamiyouareyou (talk) 06:03, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

yes, the style you are looking for is "<div style="position:absolute"...>. You can add more extras, for example the position: <div style="position:absolute; z-index:100; right:20px; top:20px;">...</div> You may include a clickable picture, that would be the {{click}}-template. If you want examples, please examine this here from my user page. Regards.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 13:39, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Barnometer

What part of the barnometer code do I need to edit to make it's vertical length shorter? Meaning how do I make it smaller? 05:41, 14 February 2011 (UTC)<pre style="width:100px;height:20px; border:4px dotted red; color:red;"> IamIYouareYou </pre> (talk) 06:01, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Since the formatting of user pages can be so different from articles, there is a separate Help desk for them: the Wikipedia:User page design center. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:24, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Secure server

I've been logging onto Wikipedia through the secure server feature, which I believe has a few problems. Although it says "remember me for 30 days" or something like that, I was logged out a few times after only 3 three minutes. This frustrates me because while saving a page, I would be logged out, so the IP number is displayed instead on "Sp33dyphil" on the article's talk page. What's going on here with the "Remember me for 30 days" thing? Also, after using this feature, I found out that, if I log in without the secure server, the computer seems to reject me and log me out again. This means that I will have to be using the secure server whenever I want to edit the site. Can somebody please explain what's going on? Thanks Sp33dyphil ^{(T • C • I love Wikipedia!)} 05:33, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Does anything in the "I get logged out just after logging in" section at Help:Logging in help you? Also, when switching between secure server and the ordinary server, other users have solved problems by deleting the en.wikipedia.org and wikipedia.org cookies, so you might give that a try. If you need to have your IP address hidden from view where you disclosed it by accident, see Wikipedia:Oversight. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:35, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

How to insert a photograph

how can i insert a photograph in any article by uploading it from drive?? Yaaerodrum (talk) 08:02, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

You must first upload the photo and then place it in the article. See WP:UPLOAD for instructions. Dismas|^(talk) 08:19, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Referencing Figures/Images

How are figures/images referenced in the article? I found such a missing reference, which I would like to correct, in

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rayleigh_fading

"The autocorrelation function of the Rayleigh fading channel shown above with 10 Hz maximum Doppler shift is shown in the figure. It is periodic ..."

In a scientific article one would use numbers. I was unable to find anything on this subject in

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Images —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.187.189.80 (talk) 10:31, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure if your talking about formatting for references, or for captions. References are created using the <ref> tags. This will automatically create a reference (what appears as a ^[1]) in the article. The number will match up with whatever numkber the reference is in the article and clicking it will take you down to the reference list, which you must list with either {{reflist}} or <references />. An example would be: "This is a sentence I want to reference. <ref>This is my reference and will show up in the reference list</ref>". References can be done in any style, and if the article is established you should use whatever style is already in place. But to make things easier we have a series of templates, such as {{citeweb}} which produce references in a standard format. For more information on referencing see Referencing for Beginners.

If your referring to images that has a slightly different syntax. Basicly it is the same syntax as for a interwiki link ([[ ]]). Basically it is [[File:(name goes here)|(size goes here)|(caption goes here)]]. For more information on images there is the picture tutorial and the wikisyntax cheatsheet. --nn123645 (talk) 13:55, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Wiki deletion issues

Hi Everyone

I am posting this here as I have been unable to get a response from anyone on any other platform. I have twice created informative pieces on two vietnamese restaurants in Shoreditch which I love and have been twice delted. I even went onto Wiki and followed the example of the River Cafe making the piece factual as opposed to an advertising format, taking down any pictures I didn't have the rights for and having references and Links to other pages with no contact details for the restaurant in the piece. However I have been deleted twice now and really wish to get the message across that these restaurants follow the real history of Vietnamese cooking ( a little of what I put in the piece) and the history of the restaurants. I certainly didnt mention anything about it being delicious or promotion of any kind.

Please help

Kind regards SimonWFCA (talk) 11:10, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

The notices placed on your talk page to notify you of the most recent speedy deletions say that your second versions of each article were deleted under criteria A7, which says that an article may be deleted if it does not indicate why its subject is important or significant. To find out more, I suggest you contact the editors who deleted the articles - links to their respective talk pages are in the signature at the end of each notice. Gandalf61 (talk) 11:24, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Also read the General Notability guideline - WP:NOTABILITY, as well as the notability guideline for companies and organisations WP:CORP. The subject of an article must "deserve" its place here on Wikipedia. Roger (talk) 11:30, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

I have looked at the last article and agree with its deletion under WP:CSD#A7. Most restaurants are not notable as we use that term here. You said above that the article had "references"—citation to references would be the most important way you could show notability—but the article had none. External links are not references and in any event, what we need is independent, third party reliable sources (newspaper articles, books treatment, magazine pieces, etc.), not links to the restaurant's website.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:14, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

I know it can seem frustrating, but Wikipedia has quite specific definitions of notability - it's to do with how much third party attention it has attracted. In the case of a restaurant, Le Gavroche or Le Manoir are probably notable - lots of reviews, chitchat in the Sunday supplements etc, chef's got himself a tv show and book deal. In the case of your local (probably excellent) Vietnamese, it's probably only got a couple of reviews in the local paper, which wouldn't be enough to achieve notability in Wikipedia terms. Elen of the Roads (talk) 16:28, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Help again with this table

hello,

if I push the sortable button in the "Dimensions" column, why is "Heydar Aliyev" the first (with "100×70"), even if the lowest number is "70". Could you find the mistake, please? Thank you.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 12:19, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Easy to answer that. The contents of the column are text strings. "100×70" starts with "1", and therefore comes before any of the other strings in that column, which start with "2" or higher numbers. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:28, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer. So I need to add for all measurements the {{nts}} template? If so, I should write like this: {{nts|100×70|70}}, right? Thank you.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 12:36, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

My reading of Template:Nts doesn't suggest that it works the way you suggest. Perhaps you were thinking of Template:Sort? - David Biddulph (talk) 12:58, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't know whether there's any conventional way to order stamps by size, but another option would be to have them sort by total area. You could do that using something like {{sort|7000|100×70}} in each line, where 7000 is the stamp's total area, which I derived manually. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 12:55, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Six Nations rugby 2012

For Week 3 of the Championship you have 2 games on Friday, 24th February which never happens. I think this should be Saturday 25th with Scotland v France on Sunday 26th Feb. The other fixtures look ok. Just incase someone is booking a flight using your info. May Sinclair —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.153.36.137 (talk) 14:29, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

I've fixed it. Our dates were copied from the Daily Telegraph, which had got them wrong. Algebraist 14:36, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

A suggestion I have

Would it be ok to create a categories for wikipedians descent or ancestry? Please let me know. Neptunekh2 (talk) 15:37, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Well, as you know since you're in category Arab Wikipedians, we do have these categories. Are you asking if it's alright to create another one for one that's missing? Because I'm pretty sure that would be okay. If you need any help creating a category, let me know. --Danger (talk) 15:44, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

My user page

Well, I'm really not pleased how my user page looks, but I have no idea how to redesign it. If anyone can help me, I'll be very grateful. Also, I don't know is this a right place to put this up. If there's a place where this types of problems are resolving, please tell me. --Sundostund (talk) 15:43, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

We have a page just for that sort of thing. Good luck! --Danger (talk) 15:46, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Great! Thank you. --Sundostund (talk) 15:51, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

making a subpage a wikipedia article

hello all! i created a subpage and wanted to merge/ move it into the real wikipedia world... is this possible?

Ralphydanman (talk) 16:24, 14 February 2011 (UTC) Ralph

Will reply at user talk page Mjroots (talk) 16:32, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

edit / add content to existing page

You already have a page with recent history of the Afghanistan Scout Association. During my one year mobilization to Kabul, I worked as Scoutmaster to five troops aligned with various orphanages. I partnered with NGO PARSA, as they had access to the orphanages. We held many events including Scout Day at the US Embassy in February 2010 with the Afghan & International media present to interview Ambassador Eikenberry, PARSA's Exec. Director Marnie, and me.

How can I add a paragraph or two about our attempts to increase participation in the Afghan Scouts during 2009-10? -Steve M. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.223.116.201 (talk) 16:50, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Please discuss this at Talk:Afghanistan Scout Association and be prepared to establish verifiable sources per WP:V. I also suggest you create an account. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 17:00, 14 February 2011 (UTC) Lead coordinator, WikiProject Scouting

Clean up and Nutrality problem

Hi,

I have recently edited this page as I noticed there was a nomination for for its neutrality to be checked and that it may require cleanup.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_of_Legal_Executives

I have amended some of the article to help solve this - however the flags are still showing at the top of the page. I have gone into the discussion page to see if there are any clues as to what was under dispute but nothing is listed.

As these were from 2008 and nothing further has happened, how do I get them removed? I do plan on adding a lot more information to this page in the coming weeks and will be adding references and citations.

Regards.

Hutchfish (talk) 17:02, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

I think you mean the "tags". To remove them, you must go to "Edit" (at the top of the page) and remove {{POV-check|date=August 2008}} and {{Cleanup|date=December 2008}}. Regards.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 17:50, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Please do not remove the tags yet as the issues have not been dealt with, in fact I have added another -- the article does not cite a single reference to a third party reliable source to demonstrate the notability of the subject. I also chopped out the "Future" section as it was spammy and crystal balling. – ukexpat (talk) 18:29, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Gray bar

I'm not totally sure this is the right place to ask, but here goes. I'm seeing a gray bar across the top of all or most of the Wikipedia pages I go to. Is that normally there, or is there some weird setting I've set that would cause that? Thank you, all. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 21:33, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

There have been similar reports to this before: [1]. I don't think any full explanation or solution has been thought of so far though. Rehevkor ✉ 21:37, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

(ec) I don't think people know Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_84#Mysterious_.27Grey.27_Bar_at_top_of_pages CTJF83 21:38, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

OK, I'll follow the advice on those pages and see what happens. Thank you! ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 21:43, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

One suggestion said the de-select "compatibility mode" in IE's "tools" menu, and that indeed took the gray bar away. I'm guessing that gray bar sits in place of something that wikipedia tried to display that IE could not handle, but we'll see. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 21:47, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Summary style

I haven't been able to find an answer to this, when doing an article in summary style, what length should the summary section be?

In the Burger King article I have the History of Burger King section summarized with 5 relatively short paragraphs. Each paragraph summarizes a section in the spin off article, which is not yet finished but is at 58kb as it stands now. I think the summary is an appropriate length because it summarizes a pretty long article in a rather small section, while others have commented that the summary has too much detail.

So, what is the proper standard? Is there one? --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 22:15, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure. Disclaimer: I only read Burger King. I think it is really to long. although I love to read a long story, everybody who wants to know more about the history about this company should read really the history article. The beginning of the history, big turning points (one sentence that it went nearly bankrupt) and a bridge to today is only necessary. mabdul 00:50, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

The suggestion at Wikipedia:Summary style is that the summary in the parent article will look similar to the lead section in the child article - which makes sense, when you think about it, since both are trying to summarise the contents of the child article, one at the start of the child article, and the other in the parent article. Personally, I think the summary in Burger King is too long at present judged by that approach. Bencherlite^Talk 01:01, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

February 15

Problems uploading images

I have been trying to upload a clean image for a page for ages now, and the upload sever keeps changing the color scheme on a perfectly clear image on my computer. Yet, when I insert the image into a file, it sometimes shows up perfectly clear. Why and how do I fix this? Catchthedream (talk) 09:55, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

...and this post also deleted half of the text you were editing! Looking at the history of File:Issamar1.JPG, were those first five uploads all from the same, unaltered, file on your computer? If so, then something is definitely damaging the bytes that you are sending. I will post at Village pump (technical) on your behalf. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:12, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you so much! :) Catchthedream (talk) 10:30, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

I have tagged the image as not having evidence of permission. You state that the source is "Direct communication with subject." but this is insufficient for Wikipedia purposes (see the process set out at WP:IOWN) and on the face of it incompatible with the license given for the image. – ukexpat (talk) 15:54, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Moving problems with Scott Nicholson

Resolved

I was trying to resolve some issues with Scott Nicholson/Scott Nicholson (writer). I was trying to move the later back to the former as there was no conflict that required the more specific title. But it looks like the original move from Scott Nicholson occurred while it was under AfD discussion, which when resolved caused a notice to be placed at Talk:Scott Nicholson. This prevented the move of Talk:Scott Nicholson (writer). The history of the 2 talk pages should be merged. Thanks! Kuguar03 (talk) 05:44, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

I redirected Talk:Scott Nicholson (writer) to Talk:Scott Nicholson, this should resolve the issues with it.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 08:10, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

HELP!!

Can you please help me out with this article-Ooty? I was editing the infobox when suddenly the whole article went out of shape. It's LIVE now! Please help.--Suraj T 06:53, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

This has been fixed by Rich Farmbrough (talk · contribs) -- John of Reading (talk) 07:56, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Pileated Woodpecker page not proper

the page comes with no actual wikipedia layout around it, maybe somebody can fix this issue —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.63.13.213 (talk) 07:55, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

The page renders fine to me. Maybe you could clear your cache and see what happens? [[CharlieEchoTango]] 07:56, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

maths project

dear friends, i want to make a project on maths.our teacher told us to make a mathematical object out of waste..please suggest me something..i m an problem.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.183.50.171 (talk) 09:07, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps you could have a go at building an Icosahedron? -- John of Reading (talk) 09:20, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Infront Sports & Media Page - International versions / Can you help?

I've been directed here by helpful Wikipedians to establish the best method of creating different country versions of the content on the Infront page. I would like to provide translated versions of the English text for the German, French and Italian Wikipedia sites. The German one specifically is of greatest interest as there is currently incorrect information on there about the company. It is relevant to have this information in all country versions as Infront is international and active worldwide. I'm told I will have to translate the information which is no problem but was wondering if the English references would be sufficient or if I would have to find references in the individual languages as well? I was also wondering if you could advise on the best process for this - clearly I will link all pages to the original English Wikipedia page but would be grateful for any other advice you can offer.

Many thanks Clnatinfront (talk) 12:29, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Bear in mind that it appears that you have a conflict of interest, so you have to keep a neutral point of view when editing the articles. There is also a chance too that you may be blocked from editing because the username you have chosen is in violation of the username policy, because it represents a group or company, and not an individual.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 13:51, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Username is a clear violation IMHO and reported to WP:UAA. – ukexpat (talk) 16:07, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Apparently not... – ukexpat (talk) 17:55, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Just a remark to ukexpat. Maybe next time you won't be quite so hasty to beat up the newbies with administrative action and rather just give them a friendly explanation of the problem first. I've noticed you doing this before, please try to assume good faith and be a bit more welcoming instead of immediately biting the newbies. Administrative action is for deliberate malicious acts, not newbie mistakes. Roger (talk) 18:21, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

I report them as I see them. Reporting what I believe to be a UN violation isn't biting. – ukexpat (talk) 18:41, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Demetrias - the Nun

In 413, Pelagius wrote a lengthy letter to Demetrias, who had recently turned her back on wealth in order to become a nun. Pelagius' letter was to explain his position in the argument of "free-will" or the "freedom of will" with Augustine of Hippo. This was found under the Pelagian controversy. My Question: Who is this nun - Demetrias? And why did Pelagius write her? What role did she play during the period of the early Christianity and development?

Keep up the good work. God bless! Sincerely, —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.219.178.2 (talk) 15:05, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

This page is only for questions about how to use Wikipedia. You may ask this question here.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 15:11, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Or, alternatively, you may be interested in reading about Demetrias (daughter of Anicius Hermogenianus Olybrius). Bencherlite^Talk 16:19, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

747-8 PDF causes abort

After I download the article about the 747-8 in PDF format, both Firefox and Internet Explorer terminate. I had this result on Monday and again today, Tuesday. I am a computer person so I have tried many things without success. Please let me know when this is fixed. Thanks Raydiek (talk) 16:13, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Works for me. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:25, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Can you download any other articles in PDF format? Since you are a computer person, you understand the need to isolate the cause:

• Is the problem on your computer, or on Wikipedia? (Not likely to be on Wikipedia since at least one other user can download the PDF you want.)
• Is the problem only with this article, or with all articles?
• Can you view PDF files from other sites?

See WP:BROWSER for general information about using various Web browsers with Wikipedia. --Teratornis (talk) 18:55, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Since there do not appear to be any other reports of this either here or at WP:VP/T, it seems likely - not certain, but likely - that the problem is in your machine. But then, as you are a computer person, you obviously realise this. --ColinFine (talk) 23:08, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

tagged as possible conflict of interest

Hi, I linked to an interview with Sally Fallon Morell this morning on the Weston A. Price page that would be helpful for those wondering how that organization began, but it was removed with a tag "possible conflict of interest". I am not affiliated with the WAPF and wondered if I could try again to put that link up. Although, I think I put it in the wrong spot today. Would my link HAVE to go to the "external links" section?

Thanks, KitchenKop (username) — Preceding unsigned comment added by KitchenKop (talk • contribs) 17:31, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

The source you provided, a page on "kellythekitchenkop.com", looks very similar to your username thus the bot quite reasonably assumed that you have a connection to that site. Your edit was not on Weston Price it was on Weston A. Price Foundation. Please provide specific links in your posts, I had to check your contribution log to find what you are talking about. If you are in fact connected to the "kellythekitchenkop.com" website please note that it is generally considered bad form to quote yourself on WP unless you are a generally recognised reliable source on the particular topic. BTW please sign your posts properly by typing four tildes at the end like this - ~~~~. Thanks. Roger (talk) 18:09, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

I've brought KitchenKop's to WP:UAA because of the apparent WP:COI and WP:SPAMNAME problems.

As Roger mentions, this appears to be in reference to recent edits to Weston A. Price Foundation. In that case, a bot tagged the similarity between the username and the url, and Alexf removed the edits as spam.

The relevant policies/guidelines include WP:U, WP:COI, WP:SPAM, WP:EL, and WP:NOTLINK.

KitchenKop, I suggest changing your username or starting a new account that doesn't make you appear to be representing kellythekitchenkop.com. Also, note that kellythekitchenkop.com is very unlikely to be an acceptable link within Wikipedia as an external link (WP:ELNO, especially #11) or as a source. --Ronz (talk) 19:24, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

delivery of passports

I live in a block of flats and a blank delivery card from "the dx delivery co." was on the stairs. after asking all my neighbours if they were expecting anything I came to the conclusion it could be my passport. Could not access their website and ot took several phone calls to get through to an automated service. I think this service is deplorable and another company needs to be considered for this service. They now want an extorshinate amount of money for it to be delivered, or else am going to have to sit in all day and wait. Needs to be looked at for security reasons if nothing else. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.240.105.43 (talk) 17:43, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.5 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25

One of the reference desks is probably a better place to ask your question. However, I had no difficulty accessing DX's website and the service does seem above board. According to the FAQ, they're apparently happy to deliver to another address (eg: your work place) or let someone you trust sign for it (eg: a neighbour), and I can find no mention of a fee payable by the recipient (though they are a secure courier service, so I suppose it is possible the person you spoke with was in sales and thought you wanted something collected and delivered to someone else). You could call their customer services again (on 0844 371 0000 or 01604 496 798) and try to clarify the situation. Astronaut (talk) 02:07, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia kml or kmz file

Hello,

I am looking to embed Google Earth into my website for my 7th Grade students. I want to include the Wikipedia layer on the embedded GE browser app. I was wondering if there was a stand-alone kml or kmz file to place the Wikipedia layer on my embedded Google Earth. Panoramio has a stand-along kml file downloadable from their site and was wondering if there was such a file for Wikipedia.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rigwald (talk • contribs) 18:49, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Does Wikipedia:WikiProject Geographical coordinates#Tools and applications based on coordinates from Wikipedia provide any useful clues? I found that by Googling around a bit. --Teratornis (talk) 19:10, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Luigi Lucioni

Dear Sirs, I am writing about the artist Luigi Lucioni. There is a stub atricle. I finished the article on user page and I feel it is complete. I can't figure out how to proceed to the next step. I've search the site and can't figure it out. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stuartembury (talk • contribs) 18:50, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your contributions. Since Luigi Lucioni already exists, you would simply copy-and-paste the information into the article. But you need to source your information. At present it is not good enough to be added to the article. Thanks. —Half Price 18:58, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

How to save an article without posting it

I am wanting to write an article, but I know it's going to take me longer than one sitting to get it done with. I was about to start, but I was apprehensive that if I pressed save it would automatically go online and I don't want it to do that. Is there any way I can save it without publishing it so that I can continue to edit it without other people seeing it until it's finished? — Preceding unsigned comment added by IRTLive (talk • contribs) 19:04, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Yes you would created it in a user sandbox, such as User:IRTLive/Sandbox, where you can work on it at your own pace. If you are connected with the Indiana Repertory Theatre (from one of your edits to the Tutorial sandbox) and are contemplating editing that article or related articles please read WP:COI. Your user name would also in that case probably be a violation of the user name policy. – ukexpat (talk) 19:11, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Your account shows few edits. If that is all the Wikipedia editing you have done, any brand-new article you create is at high risk of being deleted. It's much better to start by making small edits to existing articles, watch the articles you edit and learn from the changes other editors make to your edits, and read the friendly manuals. Before you even started to write an article, you already missed two things: you did not sign your post, and you created an account that may violate WP:ORGNAME. This is not to criticize you, but to point out that you may be venturing into something difficult (article creation) before you know enough about all the gotchas on Wikipedia. See WP:AFD and examine the remarkable number of new articles whose deletion is being debated right now. There are many rules for content and formatting that are nearly impossible for new users to guess without studying Wikipedia extensively first. You can ask for help with writing a new article at Wikipedia:Requested articles. Good luck. --Teratornis (talk) 19:30, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

But if you do decide to go ahead, Your first article and the article wizard may be helpful. --ColinFine (talk) 23:11, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

I never clicked on that!

When I went back to the Steve Kean article, the computer itself clicked on the Swansea City A.F.C. article. I never clicked on that! I have a mug which says "I love my computer", but oh no that is wrong! Velociraptor888 20:12, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Do you have a question? -- kainaw™ 20:22, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Image Uploads

I have a question about the really complicated rules on this website. i have been struggling to edit a page for a while on here and everytime i finally upload an image under the "fair use" promotional option i go back to it and all the work i have done on the page has been deleted. the page i am working on is for musician promotional purposes and i have been working on the page trying to add images aand more information everyday to find i get no further forward. there is so much information on here regarding images and licences, the free use option that offers you to option of the fair use of a promotional photo hasn't worked for me yet and i'm really struggling to see where i am going wrong as i have seen various other users managing this option just fine. could you please help me out?

also, when you upload a image to wikicommons, does it have to have an existing link on a website online for it to work on here? ive just finished uploading an image that i was successful with the last time i tried and it just wont work.

i appreciate any information possible to stop my work on here being deleted day after day.

Thank you

1122hangover (talk) 21:38, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

I am afraid that the answer is: if you are working on a page for musician promotional purposes, you are in the wrong place. That purpose is fundamentally contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia: see WP:PROMOTION. Sorry. --ColinFine (talk) 23:13, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

An image such as File:Dopebandpromo99.jpg does not satisfy the criteria for fair use if it depicts a person who is still alive. Also see Fair use for the relevant legal theory. Fair use of copyrighted images conflicts to some degree with Wikipedia's aim to be a free content resource. You can eliminate your difficulties by uploading only images to which you own the copyright, and releasing them under a free license such as {{Cc-by-sa-3.0}}. --Teratornis (talk) 06:42, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

how to make the changes in Sanbox

I want to suggest the changes for the business.com. Since I know it just sold to ResourceNation on Feb 14, 2011. But I do not want directly edit the page.

~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Olixps (talk • contribs) 21:51, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

You can suggest the changes at Talk:Business.com if you wish. Or the sandbox is Wikipedia:Sandbox, just clicked "edit" at the top. CTJF83 22:30, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Creating new discussion pages

I noticed that there aren't discussion pages for many IPA charts (**********). There is no Template talk:IPAhelp2col either. I think the talk pages should be created, because their lack hinders unregistered users from posting comments there. But I'm not sure what templates I should use to create them. --Theurgist (talk) 23:32, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Unregistered users can create discussion pages in all talk namespaces. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:00, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

If you want to create a talk page, and don't know what else to put on it, {{Talk header}} often works. --Teratornis (talk) 05:42, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

February 16

Rating bar on the article

On abortion, bottommost, there is a rating bar. I've never seen it before on any other articles and when I clicked edit I can't see any codes behind it. Do you have any links to explanation for this (perhaps) new feature of Wikipedia? --Rattakorn c (talk) 01:54, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

See Article Feedback Tool. At present, on the English Wikipedia, the pilot project is being used for articles within the scope of Wikipedia:WikiProject United States Public Policy. Bencherlite^Talk 01:58, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

(ec) It's a hidden category called Article Feedback Pilot. If you follow the link, you can learn more about it. It is in the code of the article.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:03, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you both :) --Rattakorn c (talk) 03:19, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

conversion unit

Hi

I spotted a glitch in the unit conversion script.

Eg in the page for Nikita krouchev, production values (section "agricultural policy"), the conversion ton / short ton produced a non natural value (1.074 E+8) for a number which should have been shown as 107,000,000 - or shown as "107 million" While I understand the scientific notation, 100 million is not a particularly large number, and showing it as 107 million is much more natural...

I corrected it manually by editing the text to remove the conversion and show the results in human readable form.

Cedric