Talk:I Want to Know What Love Is

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BetacommandBot 16:03, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Merge Proposal

I, Reader 781, propose that I Wanna Know What Love Is be merged into this article. My reason is that the linked article is a non-notable recording of the same song. Reader 781 (talk) 06:32, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

The bigger hit? Says who? (Says when?)

As the sentence had a cite fact tag for quite some time (given by the author of the sentence, if my reading of the history is correct), I removed the sentence which read, "Foreigner's other top seller, "Waiting for a Girl Like You" spent 10 weeks in the number two spot, so it is often considered to be a bigger hit." Prior to that sentence being written, I had edited this page and left in a claim that "I Want To Know..." was among their biggest hits along with "Urgent" and "Waiting..." so it's not because I have any problem with the statement.

From the standpoint of sales, I don't know the actual sales count but it seems both singles are certified Gold, if the RIAA site can be trusted (often it is incorrect...if anybody has any source that either of these singles has been certified Platinum, please weigh in on this). But as the claim is based on the charting of "Waiting..." in Billboard, "I Want To Know What Love Is" was ranked as the #4 single of the year 1985, while "Waiting For A Girl Like You" was ranked as only the #19 song of 1982.

Personally, I have a lot of problems with the way Billboard assessed its points (by which it determined weekly ranking and then again by which it determines year-end ranking) then and now, and this is particularly a problem for songs which straddle the ranking period (which used to end in late November/early December in order to be tabulated and printed by the year-end issue which was on the stands more than two weeks before the end of the year it purported to rank) as "Waiting..." did.

Casting a shadow over their own methodology, Billboard's 50th Anniversary Hot 100 All-Time Top Songs list ranks "Waiting..." but not "I Want To Know..." in its top 100. How they resign this to the fact that their own rankings for their respective years ranked "I Want" higher than "Waiting" is beyond me. If anybody wants to re-add the claim about "Waiting..." with some qualifiers, I won't revert the claim, I just thought I'd post this here if starting a discussion with some relevant details would do this issue any good, for any who might care, insofar as the cite fact tag was added by the author of that claim. Abrazame (talk) 11:56, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Tina Arena version

When Tina Arena recorded her version a new bridge was written specifically for her recording. Does anybody have any information on her version? 144.53.226.17 (talk) 05:39, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Brazilian chart history

Assuming good faith, Mariah Carey's placement on the Brasil Hot 100 Airplay chart is being misunderstood.

The first official chart in Brazilian chart history was issued in October 2009, when a Beyonce song was number one. The chart is updated monthly, not weekly as it is in nearly every other territory in the world (which suggests either a lack of volatility or a lack of interest). So the next month, November, the second-ever official chart was released, and the Beyonce song remained at #1. The month after that, December, the Mariah Carey single replaced it at number one. That means the previous single was #1 for two months, the first and only two months of the chart.

The January and February charts find Mariah Carey remaining at number one. So that means that up until there is a March chart, that's three months of data for Mariah Carey being at number one: December, January and February. Not five months. Not 19 weeks. We don't measure in weeks what their chart methodology apparently measures in months.

There is no official data at Wikipedia acknowledging a March chart. My understanding is that there is no online record of the chart and so we are relying on a single Brazilian editor to update the Brazilian Airplay Chart article. I had previously heard that the problem was that there was no chart archive, but that the current month's chart could be found online, yet the link given at the Wiki article for the chart, [1], does not give any data at all. Perhaps they have discontinued the chart? If there is a March chart, and "I Want to Know What Love Is" places at #1 on that chart, then that would mean that the song would have been at number one spanning four charts, for a term of four months. Should an April chart find the single to still be the #1 most played song on Brazil's non-Brazilian airplay chart, then that would be five months.

If anybody has the data for the March chart, please add it to the Brasil Hot 100 Airplay article, but I'm troubled at the thought that even the current chart is not presented at the Billboard.br site.

To the superlatives being added — "the longest running song in Brazilian Airplay Chart history" — this is technically true, but at one chart longer than the previous longest running song, which was the only other song ever to hit number one in the five charts that make up the entirety of the Brazilian Airplay Chart history, it is being conveyed in a way that overstates and misrepresents the fact. Abrazame (talk) 07:17, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Please do not revert this erroneous and unreferenced material back into the article. Address relevant issues here and/or in the ongoing discussion at Wikipedia talk:Record charts#Brazilian charts. Abrazame (talk) 01:25, 12 March 2010 (UTC)