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New article
Here is the basic draft I've been working on for track and field. Certainly, there are plenty of improvements to be made and many red links to create articles for. Anyone looking to add information about road running and cross country events should add that information to either the specific articles or to the parent Athletics (sport) article. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)Join WikiProject Athletics! 11:33, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- For ease of discussion, let us use Talk:Athletics (sport) to discuss whether we should have both a track and field and an athletics article, or whether would should have just one combined article. This talk page should be used to discuss improvements to the track and field article. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)Join WikiProject Athletics! 11:40, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
- Agreed; I've moved the earlier discussion from here to there accordingly. jnestorius(talk) 13:18, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Details
Many of the descriptions of the events, particularly under Stadia are extremely detailed. They might follow the ideal stadium layout of the IAAF's diagram, but in reality, most facilities have some exceptions. For example, here in the United States, with the advent of Artificial turf, many throwing events have been relegated to adjacent fields, many jumping events sent to the end zones. Even without those limitations, architects frequently take liberties so the IAAF diagram is just a dream. Thusly, the article has been so overly generous with the details that it is misleading. I'll probably be editing out those details. The first detail that is particularly bothersome is the statement that a cage "removes" the danger. Sorry, you can see from my bio I am a track official. We've had spectators, competitors and fellow officials hurt or killed by flying implements. It is always dangerous to have flying heavy and sharp projectiles. I am sensitive to this. Its irresponsible of us to mislead the public to think they are safe behind a cage. You must always pay attention. Trackinfo (talk) 05:41, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
high school 300 meter hurdles
If I am not mistaken, high schools are running 300 meter hurdles in lieu of the 400 meter hurdles.Plantedpotroast (talk) 20:51, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
- You are correct, that is an American High School modification. Lots of other divisions also make modifications. This article is written from the perspective of International competition, the top level of the sport. We could spend a lot of space trying to explain all those various modifications, or make separate articles to describe those divisions, but that level of detail doesn't seem practical for the main article. Trackinfo (talk) 04:38, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- I agree. However, such information would be relevant to a prospective sub-article such as Track and field in the United States or Collegiate track and field. These do not yet exist, but I think they are both certainly topic areas worth exploring in future. SFB 19:05, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Requested move
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Track and field → Track and field athletics — The main name of the sport is Athletics, so it should be included in the title of the article. Outside of America, the term used is generally athletics on its own. For instance the international governing body is called the International Association of Athletics Federations. The article for the world championship is named IAAF World Championships in Athletics. An alternative would be something like Athletics (track and field). --Cjc13 (talk) 13:20, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
- I disagree. This sport is overwhelmingly known as track and field, even a quick Google search reveals a difference of almost ten million hits for track and field, while track and field athletics garners just 84,000 hits. I understand your point about other "track" sports and field sports made here, but this is not a matter for misunderstanding or disambiguation. This is akin to saying American football should be changed because it could mean any form of football in America. While that interpretation is possible, it is also unlikely to arise as an issue of comprehension. Track and field is the most common name by which the subject of the article is known and should remain at the current title. SFB 19:50, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
- Comment The sport is not overwhelmingly known as track and field; it is universally know as athletics. Repeat that Google search for Track and field excluding Wikipedia, and you will get about 41 million hits. Do the search for Athletics excluding Wikipedia and you will get about 297 million hits. I haven't checked all 297 million, but the first couple of pages all link to what would also be called track and field. However, on Wikipedia the article on Athletics also includes Road running, Cross country running and Race walking, so disambiguation is required for the specific article here. While track and field may be a common abbreviation in the North America, and even in the wider athletics community, it is pretty meaningless to the general public in the rest of the world unless the word athletics is included. On balance, I think I would favour a move to Track and field athletics, but to be honest, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it! Skinsmoke (talk) 13:37, 5 March 2011 (UTC)