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For reverting vandalism with amazing speed on my user page, I award you this Userpage Shield barnstar. Aaron north (T/C) 06:19, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

November 2010

I noticed the message you recently left to User talk:Rehelmer. Please remember: do not bite the newcomers. If you see someone make a common mistake, try to politely point out what they did wrong and how to correct it. Thank you. Article was blanked by original editor. Level 4 warning was issued- a tad severe, in my opinion. jsfouche ☽☾ talk 06:28, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I'll try to be less harsh next time... Samwb123T-C-E 15:23, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop deleting cited information from this article. If you want to add information, then go ahead, but I reverted your edit, because you deleted valuable content. Thanks. PlantRunner (talk) 19:55, 29 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Once again, please refrain from removing cited information from articles such as the MyWay Searchbar. If you want to reword the article, please do so without removing important information. PlantRunner (talk) 00:00, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

false accusation

you said i vandalised the James_Longstreet profile when obviously dont know who he is

Kleiber's law: The shorter version, without the "metabolic efficiency" stuff, is better

The metabolic-efficiency (ME) stuff is OR and is basically nonsense (let's see a cite for it). Warm blooded animals in adulthood have a power-law metabolic exponent less than 1 because they get a boost from surface/volume effects. Plants don't need that, and that's why their metabolic power exponent is one. In adults, all metabolic (food) energy winds up as heat eventually, so there's no point in talking about anything else. Reptiles are not true poikilotherms but do need to heat up to function, and since they need to warm up, and scaling effects give them a similar power law, but with a different scale factor for an overall slower metabolism as baseline. The reasons for 3/4 fitting the data better than 2/3 is unclear, but it may be because very small mammals can make up for their terrible metabolic heating cost by growing a lot thicker coats (shrews are half fur) and larger mammals can simply shed most hair, especially in the tropics (which they have done-- look at a rhino or elephant). That trick keeps the exponent from being the 2/3 law it would be, if all mammals had the same heat-tranfer coefficients from hide-to-air (they don't).

So, Showtime2009 has been blocked as a socker, and is probably our nutcase. The other users opposed to removing the OR are user:Mokele (who by his background should know better), and user:Samwb123, whose problem I don't know, but it may just be conservatism. I'm going to post this on both of their talk pages, and let us see if we can get this back to being a scientific article again. SBHarris 09:38, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]