Talk:Sasha Cohen

Scores

The scores here seem to be pretty sloppy. The page says that she has the highest score posted under the code of points, but the official ISU site (http://www.isu.org/vsite/vcontent/page/custom/0,8510,4844-160279-177495-33138-139933-custom-item,00.html) has the highest score as Irina Slutskaya's at 198.06 (seems to have been updated 23 February). Also, this page says that Sasha's personal best is 197.60, but below it we have her score at the World Championships as 214.39. Lmblackjack21 23:54, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jewish and Ukrainian Heritage

Is anybody there to write about her parents and hometown shtetl in Ukraine, and her Judaism believe? (confused english, sorry)--Sheynhertz-Unbayg 18:04, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)

i have not read anywhere that she is of jewish heritage.

Yes. She is. The LA Jewish Journal did an article about it right before the 2002 Olympics. Sasha also wears a necklace around her neck (the gold one.) that has the position of the stars in the sky at the time of her birth on one side and a Magen David on the other. When she was living in Laguna Niguel before moving to the East Coast, the Cohen family attended a local Reform synagogue and Natasha Cohen (Sasha's younger sister.) attended Tarbut v' Torah ( a Jewish day school.) in Orange County, CA. I highly doubt that if Sasha Cohen was not Jewish, that she and her family would belong to a synagogue and her parents send her sister to a Jewish day school. --User:aviva_dawn

I think her father is Jewish too. His name's robert cohen and Cohen is not a very jewish last name.

THIS ARTICLE IS TOO BIAS!!!

I don't understand why it would be "biased" to explain that someone is, indeed, Jewish. It's great to be Jewish!

Article Layout

"Cohen is not a very jewish last name." On the contrary, Cohen is a very Jewish last name.

Here's proof that "Cohen" is indeed a Jewish surname. http://surnames.behindthename.com/php/search.php?terms=cohen&type=n&operator=or

ok

wow all u ppl gotta get ur facts straight sasha cohen is indeed jewish but wtf does it matter in the first place? what signifigance does judism in her life hold? as far as im concered this topic has no importance in relation to her in the first place. she is a magnificant ice skater and her being jewish does not make this possible but rather all the hours of training that she has completed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!— Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.236.21.148 (talk • contribs)

Her background >_> --72.226.224.251 22:41, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Movie ?

was she in the movie Ice Princess as one of the skaters? if so it should be noted

No, she wasn't. It was Michelle Kwan and Brian Boitano.

she was the skate double for the lead actress, her face was cgi'ed over with the star.

Russian or Ukrainian?

Is Sasha's mother Russian or Ukrainian? In the article, she is listed as both. Jimbo (not THE Jimbo) 22:35, 13 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My understanding is that her mother was a Russian-speaking Ukranian citizen of Jewish descent. Under the Soviet Union, most Ukrainian citizens were Russian-speaking. This was particularly true -- and has continued to be true -- for those of non-Ukrainian ethnic background, including Jews and ethnic Russians within the Ukraine. AnotherBDA 13:29, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Olympic results

Should there be a spoiler warning for those who want to watch tonight?

ahhhh

I read by mistake...and just found out the results...oh well.... I knew she was gonna fall...as usual. kudos for the Japanase girl

Olympic Silver Medal Section

Since I, as an anon user, am not allowed to edit it myself, could someone please clean up the "However, on February 23, she fell twice in the finals of the ladies' event, where she ended up with a siver medal" phrase? It deserves more attention than that and there's a typo. Also, didn't she only fall once? She fell on one but I thought she only stepped out of the other. 65.92.205.116 00:15, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed --Pelladon 02:45, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about that. I was basing it on what I initially heard, as I was updating the article (there were three different places that mentioned that she was leading after the free skate, and there was plenty of stuff about spoilers without proper tags as well). ErikNY 03:24, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think she did fall twice. It may have been a step out but either way, she missed two jumps. I also think someone should mention the possible groin injury she suffered during the final warmup. Although it shouldn't be used as an excuse, it gave her problems throughout the rest of the warmup and during her first few jumps. --72.226.224.251 04:35, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well she did skate beautifully...even better than the Japanase girl, but too bad she missed those jumps. She just said in an interview that the groin injury was not really a problem, she just wasn't there.... Still, my heart went for the Russian skater..damm NBC and their sappy stories.

NBC is now calling Sasha Cohen the "Silver Belle." LOL! I love the sappy stories. I would've been happy seeing either Cohen or Slutskaya win, and I just knew one was going to and I'd feel bad for the other. Now neither did and I feel bad for both. I definitely feel dumb for underestimating Arakawa. Juppiter 08:07, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well... I think her peformance was too poor for a medal! The russian skater (Slutskaya) perfoemed much more better. Cohen fell twice and missed a jump. I personally belive that she get the silver just because she's in the US team!!! Even the georgian yong skater performed better than she did. And in the end... Arakawa deserved the gold medal!— Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.139.3.243 (talk • contribs)

^Cohen's program difficulty and choreography were higher and more detailed to begin with. The only two problems were those missed jumps and she lost points for those. Otherwise, her performance was almost perfect. To say that Elene Gedevanishvili beat her overall is ridiculous.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.226.224.251 (talk • contribs)

Whoa

Whoa, that picture is gigantic.

Could someone fix the picture after the article has been unlocked?

Thanks, J.H.

The problem was with Template:Infobox Figure skater. I don't know what the editor of that template was attempting to accomplish, but I reverted it. The image should be thumbnailed again now. Jkelly 05:30, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nasty Attitude and not a humble person

I saw Cohen do an interview and she had such a nasty attitude that I didn't care what she won tonite. She deserved what she got because she fell twice. I'm actually surprised she even medaled given her mistakes. That Japanese girl skated a perfect program and put Cohen in her place. As far as the Michelle comment above. Michelle has won 9 U.S. National Titltes and 5 World Championships so I think it's foolish to insult her or even compare Cohen's skating ability to Michelle's. It's just not comparable. Michelle is the Michael Jordan of her sport while Sasha is like the Kobe Bryant.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.72.100.137 (talk • contribs)

If we're going to compare basketball to figure skating, then basketball's World Championships are equivalent to the Olympics in figure skating. (I know that basketball also has a World Olympics, but for some reasons, American basketball players tend to not care and even pass up chances to play.) Michelle is more along the lines of Patrick Ewing or Charles Barkley - one of the best, with plenty of records/titles, but always beaten at the last minute when it REALLY counts. :Actually, to compare the two is silly. One is a team sport; the other, individual. If Michael could do it alone, the Washington Wizards would have a few rings. There's no reason to dump on Sasha just to lift Michelle up. Rattlerbrat 09:02, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that Sasha Cohen is no Michelle Kwan, but I thought her silver was well deserved. Her program was flawed, and I kept waiting for someone to do better. But besides Arakawa, nobody did. Juppiter 08:05, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. Please use the article Talk pages to discuss improving the article, not to discuss your thoughts about the subject of the article. Thanks for understanding. Jkelly 05:27, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that Sasha Cohen is one of the most sweet and loveliest girl in the world!— Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.134.255.253 (talk • contribs)

What nasty attitude? She even said herself that she didn't think she would make the podium. To my knowledge, she's never been arrogant or cocky about the way she skates. And why are you insulting her when you don't even know the name of the women who beat her? Arakawa by the way. --72.226.224.251 20:27, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WTF? What interview did you see that she had a "nasty attitude"? In every interview I've seen her in she admitted her mistakes and showed great poise and humility. And by the way what does this have to do with the actual Wikipedia article? Chiefmartinez 21:23, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kabbalah

If she wasn't so into it, she should NOT be wearing it at all. In all actuality, she is VERY much into it, having had more than one bracelet (when one fell off, she immediately replaced it with another), and follows all the basic tenets (superstition, if you will) of it. It's misleading (lying) to hide (deny) something that is so apparent to everyone else.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.188.116.72 (talk • contribs)

Please see Wikipedia:No original research. If you have a reliable source for this, we can reference it properly. Jkelly 02:26, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mathematics

Someone please edit this: It is not .03 points. It is .03 of a point. Thank you.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.188.116.72 (talk • contribs) .

In English, the two phrases mean the same thing. Jkelly 02:25, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Really? Even if something is <1 it's still plural? The announcers don't do that -- they specify of a second and usually say hundreths of a point/second.

I suspect that if one went looking, one would find some announcers using the plural. Jkelly 20:56, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They would be wrong. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 152.163.100.7 (talk • contribs) 02:10, 28 February 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Most likely, .03 of a point is the official terminology but .03 of a point can confuse some. .03 points just makes it easier for most to understand exactly what the score was. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.226.224.251 (talk • contribs) 22:45, 26 February 2006 (UTC).[reply]

The further dumbing down of wiki. *sigh* —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 152.163.100.7 (talk • contribs) 02:10, 28 February 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Actually, the only style guide citation I can find says that .03 of a point is incorrect. The correct presentation is three hundredths of a point. To compound matters, this business-related story released on the AP wire uses the phrasing 0.02 yen and 0.04 point.

That said, I think 0.03 points is sufficiently clear and does not need copyediting. —C.Fred (talk) 04:28, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Residence

According to this(http://www.nbcolympics.com/athletes/5061879/detail.html?qs=;t=11;tab=Bio) she recently purchased a house in Newport Beach, CA. I think that should be put in. IndyFan32589 09:24, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

She is indeed a beautiful skater, beautiful and talented, passionate and Juliet. She is very very humble and admits her mistakes, and I honestly think she is a good description of how we try to do our best but sometimes make mistakes. She is a ballerina on ice and has a cute personality. She is humble, so be quiet. She has funny times too. I think she deserved the silver medal for throwing herself into the music and feeling for it, passionate and graceful, like a swan.