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A lack of reliable third part sources necessary for WP:BLP. Also, publications don't seem notable and awards are regional, not enough to distinguish person as notable. Jimsteele9999 (talk) 14:47, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Delete, lack of third party coverage confirming notability. Jonathanwallace (talk) 16:26, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Keep, but agree this needs tighter focus, more information on national and international nominations and awards (2011 Hugo nomination as editor, frex), more 3rdP sourcing. Confusing a less-than-optimal article with the actual RL notability of the subject seems like an error, though. (Disclaimer: I also work in the US publishing industry.) IceCreamEmpress (talk) 09:14, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Keep absolutely. The Stoker, the Hugo and World Fantasy are hardly regional awards and alone would indicate "notable" works. The article could use some reorganization, but should absolutely not be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Edonald (talk • contribs) 12:52, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Keep, as the awards are hardly regional or insignificant (and nominations for them makes the publications de facto notable). The article does need to be cleaned up. --Yendi (talk) 13:08, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Keep The World Fantasy Award and the Hugo Award are hardly "regional" awards. They are the highest honors in the entire field of fantasy and science fiction, and even if you contend that they only apply to English works (which they don't by their own rules, although admittedly in practice mostly only English works get considered), that's still hardly "regional." Kevin Standlee (talk) 14:20, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Keep The World Fantasy Award is not regional. It's right in the name! JoeNotCharles (talk) 14:53, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Comment. The awards may in fact be world-wide, but his work was nominated and did not win. Seep WP:BIO. In order to clear notability he would also need third party coverage to establish notability, as noted above. Jimsteele9999 (talk) 15:00, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Comment. WP:BIO states WRT to notability and awards: "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for one several times." Mamatas has been nominated for the Bram Stoker award four times in four different categories (Long Fiction, First Novel, Short Fiction, Anthology) as noted in the entry. He qualifies as notable via WP:BIO—four certainly counts as "several," Incidentally, the fourth nomination is current—the Bram Stoker award winners for 2010 will be announced in June, so he may still win. Further, he now has, as of just over a week ago, a second Hugo nomination in a second category. Third party coverage already linked to in the entry includes a national NPR program ("On the Media") and a review essay by Laird Barron. This suggests that the call for deletion has little to do with notability guidelines and much to do with the occasional tendency by Wikipedia users to put up a lot of entries for deletion. There's really no debate to be had—the entry meets notability guidelines. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.164.93.88 (talk) 15:21, 3 May 2011 (UTC)