Talk:Blink-182

Name

Uh, are you sure it's blink with a lower case b?

Yeah. blink-182. EQuintan 01:34, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

New Discography

Who the hell put up that crappy new discography?!? It is very disjointed.

--30/12/05

How many members?

The article says the band consists of seven members, and then goes on to list three. Are there three or seven members? Markkawika 11:04, 30 September 2005 (UTC) There is really only three members in the band. (Scott Raynor the original drummer makes 4 hommie.)[reply]

Punk?

Is it really honest to call this band punk when you look at their music, politics and commercial drive? Politics eh? Its music man, don't read to deep into it. its punk rock - they say so themselves!!!!

It's sugarcoated mainstream music that tries to portay themselves as punk. Doesn't Ashlee Simpson try to say she's "punk' sometimes too? Hell I could call myself King of the World, would you bow to me then?

Comming from a kid who may or may not be punk rock. You might have a huge mohawk or piercings or such... and you think because of that, you are the punk rock authority. Punk rock was never about how many piercings or tats you can get to make your parents angry, its about the music. blink 182 has their style and its open to those who want to listen to it, if you don't like it, don't whine, whip out a preverbial ramones cd, and relish in the fact that you think your so punk rock. These guys have stuck to their style for 20 years, through fads, trends, and mtv, and are still the cool easy going guys they've ever been, albeit richer. Then again though,your the only person who knows punk rock music, and if it went on the radio, man oh man, you are instantly too cool for them.

Hardcore my ass

Not only that, but in the article the author said that the release of their untitled record brought them back into the hardcore scene, even though they never have and probably never will be a hardcore band. I highly doubt the author of this article even knows what hardcore sounds like, and it needs to be revised. In fact, I'm gonna do that right now.

By the way, the author of this article sounds like they're in 7th grade.

What's with the writing of this article? It starts of by saying that the band formed in 1991, yet Tom and Mark didn't meet until 92. Nice. --Vision4bg 07:39, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Tried to clean it up a bit. Lan3y - Talk 22:55, Feb 22, 2005 (UTC)

An article, not fan site

I threw out the back-and-forth about the band's possible breakup that had been dumped on top of the article - let's wait until there's an event worthy of an encyclopedia article before putting in material, please - and took out some first-person point of view. - DavidWBrooks 20:41, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Right, I have put a single sentence at the top now. I think that this should be placed in a prominent position, and together with the text at the bottom is sufficiently clear. Lan3y - Talk 21:31, Feb 23, 2005 (UTC)

I'm sorry

It wasn't my purpose to be racist, I am from Argentina, and hate that kind of agression towards me, but at first sight that comment from that girl sounded more like from a groupie. OK, I won't meke any comments like this in the future, not even think of them.

Thanx for making me realize my sillyness, I didn't meant to sound as a war-criminal,

Bye

Greedy

right who cares if they are teeny boopers do u even know what the word really means? huh? do ya? i dont think so.. they like blink because blink are so easy to like, they aare so funny and dont give a shit about anything but now they are mature so yeah...

The talk page is for commments, and the comment above suit the purposes of the talk page. For you to delete it is to ignore the comments above and discard them. It is up to the author to delete these comments, as they are on a talkpage instead of an article page. Also, your description as the "Mexican unnecesary comment" is incredibly racist and uncalled for. Go edit the Skrewdriver page and leave the human beings alone, war-criminal. --The Grza 08:39, Mar 22, 2005 (UTC)

Pop punk

They're pop punk. They're practically the definition of pop punk. Rhobite 00:31, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)

when they won the award for best new act or whatever i quote 'thanks guys and just keep on supporting punk rock, thankyou. SO YOU ARE WRONG THEY CALL THEMSELVES PUNK ROCK. - b1link82

Allmusicguide: [1] see "Styles". Google search [2] 62,000 hits. Please stop removing the fact that they're "pop punk". Rhobite 13:50, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)

So google is right and the band members are wrong, i am not allowed to call you an idiot but if i was allowed to i would. --B1link82 13:51, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Oh, what a clever way to get around "No personal attacks". I'm sorry, but they are pop-punk. User:Rhobite is correct. Lan3y - Talk 13:57, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)

i don't think anyone is teeny boopers because they just like what they want to like okay..

The band members aren't necessarily right about their genre just beacause they are the band members. In fact, I think they are less likely to recognise their genre, as bands don't usually listen to themselves an awful lot.

Poll

Ok, let's see if we can get some kind of consensus going here. What genre should the band be referred to in the article? Please sign votes. Lan3y - Talk 14:04, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)

~~This poll shall be considered closed on April 11 2005, at 0000UTC~~. Poll is now closed. I count 8 Pop punk and 1 Punk rock votes. The result is Pop punk. Lan3y - Talk 11:20, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)

Pop punk

It seems to be clear to me from their music that they are more punk rock than pop punk. Lan3y - Talk 14:04, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)
Of course they're pop punk. B1link82 please remember Wikipedia:No personal attacks and Wikipedia:Three revert rule. Rhobite 14:50, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)
they're pop punk. ALKIVAR™ 20:38, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Interesting... User:Alkivar's boyfriend now editing the main article. Katefan0 12:41, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)
now banned indefinately for impersonation (likely b1link82) ... cause it sure as fuck wasnt a bf since i'm single :) ALKIVAR™ 16:37, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Obvious. I can call myself a giant banana split, but that doesn't make me one. (Tasty!) Katefan0 20:38, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)
I'd vote for pop, but that isn't an option. So, I'm going with Pop Punk. --The Grza 22:30, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)
Pop. Definately. Kiand 13:10, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
BTW, the user User:Bl1nk82 is now vandalising the user pages of those who vote for 'pop'. And changing my user signature. Kiand 13:31, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- And he erased my comment. I think I'm flattered. Katefan0 15:43, Apr 8, 2005 (UTC)
Clearly. I don't see how anyone could dispute that they are both punk and pop. Since this issue has come up on multiple articles (e.g. Avril Lavigne, Green Day), it may be an issue worth discussing in depth in punk pop. Tuf-Kat 22:53, Apr 8, 2005 (UTC)
Commercialisation of the original punk idiom. Lots of emotion, hardly anti-establishment not nearly hardcore enough to call it emo. Definitely "Pop punk", I'm afraid. I happen to find it quite listenable, but not punk rock. Mike C 17:10, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
By all the definitions offered here, they count as pop punk. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 11:31, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
pop punk (or skater punk). Look Greenday are thought of as pop punk and they are much more punk than blink 182.

Punk rock

punk rock because they band say they are, obviously Lan3y knows more about the band than mark and tom, an example of Stupidity. Unsigned vote by User:B1link82
b1link82 is right they are a punk rock band along with green day, new found glory etc.... Unsigned vote by anonymous User:84.67.4.49

Please see [3]. This vote is the user's sole contrib. Lan3y - Talk 21:22, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)

This IP belongs to the UK ISP, Energis. The offending user in this case is in the UK. Horribly tenous link, but... Kiand 13:31, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

In fact, the user in question *does* use Energis, so I'm going to call w:sockpuppet on this one. Kiand 16:16, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Definitely Punk Rock as attitude, but pop punk as music, even that their last disc sounds as Punk Rock, let's ask Greg Graffin... Punk rock is [what 4.40.35.15 said] or even punk, a style or genre that varies (and varied) along history so, who we are to consider or categorize a band? Categorization is a commercial resource, along with trends and fashion, so let's don't focus on categories, and make a deeper analysis of the situation... ----Greedyredbag 03:37, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Neutral

Googling for "pop punk" "blink-182" produces 66,400 results; "punk rock" "blink-182" produces 222,000 results. FWIW... -- ChrisO 15:18, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- and also for what its worth: Results 1 - 100 of about 911,000 for "pop" "blink 182". ALKIVAR™ 18:21, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Blink-182 obviously wants to call themselves punk, and they have a right to. Are any of you in succesful bands that make albums as good as "Dude Ranch" or the other albums? No you are not. That's what I thought. Punk is a genre that has changed since it first came around. Blink-182, especially new blink-182, is obviously not like the Ramones, nor are they as new-punk as, say, NOFX. Also, Punk should transcend politics. The topics blink-182 choose to sing about are fine by me as long as they continue to be good. Please, do not compare blink-182 to Avril Lavigne.

That means fuck all you idiot pop is a short word and pop can mean loads of things.

Lovely above missive by User:B1link82. Katefan0 12:52, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)

If 'pop punk' won the poll, why does the article say 'punk rock'? I'm going to change it now, hope that's ok.

Oh for christ's sakes why the hell do you all have to argue about every single bloody band's genre?? no band can be restricted to any one genre. NO BAND.Anyway, whats the big difference between punk, punk rock and pop punk?

joke

This is a joke how can you wrongly classify a band???????? you lot are insane!

blink 182 in their early years they were mostly punk rock..
but now their recent album is more pop punk...

Angels and Airwaves

Recently, information has surfaced regarding Delonge's solo album. According to the United States Patent and Trademark Office, he registered the name "Angels and Airwaves" on June 24th 2005 and also claimed that "It is so much more powerful, emotional and melodic than Box Car and Blink put together". Many are skeptical regarding the authenticiy of the statement and the project itself and it is confirmed that the supposed Angels and Airwaves website is not official, that's the reason why it is using a UK domain name. Anyway it is assumed that the band's MySpace page has been registered by Geffen. This statement, along with much of the information disclosed about reasons for the break, presents a greater sense of ambiguity.

The domain is registered to David Rossiter, who stated on the supposed Angels and Airwaves website this: "Hey guys, I've seen loads of comments on other forums or postings in news articles questioning whether this site is official. No, is the answer, it is not an official website, but it is officially the first fan site for the band! Please join this board and start building up an awesome community. A website will follow shortly, stay tuned!"

The whois lookup for the domains "angelsandairwaves.com" and "angelsandairwaves.net" leave Geffen Records as the owner of both of them, since May 11, 2005... so this may have been planned since a long time.

I hope this helps to clarify things a little. Someone please add some of this information to the article. --Greedy 22:32, 11 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Request clarification: Radio codeword

Regarding this phrase from the article:

"...Travis stated that the "182" was the U.S. radio codeword meaning 'homicide' (apparently confusing "182", the radio codeword for conspiracy, for "187")."

Could someone please clarify what is meant by a radio codeword for conspiracy? Is the word 'radio' referring to U.S. commercial broadcasters? Perhaps it refers to U.S. law enforcement, but 'conspiracy' seems an odd (and rather nebulous) crime to require a code number. Thanks to anyone who might be able to clear this up.

Reedit the last article about the "divorce"

It's big, messy and not so clarifying. I think it should be edited significantly so that it can summarise the whole situation about the band current status. Otherwise I don't see need for so much information. Most peoeple new to the band won't give a shit and won't read it at all. Better something smaller, but tighter and stricter. Painbearer 10:43, 26 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Songs lost stubs etc..

I care little for the music category, but i noticed that there are allot of satelite floater pages like this one [4]. --..micky 07:59, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Feel Sorry For The Youth of Today

This band is far from punk rock, I don't care what google says; only one of you really understood what punk and/or hardcore is. I'm older than most of you probably, take it from someone more experienced. I really feel sorry for the music that young people have to grow up with today; it's boring, there's no edge, no angst, and, I find this most disturbing, safe. People can have many debates as to what a genuine punk sound is, in many ways there isn't one; however, there is one thing everyone in the know agrees about, that's the attiude. And it has nothing to do with how you dress or look, and to many extents, even sound, but moreso what you say and how you act. Prissy, "safe", PC, SoCal boys with nothing to say, or, more importantly, nothing to be pissed off about, or not in the business of pissing other people off are NOT the punk attiude. Gordon Gecko is more punk rock than these guys, and I mean that literally, don't let the wing tips and expensive suits fool you. If you're looking for REAL SoCal punk, pick up an old Circle Jerks album, Black Flagg, Operation Ivy, you want to go real old school, The Germs. I mean it when I say I feel really sorry for young people today. Usually it's the kids looking down at the parents for being "square" or not "hip" or not "getting it"; now the parents will be looking down on their kids for being that. Excercise and open up your brain, I still have faith in some of you; take it from someone who remembers when MTV first aired and watched it "evolve" if you can even call it that, it's a sham.

This talk page is used for discussions on ways to improve the article. If you have a suggestion which would improve Wikipedia's coverage of Blink-182, it is welcome here. Comments intended only to praise or complain about the band are not appropriate here. Rhobite 16:16, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You really need to climb off of your throne and relax. -Grandmaster Shaft

Granted, I may have got side tracked, but that was my intention; I agree, I think it got lost in my own editorilizing, there just seemed to be a lengthy and very misinformed discussion "categorizing" this band. If you want to categorize this band, it should be pop, or pop-punk at best; taking definitions of what music is from Google I just find absurd. Now-a-days people take the Internet (Google, whatever)as the Gospel of All Knowing Truth and Fact. How many times have you been having a conversation/argument with someone and their comeback is, "I read it on the internet."?? I apologize for the rant. <<<< didn't sign name

- Ray of Today sang Break Down the Walls, let's think about that.**

NO I AM MORE PUNK THAN YOU ARE! How's that pedastle you are standing on? My problem is this: When did Fugazi become a hardcore band?

I haven't listened to blink 182 since the week I listened to Dude Ranch in middle school, but I was reading this page out of curiousity. blink 182 made some money, but treat their friends and family well. Ray Cappo helped create a violent subculture and then decided that all his friends weren't good enough and drinks wine now. Who is are the assholes?

18:42, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Plus 44 sixty second song?

Hello everyone, I removed the sentence On February 26, 2006 a sixty-second clip of a song was released that many suspect is Plus-44. The clip has a very electronic, synth feel to it, and would be a huge change of pace for punk rock veterans, Mark Hoppus and Travis Barker.. If anyone has any sources for this please post them here. --Greedy 03:49, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Easy Target-Holly?

Does anyone have any information about "Holly" from Easy Target?

I know some things... Holly appears also on All of This (the song after Easy Target)... that is because it was meant to be the same song at the beginning of the recording. And I think that Mark or Tom answered somewhere that the character (Holly) was inspired by a mean girl that a friend of them used to know. --Greedy 17:21, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]