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Questions?

1) Why was Guerena taken in his own home? This is the most dangerous place, as any "suspect" can barricade himself. Why not at work? He worked at the ASARCO mine, security is tight there (they stock/use explosives). He would have had to pass a background check just to work there, so I think Guerena is innocent. 2) Guerena was a vet marine, Very familiar with an M-16, which is almost identical to the AR-15 reported that he was armed with. He Must have known he had it on safe, and, deliberately, and not been willing to take the first shot. And, being an ex-Marine, he was probably very disciplined. If innocent, why challenge the cops at all? Her must not have know who they were--they must not have identified themself, as "they " claimed. 3) Why would a "suspect" carefully secrete his family, then challenge the intruders with something like:"I've got something for you" ? This makes No Sense. Anyone facing intruders woukld simply open fire or say, like; "Drop it" or "Get Out". 4) Why the conflicting stories?: Was he crouched in the doorway (a sniping position), or, was he standing in the hall (defensively)? 5) One report says Money in house, one doesn't . So, there was Money in the house, so what? How much? 6) SWAT team reported:"weapons, body armor". So, What? I see body armor and automatic machine guns, short rifles and shotguns, etc, for sale openly at AZ gun shows. Also, what cionstitues "weapons"? One old .22? A few antique flintlocks? Vintage 1898 Mausers? Or AK-47's? A Definition is in order. 7) Dupnik gag-ordered this. Yey, some members of SWAT tream are coming forward. They risk their jobs doing this, so they have something to say. 8)So, search warrants were served in other "houses in vicinity". So, What? This doesn't necessarily imply guilt. 9) Guerena was denied medical attention One Hour. Chester Manning, Republican candidate for new Pima County Sheriff, and others agree a scene is "secured in 5 minutes, unless bomb squad needs be brought in"..which it Wasn't. This delay is inexcusable. The are was :"secure" when Guerena was down and his rifle taken--5 minutes on the outside. 10) This is just another example of Pima County and/or TPD concentrating on "small fry" to make it look like they are doing their job when they can't get a grasp on the Real Problems--drug cartels from Mexico. And, not caring how many lives they destroy--they "rationalize" it with "erring on the side of safety" (Sheriff Apaio of Maricopa County) or;"How many cops are shot in NYC last year", and other irrelevant garbage. 11) Such overreaction might imply Steoid use--were the men later drug-tested? 12) A SWAT team for a home invasion suspect? Maybe for a big Drug seller or mfgr, but Home Invasion? Get Real! Beat cops can take a situation like this. 13) This time they have gone too far--a decorated ex-marine, good job, familty, two tours in Iraq--they won't get away with it and the entire State will face a class-action suit. Apaiapo and Dupnik and TPD's police chief won't be able to flip burgers in Douglas when the smoke clears. 'Bout time!68.231.184.217 (talk) 12:43, 28 May 2011 (UTC) 14)How can we get the federal government to investigate this incident? I understand that this is not the only serious error on the side of caution. 15)Can we start a petition to get the feds to look into this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krissylynny (talkcontribs) 16:37, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Questions asked by WP:reliable sources - in either opinion pieces or by quoting other sources - can be introduced, if done in appropriate encyclopedic fashion. CarolMooreDC (talk) 01:51, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]