Talk:Scheduled monument

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How many Scheduled Ancient Monuments are there? It would be nice to have a list of all of them on Wikipedia. dbenbenn | talk 05:04, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have been searching for online lists of the Scheduled Ancient Monuments in order to populate the categories here and at the commons. The English Heritage website seems to be fairly useless, but putting Scheduled Ancient Monument into the advanced search at Images of England gives 1011 results. Historic Scotland are better as they have a searchable database of Scheduled Ancient Monuments, of which they claim there are about 8000 in Scotland. The Royal Commision on the Ancient and Historical Monuments of Wales has an online database called coflein—I haven't spent much time with this yet, but I couldn't work out whether or not everything in the database is a Scheduled Ancient Monument (I think not, but it doesn't say). JeremyA 06:08, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It would be quite a list. The usual number given is somewhere over 20,000. In 1993, Hunter and Ralston's Archaeological Resource Management in the UK (IFA/Sutton, p46) gave 13,000 in England, 5,300 in Scotland and 2,700 in Wales. Of these, only around 1,000 are in state hands and not privately owned. The number will have risen since then as more SAMs are created than are descheduled. It was estimated in the late 1980s that there were a further 60,000 sites of National Importance deserving scheduling and this number will certainly have risen since PPG 16. 10:34, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

According to English Heritage there are 18,300 entries on the english schedule, at 31,400 sites. --VinceBowdren 23:33, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fortunately,Wikipedia is not paper. DGG (talk) 19:21, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New Navbox

I have drafted the {{Heritage protection in the United Kingdom}} navbox template, aiming to bring together scheduled monuments, listed buildings, monuments records, etc. Comments suggestions and improvements from anyone interested would be welcome (on the template talk page). Regards, Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk) 21:00, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Updating and references

I am going to have a go at adding more references and citations for this article. At the same time, I was thinking of expanding it to include sections on criteria for designation, how a monument is protected and managed, and more depth on the legislation so that it follows a similar structure to the other articles on heritage structures. Does anyone have any comments? FGLawson (talk) 11:58, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think that would be very useful. I'd also like to see a bit about the history of the protection of ancient monuments in the UK, which goes back to the 1880s (or thereabouts), and is much older than protection of buildings. Just looking through the article there, I spotted the reference to Rosslyn Chapel as a scheduled monument - strictly speaking only the basement and churchyard are scheduled, not the part in use. According to Scottish Historic Environment Policy, "A structure in use as a dwelling house cannot be scheduled as an ancient monument nor can buildings in ecclesiastical use" [1], section 2.10. It would be worth clarifying what can and cannot be protected under this designation, and whether this varies between the different home nations. I'll keep an eye on the article and maybe chip in when I can. Thanks, Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk) 13:09, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou very much for tidying up all these points on references and style - I was going to get around to it but ran out of steam - and you've made it read much better. Thanks. Is there anything else that you think needs adding to this page? FGLawson (talk) 08:12, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]