Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bizovne
Bizovne
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09 June 2011
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Just a few days have passed since the expiration of the last block given to Bizovne and he seems to have resumed his old habits of "emphasizing his point" with additional socks if necessary. This happened most prominently at the Ányos Jedlik article, which seems to be his favorite one ([1], [2] and [3]). So when the other editors didn't relent, he just used his first IP then his second just to "emphasize his point". I'm not sure why's he doing this, but if you check the edit logs of the IP addresses (especially 195.28.75.114) you'll see that he's already done this in the past. He has first proceeded to confirm his sockpuppetry by using a forged signature, then he's revealed that both IPs are his by replying on my talk page using his IPs (please see the translation section for details).
All of the events detailed above have happened in the past few days right after his month-long block has expired. Essentially the only difference between the current situation and the one from a month ago (before he was blocked) that he didn't call me a Fascist this time.
Still, there's one more interesting thing about Bizovne's edits and behavior: when doing his reverts he's marked most of them as "minor edits" and stated that he's reverting vandalism, just like Iaaasi did (see [4] and [5]). It's also apparent that at least two of Bizovne's edits ([6] and [7]) were reverts of one of Stubes99's socks, which's also Iaaasi's favorite "hobby" on WP (see [8], [9] and [10]). Both these clues seem to point to meatpuppetry..... -- CoolKoon (talk) 21:25, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Additional note for (unacquainted) admins: Unfortunately I'm 99.9% positive that sockpuppetry will NOT be confirmed for any of the users mentioned above or below (i.e. Iaaasi, Bizovne and Stubes99). Iaaasi is a Romanian editor from Romania (puppet master no. 1), which's confirmed even by some of his edits in Romanian. Bizovne is a Slovak editor from eastern Slovakia, proof of the former is his countless entries in Slovak either on my talk page or at the Zsófia Bosnyák talk page. The problem with the latter is that he seems to be taking detailed orders from/coordinated by Iaaasi and to a quite detailed degree (i.e. that Bizovne is a meatpuppet of Iaaasi). This is evidenced e.g. by "parallel" edits on Commons and EN WP which seem like they were made by the same person: first Iaaasi requests a checkuser for Darkercastel, then a few hours later Bizovne requests an SPI against the same editor on Wikipedia (since Iaaasi's blocked on EN WP), which shows some quite close coordination.
Stubes99 on the other hand is a Hungarian editor/puppet master (puppet master no. 2) which's evidenced by the fact that he concentrates solely on Hungarian-related topics (no Romanian or Slovak editor would do that). Now this editor has somehow managed to annoy Iaaasi to the point where he became obsessed with hunting sockpuppets of Stubes99. Iaaasi has became so obsessed with reporting Stubes99's socks in fact that he's created additional sockpuppets just so that he can report and revert the edits of Stubes99's sockpuppets. Therefore it's quite suspicious if an unaffiliated user (short of admins of course) begins to revert and report Stubes99's socks. I hope that this has cleared things up a bit. -- CoolKoon (talk) 21:17, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
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Also, it is more than obvious that Bizovne is a meatuppet of Iaaasi. According to this ANI-report on 27 April 2011
- "Banned user Iaaasi is sending e-mails to myself and at least two other editors in attempt to get people to edit Wikipedia on his behalf. He says that if people don't file sock puppet reports and do his bidding in other ways, it means he is allowed to engage in sock puppetry. I have cut off his e-mail access but he already has the addresses of several users."
- On 29 April 2011 User:Bizovne displayed the same map on his user page as what was on the user page of Iaaasi [11] with which the user plainly signed that became a recruited meat-puppet of Iaaasi, in my opinion.
- Two days ago, Bizone initiated a checkuser request at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Stubes99 [12] on which page, the most active participant is Iaaasi [13] and his sockpuppets[14][15] [16] [17] [18]
- Yesterday, following me to the article Stephen Bocskay, reverted me [19] and the next user who edited this article was user:Dadamereu [20] against whom there is an ongoing checkuser request as to whether the user is Iaaasi, or isn't. For more information about this checkuser request,which is closely related to this one, you can find here: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Iaaasi
- And in addition, yesterday Bizovne commenced even one another checkuser investigation concerning Stubes99 [21]--Nmate (talk) 09:01, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- User:Dadamereu has been blocked as a sockpuppet of Iaaasi which is, I believe, a sufficient proof of Bizovne being a meatpuppet of Iaaasi.--Nmate (talk) 15:13, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- In my opinion, user Nmate does not like Slovak editors (just look at his blocking history and his activity on Wikipedia). I don't know lassi and Nmate's allegations are ridiculous. Good night to all :) --Bizovne (talk) 22:28, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
- On hold pending further investigation, hoping to be back in 1 or 2 days. Poke me on my TP if i'm not back. -- DQ (t) (e) 03:41, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Clerk endorsed - This is the reason for the original hold. I see quite a bit of relation to Iaaasi and Stubbes99, i'm leaning that this is more complicated, but can we check to see if they match either sock? -- DQ (t) (e) 15:12, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Clerk note: I have considered the evidence that this is not a likely behaoviral case, but I think there is something were missing, and that's why I endorsed. I won't have any issues with a CU declining this. -- DQ (t) (e) 21:19, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
