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Grammar

This protected article has quite a few grammatical mistakes in it. Perhaps the author should go over it more thoroughly and correct those. Take the closing sentence, for instance:

"In Indonesia bee larvae are eaten as accompanion to rice, after mixed with shredded coconut "meat", wrapped in banana leaves, and steamed."

There is no such word as "accompanion" in the English language: a simpler, more grammatically correct clause would read: "bee larvae are eaten with rice dishes" or even simply "with rice".

Also, "after mixed with shredded coconut meat" should be either "after being mixed with coconut meat" or "after they are mixed with coconut meat..." There's obviously an ellipse in the original, and the word "meat" after coconut should not have quotes around it for any reason. The flesh of the coconut is simply called its meat; there's nothing unique or peculiar about that.

These are just examples from one sentence. In other words the article probably ought to be flagged for clean-up.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.186.159.39 (talk • contribs) 21:23, 18 September 2009

CCD 'definitively' solved?

In contradiction to this WP:BOLD edit by Walks on Water, the NYT article referenced is peppered with words like 'appears', 'suspect', 'apparently' and 'clues'. And anyway, if major scientific breakthroughs are going to be reported as fact, we usually expect a slew of undisputed, peer-reviewed scientific papers to back them up, not one report in the popular press. I suggest the celebrations be toned down a bit until more clear facts are reliably published. --Nigelj (talk) 07:12, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The NYT article is not the primary source; the primary source is published, linked on the CCD article (where it belongs), and fairly definitive. For something that affects only one bee species out of >20K, it already gets more space here than is really warranted, and this latest edit, though "bold", is a fair summary. Dyanega (talk) 07:19, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've replaced the secondary source (NYT) with the original source (PLoS). Dyanega (talk) 16:59, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, apart from tinkering with the source, no one has done anything about the words like 'appears', 'suspect', 'apparently' and 'clues' in the NYT article. Following the discussion going on at Talk:Colony collapse disorder#Update tag, apparently even one of the authors of the paper has gone on record saying CCD is not "solved". What has been found is a correlation, not a cause, let alone a cure. Please see Correlation does not imply causation; saying "the declines were definitively traced to a fungus and a virus" in this article is clearly misleading at this stage in the science. --Nigelj (talk)

Fixed the wording accordingly. Dyanega (talk) 18:09, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please add Russian interwiki

Please add interwiki-link on article in Russian language: [[ru:Пчёлы]]. I myself cannot do that because the article is semi-protected for editing by non-registered anonymous users. Thanks in advance! 109.72.73.139 (talk) 01:02, 3 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

done Sean.hoyland - talk 13:59, 3 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bee population decline

There's nothing in the article about the decline of the European honey bees over the past years. There's an excellent article here that may serve as the basis for a new section on the phenomenon and one of its causes. The decline in bee population is threatening pollination of crops and production of honey, among other things. I don't have time to write about it, but perhaps a frequent contributor to the article would be interested in doing so.—D'Ranged 1 ^talk 21:58, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I came looking for the same info:

* http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1270698/Bees-face-extinction-billions-colonies-die-worldwide.html

* http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1545516/Honey-bees-in-US-facing-extinction.html

* http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/04/24/2552327.htm

* http://www.irishweatheronline.com/features-2/murfs-nature-notes/murf%E2%80%99s-nature-notes-the-plight-of-the-bumble-bee/19992.html

* http://www.movingpicturesnetwork.com/28763/queen-sun-documentary-review/

Sailorsun (talk) 03:10, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]