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Speedy deletion nomination of Mekarsari Orchard

A tag has been placed on Mekarsari Orchard, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising that only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

If you can indicate why the subject of this article is not blatant advertising, you may contest the tagging. To do this, please add {{hangon}} on the top of Mekarsari Orchard and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would help make it encyclopedic, as well as adding any citations from independent reliable sources to ensure that the article will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this.  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 22:42, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Adoption offer

Greetings Erik Evrest, I see you're up for adoption, and I'm in the market. If ever you need advice or answers, just ask me -- any question, any time. I'd like to help however I can. Happy editing - Draeco (talk) 17:51, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to use your bot, it should be approved at Wikipedia:Bot Approvals Group as Beeblebrox outlines below. - Draeco (talk) 04:40, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand. What "is away"? - Draeco (talk) 05:51, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, still befuddled - Draeco (talk) 06:09, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry friend, but I simply can't understand what you're asking me. Perhaps you should contact Indonesian-speaking users as described below. Best of luck - Draeco (talk) 04:29, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Nur Fathiah Diaz

A tag has been placed on Nur Fathiah Diaz requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. andy (talk) 08:40, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Username Concern (moved here from User talk:Erik E VestBot)

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that your username may not meet Wikipedia's username policy because It contains "bot". If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. As an alternative, you may file for a change of username, or you may simply create a new account and use that for editing. Thank you. Erik Evrest]] December21st2012Freak chat 18:24, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just to clarify the reasoning behind this, there are robot accounts here on Wikipedia, automated processes that have their own accounts, and their usernames all end in "bot" so they can be easily identified as such. Your name suggests you are one of those and not a "human" editor. To avoid this confusion we ask that usernames not end in "bot." Thanks for your understanding. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:46, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I looked at your contributions, and it seems you may also be editing as User:Erik Evrest. If this is intended as an alternate account then it must be clearly identified as such or it may be blocked as a sockpuppet account. Please address both of these issues promptly. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:54, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

your alleged bot

I have some questions about this bot. Let's start with what does it do? And did you get approval from the bot approval group before activating it? And is it really a bot at all or are you just making that up? I am going to block the "bot" until there are satisfactory answers to these questions. You seem to misunderstand the purpose of Wikipedia, it is first and foremost an encyclopedia. Almost all of your edits so far have been to your own user page. This isn't Facebook. Although many Wikipedians have elaborate user pages, they also actually contribute to the project. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:22, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • If you could actually answer these questions instead of continuing to monkey around with the blocked account's pages that would be great. You shouldn't remove a block notice from anyone's talk page, including your own, it's one of the few things you can't do on your own talk page. Beeblebrox (talk) 03:12, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hello again Erik, I see that you're running afoul of some things here on Wikipedia, and our administrators have noticed. Any further trouble could seriously hinder your ability to contribute. I offered (above) to help you out anytime you asked, and the offer still stands...follow this link to ask me anything on my talk page. I'd love to help. - Draeco (talk) 04:01, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template

Terima kasih banyak telah dibuatkan template. Tetapi saya sendiri juga tidak bisa menjawab. Mungkin lebih baik tanya pengguna lain, seperti Jack Merridew atau Merbabu. Mereka bisa berbahasa Indonesia pula.

Selain itu himbauan para admin di sini jangan dihiraukan. Mereka lebih galak daripada di Wikipedia Indonesia lho. Salam! Meursault2004 (talk) 07:52, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Translation as requested by Beeblebrox:

Thanks for the template. However I am not able to answer to it. Probably it's better to ask other users like Jack Merridew or Merbabu. They are able to speak Indonesian as well.

Please do not ignore the admins here. They are stricter than in the Indonesian language Wikipedia. Cheers!. Meursault2004 (talk) 08:30, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ada lagi tambahan dari subject itu. Ada istilah pelarangan, dimana sang pengguna secara resmi dilarang bersumbangsih kepada Wikipedia. Bisa mulai dari berbulan-bulan, hingga bertahun-tahun, sampai permanen. Biasanya, sang pengguna sudah benar-benar tidak bisa menyunting apa-apa, karena kebebasan untuk mengedit talk page sendiri sudah ikut dilarang. Akan tetapi, setiap pengguna dapat menggunakan email untuk dicabut laranganya.

There's additional information with compliments of the subject. A ban (which in-evidently, is different from a ban) is a formal revocation of editing privileges from Wikipedia. It ranges from a month to an annual ban, and up to indefinite bans. Usually, users are unable to edit any page, since the administrator or bureaucrat banning the account removes the privilege of editing the user's own talk page. However, un-banning can always be done via email to the banning admin/'crat.----Boeing7107isdelicious|SPRiCh miT meineN PiloteN 11:32, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Question

Tidak apa-apa. Tidak perlu minta maaf wong tidak berbuat apa-apa kok :-)

English: Never mind. No need to apologize, you haven't done anything wrong :-) Meursault2004 (talk) 07:54, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey

Tidak hanya Anda bersumbangsih dengan sangat impresif, user page Anda, sangat mengesankan, ce'st exquisite!

Not only you are contributing to Wikipedia impressively, your userpage is extraordinary, ce'st exquisite!----Boeing7107isdelicious|SPRiCh miT meineN PiloteN 11:21, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reog (Ponorogo)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Reog (Ponorogo)

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english?

Bagaimana - belum mengerti di atas? Do you have the use of comprehension of english - do you understand the 2 lots of messages above? otherwise you should not be editing on wp en - if you repeat it s 3rd time expect to have sanctions - even -blocked for nuisance editing! SatuSuro 10:21, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reply

Hi again!
1. There is a difference between User:WhisperToMe/Userboxes/NoMo and User:Si Gam Acèh/No Prophet Muhammad Images
The first expresses a personal opinion and a stance on a Wikipedia controversy in a pleasing tone
The second argues that all Muslims take/should take a stance and asked for a rebellion/revolt if it did not get its way.
However the issue regarding your proposed template is that it may be considered to be inflammatory to have a template saying "X should not be an administrator" since it puts focus on a person (as in a Wikipedia editor) rather than the content. The "Nomo" template is entirely focused on the content.
But I do not know the exact userbox rules for the Indonesian Wikipedia. The best place to ask the question is a noticeboard or an administrator on there.
Thank you
WhisperToMe (talk) 15:18, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I had the impression that it was going to be a userbox. After all the "Nomo" template is a userbox.
Again, I would ask admins on the Indonesian Wikipedia on whether such a userbox would be acceptable.
WhisperToMe (talk) 00:07, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked

Anda diblokir karena melakukan canvassing dan provokasi. Kalau tidak ingat yang mana, itu saat Anda menyebarkan templat dan pesan untuk memblokir Albertus Aditya. Ini sudah jadi keputusan seluruh dewan pengurus, jadi saya tidak bisa apa-apa. Introspeksi saja ya :) Salam. Mimihitam (talk) 08:01, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Canvassing dan provokasi itu sejenis, karena dua-duanya bersifat menghasut. Oh iya, pengguna siluman sama sekali tidak diperbolehkan di wikipedia :) Kecuali bila ada alasan yang kuat, seperti pada: Wikipedia:SOCK#LEGIT. Kalau mau silakan buat satu yang baru, Erik Evrest (alt) atau bebas, tapi jangan u/ yang aneh-aneh. Salam. Mimihitam (talk) 08:40, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fisinya lebih lemah dan kuat? Boleh tahu dari kamus mana? Intinya sih satu: menghasut, dan tindakan Anda digolongkan menghasut. Apa bedanya dengan gerakan yang lain? Gerakan yang lain melakukannya dengan nada yang netral, tetapi hasutan Anda malah menunjukkan nada yang menghasut dengan adanya ajakan pemblokiran yang sebenarnya tidak relevan. Ini sudah menjadi keputusan dewan pengurus yang tidak dapat diganggu gugat, jadi introspeksi saja :) Soal SockPuppet, saya tidak berhak membuka blokirannya, apalagi yang blokir bukan saya. Tidak ada salahnya kan buat akun alternatif yang baru satu buah? Salam. Mimihitam (talk) 09:32, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Canvassing itu untuk diri sendiri/kelompok sendiri? Provokasi itu melebih2kan keburukan orang? Definisi dari kamus mana itu? Merriam Webster? KBBI? Boleh tahu? Padahal dalam KBBI provokasi salah satu maknanya "tindakan menghasut; penghasutan", tidak ada pelebihan keburukan orang sama sekali. Canvassing yang dilarang menurut Wikipedia:Canvassing adalah yang "bertujuan memengaruhi" (with the intention of influencing), yang dalam kata lain menghasut, dan di sini tidak ada "untuk diri sendiri atau kelompok"nya. Saya rasa penekanan ini sudah sangat jelas. Dan saya garis bawahi untuk yang terakhir kalinya untuk menerangkan mengapa Anda diblokir, "hasutan Anda malah menunjukkan nada yang menghasut dengan adanya ajakan pemblokiran yang sebenarnya tidak relevan."
Sudah ya, saya rasa tidak ada gunanya berpanjang-panjang di sini :) Introspeksi diri saja. Salam. Mimihitam (talk) 11:50, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Perbedaannya sudah saya katakan kok di atas. "Gerakan yang lain melakukannya dengan nada yang netral, tetapi hasutan Anda malah menunjukkan nada yang menghasut dengan adanya ajakan pemblokiran yang sebenarnya tidak relevan." Di WBI, kalau pengurus mau memblokir, ada daftar alasan yang bisa dipilih (seperti vandalisme, memberikan informasi palsu, dll), dan salah satunya canvassing. Dan juga, pemblokiran karena canvassing ini disetujui oleh seluruh dewan pengurus, sehingga menjadi sah. Salam. Mimihitam (talk) 02:17, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sudah berkali-kali saya bilang di atas, Si Gam Aceh dan yang lain tidak karena "Gerakan yang lain melakukannya dengan nada yang netral, tetapi hasutan Anda malah menunjukkan nada yang menghasut dengan adanya ajakan pemblokiran yang sebenarnya tidak relevan." Ngomong-ngomong, sejak kapan google images dipakai sebagai referensi? Dimana-mana masalah definisi itu sahnya cari di kamus, merriam-webster, KBBI, oxford, atau lainnya :) Dasarnya di atas sih sudah jelas.
Oh iya, saya rasa nggak ada gunanya berputar-putar di sini. Sekali lagi, introspeksi saja :) Sekian ya, ga enak juga di wiki orang malah pakai bahasa asing. Mimihitam (talk) 03:58, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Blokir

Itu keputusan pengurus Wiki id.Stephen (talk) 18:21, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Canvassing

No, sorry. The reason is legitimate. Meanwhile, I respectfully ask you to communicate Indonesian Wikipedia problems there, not here. Write on your discussion page. You can alert my by email. Gombang (talk) 03:52, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually Si Gam Aceh may be wrong, but the issue itself (Prophet Muhammad images) needs discussion. Your issue, in the other hand, doesn't need one. Anyway, if you want to use Indonesian let's move to your talk page in WPID. Gombang (talk) 08:26, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You were campaigning and votestacking, and presented the message for voting in non-neutral manner, which is certainly canvassing. Note that I never used the word "provocation". Gombang (talk) 11:35, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You were asking around to remove Albertus Aditya from adminship, weren't you. That is clearly campaigning. Gombang (talk) 12:05, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Read again the link you yourself provided. You are clearly guilty of canvassing, and because you have done that before, can be blocked without warning. I am done here. I guess you don't understand English (I will happily explain it in Indonesian at your talk page). Gombang (talk) 12:42, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Re: (Bukan) Pengakuan Terlarang

Template:Id Seperti yang Pak Stephen katakan di atas, itu adalah keputusan para pengurus di Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia. Menurut saya, jalani saja apa yang menjadi keputusan, sambil menginstropeksi diri dan meyakinkan diri agar tidak mengulangi hal serupa. Bagi saya pribadi, hal tersebut bukan suatu masalah, dan saya tidak pernah merasa dendam kepada setiap saja yang berbuat tidak baik kepada saya, karena sesuai Injil yang saya amini, yang kutipannya telah Anda sampaikan sendiri. Saya memaafkan Anda, tetapi bukan hak saya untuk mencabut pemblokiran tersebut. Salam. Albert (talk) 13:04, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

PS: Sebaiknya benar yang dikatakan Mas Gombang, didiskusikan saja di Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia.

Re:New Message in Indonesian Wikipedia

Saya sudah memberikan suara Erik. RaymondSutanto (talk) 13:32, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

re selamatkan aku

di usahankan Bro Masrudin (talk)

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