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Redirect

"Home Security" links here. It needs it's own article though. Home Security and Burglar Alarms are not similar enough to have an ambiguation link.

Sources are outdated. This article needs updating.

The sources quoted and the information contained in this article are far outdated and should be updated immediately.

Sources

The following source is not link spam:

Then what is it? -Will Beback 20:41, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The source material. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.34.68.186 (talk) 00:35, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Broadband

Warrenlead (talk) 05:22, 12 April 2008 (UTC) The Section on Broadband is definitely outdated. There are new products out now that use Internet plus GPRS Mobile Broadband with fall back to PSTN. These systems out perform all current standards. see http://www.uhssystems.com/products.php[reply]

Original Research

There are a bunch of sections describing various types of alarm sensors that end with a conclusion section. This is blatant original research, and should be removed as per WP:SYN. -- Javawizard (talk) 05:09, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Could you site some specific examples? I believe I can fix them (without deletion) if I knew what the specific contended sections are. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.34.68.186 (talk) 00:37, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

unprofessional

"Burglar (or intrusion), fire, and safety alarms are all electronic today." The opening sounds like something from uncyclopedia. This whole article should be updated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.27.58.80 (talk) 06:16, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done, albeit belatedly, 92.236.88.188 (talk) 10:41, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Silent alarms

We don't have an article on silent alarms? That's what I came here looking for. I definitely don't get why Silent Alarm (an album) would be the primary topic for that subject. I had to search to find Silent Alarm (moved), which redirected here. I don't get why Silent Alarm (moved) redirects to Burglar alarm, as they are commonly used to alert of a robbery, rather than a burglary. I guess I'll have to go elsewhere to learn about those things, though. How odd. Heather (talk) 05:54, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Smoke, heat, CO

I'd like to find out more about this. In my limited exposure to fire alarm installations, the fire alarm was required to be strictly separate from the intrusion detection and access control systems (right down to not sharing the same conduits for wiring). What sort of installation would use smoke and heat detectors connected to the intrusion panel? How does this get reported? If there's an attended security desk and the alarm says "Smoke in Conference Hall", then the security guys will call the fire department; but a building with an attended security desk is probably big enough to require a separate fire system anyway. As for CO, wouldn't you want the fire department to respond instead of the fuzz? They'd be equipped for it, whereas a police officer won't have a respirator and will have to call the fire department anyway once he's on-site and recognizes the source of the alarm. I suppose if you have, say, ammonia refrigeration (curling rink) or chlorine (water treatment) on site, you could hook up those detectors to the intrusion panel as well; but then you'd need a fairly complex panel to decide who to call for what sorts of alarms. --Wtshymanski (talk) 13:55, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You're talking about the sort of panel where it's required by code to have a fire alarm: apartment buildings, offices, large houses split into flats.
There is also a simpler situation, where a single house (where few countries require a fire alarm) has a burglar alarm panel installed. This simple panel, not required for the building to meet any code, often also include some fire protection capability. It's not separated, it may not meet local regs to be recognised as a "fire alarm" (where such an installation is mandatory). However it does put fire alarms into houses that don't otherwise have one, so it does have some value. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:32, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have a pointer to such a system? Would this be something like the "Radio Shack" or "do it yourself", home-center type of installation? In this part of the world new homes must have smoke and CO detectors, but they are free-standing and don't have a central panel or off-site alert capability. --Wtshymanski (talk) 15:17, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Optima Accenta G4, one of the most common domestic burglar alarm panels in the UK. The sort of thing a jobbing electrician or alarm installer fits when you phone up and ask for a burglar alarm.
Fire Zone
Zones 7 and 8 may be programmed as a 24 Hour Fire Zone operating all of the time except during engineer mode.
Andy Dingley (talk) 15:29, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Professionally installed, a long step up from the do-it-youself level, but not necessarily the systems for a school or hotel. I see ADT offers CO monitoring, too. (Ironically their local office is downstairs from me.) --Wtshymanski (talk) 18:21, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]