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Nothing more is known about this artist in English? 71.53.24.224 (talk) 05:34, 11 June 2010 (UTC)ADVENT[reply]

Ishida's Wiki page

I took and rewrote the chosen bits from Wikipedia JP and online articles. There are some parts that need rephrased or clarified, particularly in the Art section. My grammatical errors are everywhere and I would appreciate assistance in clearing them up. Thank you. 0zero9nine (talk) 00:51, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good work! I applaud you for your addition to this article! --SweetNightmares (awaken) 19:50, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Translation

Hi, I'm proofreading and the translation of this page section by section. I've noted some things which don't appear in the Japanese page and are unsourced. I'll mark them and remove them after one month if they don't get referenced. (One month sounds reasonable)

I'll also list them here. M miyama (talk) 15:30, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  1. Manner of death M miyama (talk) 15:49, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Dimensions of the painting: "Untitled 2001"M miyama (talk) 15:49, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  3. 2008 Christies auction M miyama (talk) 15:49, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Numbers don't add up for a 1993 high school graduation. He was born in 1973, which sets hum up to graduate in march 1992. Universities are also four years in Japan(two years for advanced diplomas) which makes it highly likely this year should bee 1992. M miyama (talk) 16:17, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Japanese translation makes no mention of him being pressured by his principal, nor mention of a possible career teaching or as a chemist. It does however talk about the pressure he faced from his parents to go to an academic highschool as opposed to an arts high school. M miyama (talk) 16:17, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Comment on parents and financial support in university is absent in the Japanese version M miyama (talk) 16:20, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  7. The place of death does not appear in Japanese version M miyama (talk) 16:43, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  8. News reports do not appear in Japanese version M miyama (talk) 16:43, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
How do I make citations? Are the URLs to online videos of his interviews and local news reports acceptable?
Dimensions of the painting - obtained from the 2008 auction in which the painting was listed as lot 511 http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/lot_details.aspx?intObjectID=5154624 This should also reference the 2008 auction mention.
His comments about his parents were taken from televised interviews. I can't offer a citation for this because I don't know how to, let alone whether it's allowed because all videos are in Japanese. It's well known, though, because of critics' speculations whether it influenced his art works. Even some reviewers acknowledged the awkward relationship between him and his parents in their reviews of Tetsuya Ishida: Posthumous Works (Kyuryudo Art Publishing Co.). I believe even Wikipedia JP acknowledges it. His father rejected Ishida's art works until some years later when he and the mother accepted it, even though they still didn't "get it". Having said that, I understand "It's well known" is not good enough as it appears speculative. I'll try to track down an English-language source.
The circumstances of his death. Again, I'll try to track down an English-language source as the only ones I could find are in Japanese and Chinese. Thank you. 0zero9nine (talk) 14:43, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Will continue with "Art" section at another time.

Thank you for cross-checking it. I have also added a request to expand references for this article. --SweetNightmares (awaken) 16:18, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I found a timeline on his official website, but it's in Japanese and we're supposed to use English sources (see WP:NONENG). However, it states that in 1991 he "become a senior in high school," so it appears you are correct. I have added this citation. --SweetNightmares (awaken) 16:47, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Could we perhaps find his obituary? I've run a machine translated web search using "石田徹也" "死亡記事," but all it turned up was Twitter and a bunch of blogs. --SweetNightmares (awaken) 16:59, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]