User talk:Cirt

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Other neat portal ideas for longer term

• Longer term ideas to think about from other portals:

1. Events section, like: "On this day" e.g., Biography, Religion, United States; "Selected anniversaries" e.g., War; "Calendar" at Holidays. Interesting idea of "Month selected anniversaries", at Oregon.
2. Model intro with some rotating images, after Portal:Oregon, Portal:Indiana, Portal:Iceland/Intro and Portal:Philosophy of science/Intro.
3. Revamp DYK sections w/ free-use images, model after Portal:Criminal justice and Portal:Oregon.
4. Portal palettes at User:RichardF/Palettes/Portals. Comparable color schemes can be developed from the various hue lists at User:RichardF/Palettes. Also see Portal:Box-header.
5. If there are a lot of categories, then categories section to 2 columns, like in Portal:Indiana.

   Also take some time to check out style/formatting at Portal:Indiana Cirt (talk)

Note to self - tools and templates

• MakeRef
• Reflinks
• Citation tool for Google Books
• Citation tool for DOIs
• Tools, part 1: References, external links, categories and size
• User:Edward/Find link

independent reliable secondary sources

• User:Citation bot/use

• {{findsources}}

Refs inside scroll box

<div class="reflist4" style="height: 200px; overflow: auto; padding: 3px; border: 1px solid #ababab">{{reflist|2}}</div>

Cite templates

<ref>{{cite book| last =  | first =  | authorlink =  | coauthors =  | title =  | publisher =  | year =  | location =  | page =  | url =  | doi =  | id =    | isbn = }}</ref>

<ref>{{cite news| last =  | first =  | coauthors =  | title =  | work =  | language =  | publisher =  | page =  | date =  | url =  | accessdate =  }}</ref>

<ref>{{cite journal|last =| first=| authorlink=| coauthors=|title=|journal=|volume=|issue=|page=|publisher=|location = | date = | url = | doi = | id = | accessdate = }}</ref>

<ref>{{cite web| last =  | first =  | authorlink =  | coauthors =  | title =  | work =  | publisher =  | date =  | url =  | format =  | doi =  | accessdate =  }}</ref>

Citation model

The Simpsons (season 3)

Body text in-cite

<ref name="REFNAME">[[#LASTNAME|LASTNAME]], p. PAGENUMBER</ref>

References section

(reference template from WP:CIT)

*<cite id=LASTNAME>REFERENCE</cite>

Different model

• Template:Citation
• Template:Harvnb
• Example: <ref name="REFNAME">{{Harvnb|LAST|YEAR|p=PAGENUMBER}}</ref>

See models at The General in His Labyrinth and Mario Vargas Llosa.

More info. Cirt (talk)

More at Wikipedia:Harvard citation template examples.

And Template talk:Harvard citation no brackets.

Cirt (talk)

US Supreme Court cases

Category:United States free speech case law - note to self, some articles to research and improve in quality ratings, for a longer term project. -- Cirt (talk) 02:09, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Related WikiProjects - reach out for collaborative editing and review

1. Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Supreme Court cases
2. Wikipedia:WikiProject Law
3. Wikipedia:WikiProject United States
4. Wikipedia:WikiProject Human rights
5. Wikipedia:WikiProject United States courts and judges
6. Wikipedia:WikiProject United States Government

-- Cirt (talk) 02:15, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Quality rated articles - use as models for improvement

1. Category:FA-Class U.S. Supreme Court articles
2. Category:GA-Class U.S. Supreme Court articles

-- Cirt (talk) 02:16, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Idea for new portal

1. Portal:Supreme Court of the United States.
2. Use GA and FA content.
3. Will help me gain familiarity with coverage of articles on the topic on Wikipedia.
4. Involve editors/WikiProjects in help with key sections of the portal. :)

-- Cirt (talk) 14:30, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

• Landmark_decisions_in_the_United_States#Freedom_of_Speech_and_of_the_Press. -- Cirt (talk) 20:48, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
• Time, Inc. v. Hill = project with FA writer = Wehwalt (talk · contribs). -- Cirt (talk) 15:19, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Wikisource: s:Time, Inc. v. Hill. -- Cirt (talk) 15:44, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
    • Follow-up ideas after that one: New York Times Co. v. United States and United States v. Nixon. — Cirt (talk) 16:07, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
• Nebraska Press Association v. Stuart = was going to be the project with Wehwalt (talk · contribs), but we'll do Time, Inc. v. Hill for the first one. -- Cirt (talk) 15:21, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
• Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music, Inc. = interesting case about parody. — Cirt (talk) 06:27, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
• {{Infobox SCOTUS case}}. — Cirt (talk) 21:52, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Statement on my Wikipedia editing

I've given my editing some significant thought, and I'm going to shift my focus for an extended period: both in (1) Articles chosen to edit, and (2) Activity level.

1. I'm going to reduce my activity level significantly, as I've done now for the past few days.
2. I'm going to focus primarily on getting prior articles I had already improved in quality - up to FA quality.
3. And I'm going to shift efforts in new areas of interest - to primarily editing and improving the quality of articles about U.S. Supreme Court cases (as mentioned above diff).
4. I'm going to try to seek out collaborative help from other respected editors, and WikiProjects, in all of the above endeavors.
5. I remain committed to not editing DYK again in the future.

Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 14:19, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Further comment

See diff. -- Cirt (talk) 08:05, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of Solar cable

I improved the article just the day before it was removed. And i believe I can improve it further. Can u please help me get the page how it was when it was deleted, so I can improve it in my userpage and resubmit it? Suraj T 06:26, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi Cirt, in my opinion your deletion was a little hasty. The article when deleted was very different from when I nominated it and I had withdrawn my delete just prior to your close of the discussion. There were no deletes from anybody else subsequent to the article improvements. At the very least the AfD should have been held open a little longer to give others a chance to comment on what was esssentially a different article. SpinningSpark 14:48, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

 Done, now at User:Surajt88/Solar cable. Cheers, — Cirt (talk) 14:50, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Spinningspark and cirt. I'll do my best to improve the article and restore it. Cheers Suraj T 16:00, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome! :) — Cirt (talk) 16:03, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

ItsLassieTime

Just thought I'd stop by to tell you that the ItsLassieTime situation has been ongoing in my life for over six months, and I've had enough of it. The continual socking is also ongoing. When I realized who 56*** was, I decided to take myself away from your review. I would however suggest that you try to find some publishing industry sources, something from Publisher's Weekly or the like, to nail down print-runs, promotions, and sales. Sometimes I'm successful finding such information at Accessmylibrary. For whatever this is worth. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 15:03, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I'll try that, thanks! — Cirt (talk) 15:03, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

New Essay: Wikipedia:BOMB that you may be interested in

I saw this come across and thought you might want to provide your thoughts, as I did, at WP:VPP. Thanks Hasteur (talk) 15:32, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

I agree with most of your comment, diff, regarding your characterization of this page. — Cirt (talk) 15:44, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Time v. Hill

Apparently the Nixon Library does have some stuff, but the finding aid is outdated. The newer one will hopefully be emailed to me soon. I've asked them to tentatively reserve me some time to look at the materials next week, fortunately I will be in the LA area. I'm sure there will be clippings if nothing else. Nixon saved everything when it came to documents.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:34, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

I've just gotten the finding aid by email. Nixon saved his research, memos to fellow lawyers ... very extensive. Of course, we can use only some of it, but I'll go through it at the Nixon Library on Monday.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:35, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Okay, great, I'll get going on creating a page with some secondary sources. — Cirt (talk) 18:54, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

I doubt there will be much by way of images that we can use but perhaps I can scan the cover of the brief, which was certainly not copyrighted.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:12, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

I've been spending some time this afternoon reading through some of Nixon's file in the Hill case. Most interesting indeed. The case eventually settled after the NY Ct of Appeals was reversed by the nine, and there's a memorandum about how much the plaintiffs got, which was not publicly announced, I scanned that for our use (around $60K each, which was probably the equivalent of a half mil today). Not much by the way of images, but as I said, the brief covers can be used. They were published pre 1978 without copyright notice.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:14, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

SARAH-LOUISE YOUNG

Sarah-Louise Young.....

Beside being so beautiful, Sarah's talent in ALL the fields of endevour is truly amazing. In the event of a trip to Los Angeles, I wish to interview her and the work in which she is now (or then) currently involved. My 20 years as a music biz exec (now retired) may be able to be of some help. Somehow I'd like her to get my IP addy.

R.L.??TILDES?? NOT ON MY COMP — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.49.52.91 (talk) 07:44, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Not able to help with this. — Cirt (talk) 18:54, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

US National Archives collaboration

United States National Archives WikiProject

Would you like to help improve Wikipedia's coverage of topics related to the National Archives and its incredible collection? This summer, the National Archives—which houses some of America's most important historical documents—is hosting me as its Wikipedian in Residence, and I have created WP:NARA to launch these efforts. There are all sorts of tasks available for any type of editor, whether you're a writer, organizer, gnome, coder, or image guru. The National Archives is making its resources available to Wikipedia, so help us forge this important relationship! Please sign up and introduce yourself. Dominic·t 15:22, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Might be interested if it intersects with topics of Supreme Court of the United States and/or Freedom of speech. — Cirt (talk) 18:54, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Heads up

Just a heads up, Mickeymouse14 and EleanorShone look like socks of Hobnob1996. --Gyrobo (talk) 22:13, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Best to report this to WP:SPI. — Cirt (talk) 18:54, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Semi-protect "Cody Rhodes"?

Hello Cirt, I saw you semi-protected Zack Ryder so could you consider semi-protecting Cody Rhodes as well? The article constantly gets edits changing the current theme song name despite no reliable sources publishing information on it. Also unofficial nicknames without reliable sources are constantly added to the article as well as its subsection titles. Would this be cause enough for semi-protection? Thank you. Starship.paint (talk) 03:02, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Best to report this to WP:RFPP. — Cirt (talk) 18:54, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Retrieval of deleted article Rhys O'Keeffe"

Cirt, could you please retrieve the text of the article Rhys O'Keeffe for me. It was deleted on notability after he was de-listed from the Carlton Football Club without playing a game; however, he was re-drafted and is now close to playing a senior game and gaining notability. I would like to prepare the article off-line, to be uploaded quickly when and if he plays. Thank you. Aspirex (talk) 08:48, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

I would be most willing to provide this within a subpage of your userspace, if you so request it. :) — Cirt (talk) 18:54, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure how to make subpages of things, but if you just put it into my profile page or talk page that will be fine. Thanks. Aspirex (talk) 01:21, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

 Done, now at User:Aspirex/Rhys O'Keeffe. — Cirt (talk) 23:46, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Cheers Aspirex (talk) 01:14, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

No worries, — Cirt (talk) 01:15, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi cirt

Hi i have recreated Mani Nouri article as i have asked you the persmission before. thank you in advance. --Irancinemairan (talk) 08:49, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Was previously deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mani Nouri, deleted again. Please do not recreate without consultation and/or WP:DRV. — Cirt (talk) 18:57, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

The article had some changes and it had no problem. I had to inform you before the recreation and i did that. I don't understand why you deleted the article instantly. If there is anything to do before recreation, please provide me with some information, consultation with who? and etc. and If it is possible please let the article be there for some time and then decide about it. Thanks. --Irancinemairan (talk) 19:45, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

The version didn't really appear better or significantly different. I would be most willing to userfy a copy for you, so you can work on it within a subpage of your userspace, if you so request it. :) — Cirt (talk) 23:49, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

The version is really different with more reliable sources. I also modified the career part. It would be really nice if you could give it a chance to be there and if there is anything that you think i should change or remove, i would be glad to take your advice. Because i really changed a lot for this version and i only took some of names that the last creator had put there. And what is userfy a copy and what can i do with that..? :) --Irancinemairan (talk) 05:32, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

I have provided it as a userfied copy, at User:Irancinemairan/Mani Nouri. — Cirt (talk) 04:40, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Cirt, i saw it. But can i put it on wikipedia directly in the future? Or what should i do with it, edit it and modify it and then put it on ? Thanks again. --Irancinemairan (talk) 08:35, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Ed Poor 2 has been amended by the Arbitration Committee

Please see here for further details. On behalf of the arbitration committee, Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 11:08, 25 June 2011 (UTC).

Thanks for the notice. — Cirt (talk) 23:46, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

RfC/U

Dear Cirt, further to our recent discussions, please see Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Cirt.

I am sorry this has become necessary. You are an immensely capable and talented editor, but I feel that your allegiance to various outside causes exceeds your allegiance to the project's mission, as defined by the Foundation; that this has compromised the project's standing; and that it has caused many editors who care very much about this project to question its integrity.

I hope this RfC/U and the discussions resulting from it will help us to move forward, will enable you to re-evaluate why you are here, and will help us get back on track to work towards the aims all of us signed up for: creating an online encyclopedia, in comradeship and mutual respect, committed to a neutral point of view, authored with respect for living persons, based on accurate distillation of high-quality sources, and devoted to the aim of giving every single person on the planet free access to the sum of all human knowledge. Best, --JN466 13:14, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

I commented on a fact here. Bearian (talk) 17:31, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Recent WP:AfD needs Salting

Hi Cirt. You recently deleted a page I'd listed at Afd - WP:Articles for deletion/Craig Strong. Anyway, I'm cleaning out my watchlist and, checking out what had happen to this one, noticed that this was the fourth time this article has been deleted and then recreated - see [[1]]. Added to which it was pure WP:Spam for a guy with one IMDb credit and a real-estate business to push, I thought salting might be in order. Up to you, anyway. Thanks, Plutonium27 (talk) 23:18, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Personally, with that slow rate of creation (particularly with no recreation after an AfD), and when the editor who created the last three versions, AngelicVirgo (talk · contribs), has been inactive for two years, I wouldn't waste good salt. But Cirt's views may differ. Bencherlite^Talk 00:07, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

I'll defer to the wise judgment of Bencherlite (talk · contribs) here. — Cirt (talk) 17:41, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

RfC outcome of Timeline of Asimov's Foundation Series

I contacted you a month ago about an AfD outcome since you were the closing administrator. Recently, the RfC I requested per your suggestion has expired after the 30 days given and I believe that there is a clear consensus to merge and redirect as I proposed. I would like to know what should I do in order to close the discussion and proceed to merge the content and redirect the article. As I am the one that proposed the merge in the first place, I feel that it might not be appropriate for me to close the discussion and I do not want to proceed until I'm sure that the process has been properly followed. So, should I proceed immediately with the merge and redirect or should I wait for some other process? Jfgslo (talk) 04:04, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

I suggest requesting an uninvolved admin closer at WP:Administrators' noticeboard, per WP:Merging#Proposing a merger, box IV. See User:Shooterwalker's request at WP:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive224#need neutral admin to close discussion. Flatscan (talk) 04:12, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

I agree with the suggestion by Flatscan (talk · contribs), good idea. — Cirt (talk) 17:42, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

A2Billing Reference

We note you have made reference to A2Billing at http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trixbox#A2Billing.

However, we note that the A2Billing link does not link anywhere. As the page maintainer, may we assist you to write some more information on A2Billing. Your help would be appreciated.

Joe Roper, A2Billing. Foxcote20 (talk) 12:21, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

The Hex Girls

What's up? I've recreated the The Hex Girls article that you deleted. I've added 5 sources to it. Hope that helps. Sharksaredangerous (talk) 17:37, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, doesn't really look significantly different/improved enough yet. I'd suggest working on it in userspace, I could provide you a copy of that if you want. — Cirt (talk) 17:39, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Really? Delete voters said things like "everything lacks verifiability with no references" so I would think adding 5 reliable sources like mainstream newspapers would be a significant improvement over zero references. You don't think so? Sharksaredangerous (talk) 17:43, 28 June 2011 (UTC)