Talk:Victoria Kamāmalu

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This article really need some. This article is getting to be very long and without pictures it would really hard for readers to interested. Wikipedia Commons is not one of my many skills. I do not know how to created or upload an image but there are plenty out there of Princess Victoria Kamamalu. 63.3.21.2 (talk) 19:39, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Styling of Kaahumanu II, III & IV

Only the "State of Hawaii" Dept. of Accounting & General Services archives mentions the styling of Kaahumanu II, III, & IV, but is it really necessary to put in the Wiki titles these names? These confuse many people who aren't aware of the styling to which even in those days it wasn't commonly known. Official documents show how Kekauluohi signed her name as such, not Kaahumanu III, and according to the Laws of His Majesty Kamehameha III., King of the Hawaiian Islands, Passed by the Nobles and Representatives at their session, 1853 you can clearly see how Victoria Kamamalu signed her name 2 different ways but none of which as styled.

Fornander, I'i, Kamakau and other contemporary writers have all listed these alii by the names that the common people know them by. I don't mind the styled name indicated but using it as the top of the page for Wikipedia, especially since it wasn't like that before, is a bad idea. I mean, look at Elizabeth_II, it seems the proper styling isn't used. But someone decided to do it for the alii? This is very different compared to how we do in our Hawaiian culture.

Was this already voted on? I mean, are we to really leave it up to these select few wiki editors to decide to continue misleading people on actual facts of our culture? I'm not saying that the style is wrong, it's obvious that they were styled but I don't think it should be listed as the main title at all. Even if you look through what the State Archives had, they never, ever listed their title by the styled names for a very good reason.--Mamoahina (talk) 18:43, 9 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]